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#21 627

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 11:50 PM

do these pylons on the back have a purpose? are those movable bay doors for something?

#22 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 11:55 PM

View Post627, on 26 February 2016 - 11:50 PM, said:

do these pylons on the back have a purpose? are those movable bay doors for something?

I think they're part of the Jump jets

#23 Otto Cannon

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 12:09 AM

Well I hope the Phawk fans like it, but it does nothing for me at all.

#24 Sigilum Sanctum

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 12:11 AM

View PostRorvik, on 26 February 2016 - 10:49 PM, said:

...What's with the high heels? Posted Image


Most likely a nod to the Veritech/Valkyrie fighters the Phoenix Hawk was based on. Their "feet" were their thruster nozzles folded open:

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#25 Vashramire

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 12:25 AM

I just hope the backpack doesn't make the hitboxes god awful. Also pretty big legs. Not something you want on a 45 tonner. Hope it's better than the Vindicator.

#26 Impyrium

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 12:25 AM

Whoop, looks gorgeous! I really love the nods to the original design. I'm glad Alex didn't fall into the trap of creating a Generic Western Mecha Redesign #65 and has instead added some character. The reality is that the original Phoenix Hawk was quite humanoid and rounded, and variety is the spice of BattleTech IMO.

I don't think the 'pistol' is quite as much as a pistol as what the image makes it look like, but detachable weapons make a lot of sense for a 'mech if you think about it. The BattleMaster was supposed to be able to drop its PPC.

#27 Funkin Disher

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 01:54 AM

Aww yeah. Looking good!

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 02:08 AM

View PostSigilum Sanctum, on 27 February 2016 - 12:11 AM, said:


Most likely a nod to the Veritech/Valkyrie fighters the Phoenix Hawk was based on. Their "feet" were their thruster nozzles folded open:

Posted Image



Mech designs by Shoji Kawamori has a tendency to use this leg and feet design.

#29 Anjian

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 02:11 AM

I am pretty okay with the new PH design. Totally looks like the Macross Valkryie like nothing at all. This is good for the legal standpoint.

The design needs to be consistent with the other mechs in MWO to create a common design theme or signature. So no surprise with the Enforcer like head.

#30 martian

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 02:14 AM

View PostAnjian, on 27 February 2016 - 02:11 AM, said:

So no surprise with the Enforcer like head.

That Pixie's head reminds me the MWO Black Knight's head.

#31 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 02:15 AM

View PostAnjian, on 27 February 2016 - 02:11 AM, said:

The design needs to be consistent with the other mechs in MWO to create a common design theme or signature. So no surprise with the Enforcer like head.

Well, the head doesn't look THAT different from the TRO artwork. Still rounded, with a visor like cockpit window and antennae on the sides.
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#32 TexAce

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 02:31 AM

I just can't take a mech with a pistol serious. I will crack up every time I see one of them on the field.

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 02:39 AM

does it have a DRAGOON system like all gundams have?

http://gundam.wikia..../DRAGOON_system

#34 Vashramire

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 02:45 AM

A plus on the gun arm is it's a hardpoint that is guaranteed higher than the forearm. At least for 1 hardpoint. Higher hardpoints are always welcome. Unless the artwork is a lie like the Black Knights.

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 02:49 AM

View PostVashramire, on 27 February 2016 - 02:45 AM, said:

A plus on the gun arm is it's a hardpoint that is guaranteed higher than the forearm. At least for 1 hardpoint. Higher hardpoints are always welcome. Unless the artwork is a lie like the Black Knights.


That's a very good point.

#36 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 02:50 AM

View PostTexAce, on 27 February 2016 - 02:31 AM, said:

I just can't take a mech with a pistol serious. I will crack up every time I see one of them on the field.

So, you already find Wolverine, Griffin and Battlemaster hilarious?
Because they have basically the same design of arm-mounted weapon.

#37 TexAce

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 03:00 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 27 February 2016 - 02:50 AM, said:

So, you already find Wolverine, Griffin and Battlemaster hilarious?
Because they have basically the same design of arm-mounted weapon.


None of them have such distinctive pistols in mwo. I don't know why I even bother telling you that.

Edited by TexAce, 27 February 2016 - 03:02 AM.


#38 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 03:06 AM

View PostTexAce, on 27 February 2016 - 03:00 AM, said:

None of them have such distinctive pistols in mwo. I don't know why I even bother telling you that.

The whole hand-held part is basically the same on all of those mechs.
The only difference is that Phoenix Hawk's is top-mounted as opposed to side mounted, which makes it actually better, by the notion of it being a higher mount.

But whatever, to each his own. I for one, really like the way it looks (and wish my Wolverine had his AC this way too)

Edited by Juodas Varnas, 27 February 2016 - 03:06 AM.


#39 Tristan Winter

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 03:07 AM

View PostRorvik, on 26 February 2016 - 10:49 PM, said:

...What's with the high heels? Posted Image

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Edited by Tristan Winter, 27 February 2016 - 03:09 AM.


#40 TELEFORCE

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 04:49 AM

It reminds me more of the Standing Tank "Falcon" from the old Super Nintendo "BattleClash" game than an old veritech fighter, but it's definitely a Phoenix Hawk! The concept art looks cool Posted Image





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