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#601 DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley

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Posted 11 November 2016 - 05:13 PM

Yup I gave up hope too.

If PGI is good at one thing they excel at burning bridges.

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Posted 11 November 2016 - 06:17 PM

You guys, why so salty. She will be here I bet before 2017 is done.

#603 DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley

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Posted 11 November 2016 - 06:24 PM

View PostCK16, on 11 November 2016 - 06:17 PM, said:

You guys, why so salty. She will be here I bet before 2017 is done.


Dude... I've waited 3 years lol saying oh for sure 2017 sounds like... Soon™, 90 Days™, On the cusp™, Just a FEW mechs to get through™ (12 mechs since that statement, guess a few in Canada = 12), Don't Worry it's coming™, yup I've heard them all.
#2013
#2014
#2015
#2016...
For sure it's coming in #2017

Yup it will be talked about, it will be promised, but it's NEVER coming.

Edited by DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley, 11 November 2016 - 06:25 PM.


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Posted 11 November 2016 - 06:25 PM

View PostCK16, on 11 November 2016 - 06:17 PM, said:

You guys, why so salty. She will be here I bet before 2017 is done.

More importantly, if it does come, all it will be fore is Gauss. With UAC nerfs no other clan ballistic any good.

Edited by Snowbluff, 11 November 2016 - 06:26 PM.


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Posted 11 November 2016 - 06:51 PM

View PostDiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley, on 11 November 2016 - 06:24 PM, said:

Dude... I've waited 3 years lol saying oh for sure 2017 sounds like... Soon™, 90 Days™, On the cusp™, Just a FEW mechs to get through™ (12 mechs since that statement, guess a few in Canada = 12), Don't Worry it's coming™, yup I've heard them all.
#2013
#2014
#2015
#2016...
For sure it's coming in #2017

Yup it will be talked about, it will be promised, but it's NEVER coming.



I have been waiting that long as well...Yet you are not seeing me going all gloom and such. Russ gave me 2017, that is what a lot of ppl think mid 2017ish is when a lot of us predict it. Can you stop the salt? I get it, you want it sooner rather then later, hell so do I. But you cant demand things like this Russ has a plan...like most companies. He has his plan and I assume its not on there just yet since they plan only 5 months out for mechs. HELL maybe at mechcon we will get some big news and hints to when we might get it.

#606 DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley

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Posted 11 November 2016 - 06:57 PM

View PostCK16, on 11 November 2016 - 06:51 PM, said:



I have been waiting that long as well...Yet you are not seeing me going all gloom and such. Russ gave me 2017, that is what a lot of ppl think mid 2017ish is when a lot of us predict it. Can you stop the salt? I get it, you want it sooner rather then later, hell so do I. But you cant demand things like this Russ has a plan...like most companies. He has his plan and I assume its not on there just yet since they plan only 5 months out for mechs. HELL maybe at mechcon we will get some big news and hints to when we might get it.

I was told back in dec 2015 it would be here in less than a year. There is no reason for it not be in the game. Mechs are just skins, speed caps, tonnage limits, hard points and the location of said hardpoints.



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Posted 11 November 2016 - 07:00 PM

View PostCK16, on 11 November 2016 - 06:51 PM, said:

Russ has a plan


And we've been waiting, what, half a year or more to figure out what it is? I'd love to hear it, but... #MechCon.


Oh wait, nevermind, #2017

#608 DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley

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Posted 11 November 2016 - 07:01 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 11 November 2016 - 07:00 PM, said:


And we've been waiting, what, half a year or more to figure out what it is? I'd love to hear it, but... #MechCon.


Oh wait, nevermind, #2017

365 Days™ is the new 90 Days™

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Posted 11 November 2016 - 07:03 PM

View PostDiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley, on 11 November 2016 - 07:01 PM, said:

365 Days™ is the new 90 Days™


Actually, it's still pretty close to 90 Days™, since they said "early" 2017. Maybe 120 Days™ should be in order?

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Posted 11 November 2016 - 07:17 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 11 November 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:


Actually, it's still pretty close to 90 Days™, since they said "early" 2017. Maybe 120 Days™ should be in order?

Dec we had the steam launch party... no big features since then that will make it 365 days soon™

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 10:57 AM

So with recent Kodiak and UAC nerfs this does bring up some concerns. We will see further how PGI plans to quirk larger engined assaults here with the MAD IIC here. We obviously don't want over quirked to hell, but we don't want something that takes a nerf bat to the knee cap either later on.

How could the Mk II be balanced to not be Uber tier 0 assault. Well thinking on it, give it torso range of the Cauldron born. Arms obviously will not have lower actuators (I think this is pointed out in all sources for the TT.) Do we dare ask for a quad Ballistic varriant? Granted it would most likely be all arm mounted and not torso. Think we will get agility quirks or any bonus armor/structure? Maybe we get some Jump Jet quirks for once?

Thing will need some balancing, cause well look at how the KDK was, and we will see how mean a fast CLAN assault is with the MAD IIC as well. So, perfer not to over nerf anything but be actually balanced and viable for most game plays.

P.S. assume meta try hards will be bringing Gauss and PPC builds.

#612 DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 11:01 AM

Who cares I doubt I'll be around in 2017...

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 11:06 AM

View PostDiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley, on 15 November 2016 - 11:01 AM, said:

Who cares I doubt I'll be around in 2017...


