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[Queek Head Taker]

Wow! I look the Phoenix Hawk and I don't like it at all! I reminds of Macross or Robotech.... not mechwarrior... anyone else share this feeling?

[Dr Mlem]

Nope, I find its a cool addition and amazing to see mech's represented in Mechwarrior that have honestly never been seen, beyond the Battletech boardgame.

Plus it drives Harmony Gold up the walls. That's the biggest draw.

[Weaselball]

[Lukoi Banacek]

Queek Head Taker, on 02 March 2016 - 04:47 PM, said:

Wow! I look the Phoenix Hawk and I don't like it at all! I reminds of Macross or Robotech.... not mechwarrior... anyone else share this feeling?

Nope. I mean...no more than a Marauder does, or a Warhammer.

[Metus regem]

Lukoi Banacek, on 02 March 2016 - 04:50 PM, said:

Nope. I mean...no more than a Marauder does, or a Warhammer.

Or Archer will, or the Riflemen does....

Queek Head Taker, on 02 March 2016 - 04:47 PM, said:

Wow! I look the Phoenix Hawk and I don't like it at all! I reminds of Macross or Robotech.... not mechwarrior... anyone else share this feeling?

You must be either trolling, or started after the whole unseen issue.... As Macross mechs were some of the most popular mechs in TRO 3025, I think that was the first TRO....

[Sir Roland MXIII]

An entertaining hypocrisy, since apparently having 6 'mechs "look like they're from Crusher Joe and Dougram instead of Mechwarrior" is totally fine.

[Wintersdark]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 02 March 2016 - 05:06 PM, said:

An entertaining hypocrisy, since apparently having 6 'mechs "look like they're from Crusher Joe and Dougram instead of Mechwarrior" is totally fine.

I honestly think he's oblivious to how ridiculous what he just said was.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

Wintersdark, on 02 March 2016 - 05:08 PM, said:

I honestly think he's oblivious to how ridiculous what he just said was.

You must not have run into as much as I have, this is par for the course for him. Only reason I even looked at this thread was to see what he said, and it lived down to my expectations. <grin>

[Afuldan McKronik]

+1 its nostalgia.
-1 for updated look.
-1 when everyone realizes the 45 tonners lack firepower
+1 for omgbbq engine cap

Not really interested unless they release what it will actually look like vs Alex's concept art.

[Elkfire]

I'm pretty sure the OP is trolling, but to be fair, the Phoenix Hawk is the most anime-esque of the robotech/macross/etc mechs we've gotten so far, due in no small part to it actually holding a weapon. I can see how people unfamiliar with the origins of many recently-released mech designs might be confused.

[Afuldan McKronik]

Pretty much powercreep+nostalgia going to make this THE IS 45 ton to have

[Bishop Steiner]

Afuldan McKronik, on 02 March 2016 - 06:29 PM, said:

Pretty much powercreep+nostalgia going to make this THE IS 45 ton to have

Cuz low mounted weapons are always desirable....

[Nyte Kitsune]

Queek Head Taker, on 02 March 2016 - 04:47 PM, said:

Wow! I look the Phoenix Hawk and I don't like it at all! I reminds of Macross or Robotech.... not mechwarrior... anyone else share this feeling?

Nope, Most of us played CBT and/or read the novels. Yes, it looks like something out of Robotech/Macross... because that's where FASA.. Um... Borrowed the idea from. Its one of the more iconic IS mechs from books and earlier games like Crescent Hawks Inception/Revenge (Pretty sure Jason Youngblood used a Phoenix Hawk in second game, Chameleon in the first-Commodore 64/Amiga).

I'm quite satisfied with the new look.. Easily recognizable as a Phoenix Hawk with PGI's twist, which have yet to disappoint me, Though I do miss the gigantic arm cannon the Thunderbolt originally had on its right arm to represent the Lord's Light Large Laser, but I suppose PGI removed it to minimize people singling it out in combat.

[Milocinia]

Not sure where the OP realises the PHX originally came from...

Edited by Milocinia, 02 March 2016 - 06:59 PM.

[Biclor Moban]

The fact he is complaining about THIS is seems like, a cry for help? I checked his posts he has said nothing about the Kodiak being a Hunchback IIC in oversize Teddy-bear armor....I mean low hanging fruit and all.

[S 0 L E N Y A]

Metus regem, on 02 March 2016 - 05:03 PM, said:

Or Archer will, or the Riflemen does....



You must be either trolling, or started after the whole unseen issue.... As Macross mechs were some of the most popular mechs in TRO 3025, I think that was the first TRO....

Correct. Matter of fact the vast majority of early mech designs were not created by Fasa.
With the lion's share of those coming from Macross (aka Robotech), and a few other animes as well.

Point and case, the 2nd edition box set of Battletech pictured 8 different mechs. Of the 8, all of them came from anime designs "licensed" by FASA. Of the 8, only one of them was NOT from Macross (the Locust).

[Wintersdark]

Afuldan McKronik, on 02 March 2016 - 06:29 PM, said:

Pretty much powercreep+nostalgia going to make this THE IS 45 ton to have

Nostalgia, sure, for those of us who suffer from that. That's totally my motivation.

But powercreep? Really? Have you looked at it's hardpoints/locations? The only reason it has any place at all in the try-hard medium lineup is ECM and/or MASC.

But that MASC version? Jebus. Just how fast is it going to go? around 160 kph before MASC??

Even so, that's sporting 3E 2B, with 5.5t payload space. That's just not an intimidating loadout.

[Revis Volek]

Bishop Steiner, on 02 March 2016 - 06:39 PM, said:

Cuz low mounted weapons are always desirable....

as well as being 10 tons lighter then OTHER mechs that call themselves mediums.

aside from potentially having better hit boxes then the bj i dont think its gonna be better.

Edited by Revis Volek, 02 March 2016 - 08:52 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Revis Volek, on 02 March 2016 - 08:50 PM, said:

as well as being 10 tons lighter then OTHER mechs that call themselves mediums.

aside from potentially having better hit boxes then the bj i dont think its gonna be better.

Speed will help, but it's going to be a lot more situational and pilot specific. Probably few Upper Tier uses, but should be a fun chassis for guys like me.

[SkaerKrow]

Derp topic aside, I actually really like the PHX redesign. It looks just anime enough, without breaking classic Battletech's more "realistic" giant robot style.