No offense but why does everything about the MK II coming later only mater to you when you speak? You are not the sole person wanting this mech, you are probably not the only one that would throw their whole life savings at PGI to get it this instant. Why is it always, about you and because your pissed PGI has to bend just cause of you?

I am sorry, I am a bit frustrated seeing you at EVERYTHING getting pissy about it. Grow up accept it's going to be a bit longer and just wait it out a bit. Meaning don't throw a fit at every mention about it and how you won't be here, no offense like thay matters to PGI or most people that play?

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 11:11 AM

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#615 DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 11:18 AM

View PostCK16, on 15 November 2016 - 11:06 AM, said:


No offense but why does everything about the MK II coming later only mater to you when you speak? You are not the sole person wanting this mech, you are probably not the only one that would throw their whole life savings at PGI to get it this instant. Why is it always, about you and because your pissed PGI has to bend just cause of you?

I am sorry, I am a bit frustrated seeing you at EVERYTHING getting pissy about it. Grow up accept it's going to be a bit longer and just wait it out a bit. Meaning don't throw a fit at every mention about it and how you won't be here, no offense like thay matters to PGI or most people that play?

Because you think it's coming lol I've asked for 3 years dude and told AFTER a few this year. 10 mechs later what makes you think I'm going to believe anyone at this point.

You can call me a kid all you want but it won't change how I act. Because like you said my opinion don't mater and neither has yours.



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Posted 15 November 2016 - 11:20 AM

View PostCK16, on 15 November 2016 - 10:57 AM, said:

So with recent Kodiak and UAC nerfs this does bring up some concerns. We will see further how PGI plans to quirk larger engined assaults here with the MAD IIC here. We obviously don't want over quirked to hell, but we don't want something that takes a nerf bat to the knee cap either later on.

How could the Mk II be balanced to not be Uber tier 0 assault. Well thinking on it, give it torso range of the Cauldron born. Arms obviously will not have lower actuators (I think this is pointed out in all sources for the TT.) Do we dare ask for a quad Ballistic varriant? Granted it would most likely be all arm mounted and not torso. Think we will get agility quirks or any bonus armor/structure? Maybe we get some Jump Jet quirks for once?

Thing will need some balancing, cause well look at how the KDK was, and we will see how mean a fast CLAN assault is with the MAD IIC as well. So, perfer not to over nerf anything but be actually balanced and viable for most game plays.

P.S. assume meta try hards will be bringing Gauss and PPC builds.



If they do a quad ballistic version of it, then two should be arm mounts, and the other two should be under the cockpit on the ST's or in the arms as no matter how you do it, it could still mount quad UAC/10's (something the Dire Wolf did long before the Kodiak 3... and no-one seemed to mind then, or notice it for the most part...). To get an idea of what I mean for ST positioning, look at the position for a UAC on the Timber Wolf Prime RT.

As for JJ's on it, it will likely be limted to 3 or 4, four would make the most amount of sense as that would be the max it could take with the base engine in TT, not that JJ's are worth much in MWO...

I also think (if they retain the 90t on it) most people will de-tune the engine to a 350 to gain an extra 1.5t of pod space, for a very minor speed hit, around 2kp/h after speed tweak, as you would need to spend an additional 3t of pod space to move up to a 375 to mount an additional DHS in the engine.

Considering the shape of the mech, I'm not sure it will have fantastic hit boxes combined with being less agile than the similarly shaped Timber Wolf, we would likely see this mech given agility quirks to make up for it's potential hit box problems.

View PostCK16, on 15 November 2016 - 11:06 AM, said:

No offense but why does everything about the MK II coming later only mater to you when you speak? You are not the sole person wanting this mech, you are probably not the only one that would throw their whole life savings at PGI to get it this instant. Why is it always, about you and because your pissed PGI has to bend just cause of you?

I am sorry, I am a bit frustrated seeing you at EVERYTHING getting pissy about it. Grow up accept it's going to be a bit longer and just wait it out a bit. Meaning don't throw a fit at every mention about it and how you won't be here, no offense like thay matters to PGI or most people that play?



I've been asking that about "He who should not be named" and his insane campaign crusade for this very mech, for a very long time.... It's not like you guys will have to wait 20 year give or take, like Unseen fans had too....

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 12:41 PM

starting to think diabeetusoverlord is actually Imperius in drag. Dunno but thats my hunch.

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 01:09 PM

View PostLastKhan, on 15 November 2016 - 12:41 PM, said:

starting to think diabeetusoverlord is actually Imperius in drag. Dunno but thats my hunch.

Where have you been?

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 01:20 PM

View PostDiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley, on 15 November 2016 - 01:09 PM, said:

Where have you been?


Not here everyday unlike yourself honestly..

Edited by LastKhan, 15 November 2016 - 01:20 PM.


#620 DiabetesOverlord Wilford Brimley

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 01:37 PM

View PostLastKhan, on 15 November 2016 - 01:20 PM, said:


Not here everyday unlike yourself honestly..

Got me there. Well I'm one of the old guard that's soon™ To retire on his private island talking to his Wilson ball named the Mad Cat MK II ;)

We shall see in December after MechCon.

I already got it confirmed it's not coming though so I don't know what the point of talking about it will change. No point of bringing it up until after feb of next year where CK16 get to be lead on for a year about the unicorns release.

I am however enjoying GTA 5 free Tron DLC, Titanfall 2 and Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare.

I just play the forums because they are more interesting than the game itself.





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