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[DjPush]

Seriously! WTF? Last 3 nights I have played all I see are Wub Knights that core/kill me in one alpha. Turn the corner, Black Knight cores my CT before I even get a shot off. Died 3 matches in row to a Black Knight with less than 100 damage to my score. Hung my head in shame, kicked the dogs chew toy across the room and logged off.

My new MWO tactic... DON'T LOOK AT IT!

[FupDup]

DON'T EVEN BLINK

[sycocys]

Well that's what happens when PGI releases a heavy mech with 8-9 energy hardpoints. 3 LPL and the rest MPL, there's just no reason to do anything different - well other than a huge engine and all MPL/DHS that is.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

58 (3 LPL/5 ML) point alpha in less than a second. It is pretty terrifying, but it is heat capped easily and sort of limited in range.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 03 March 2016 - 03:22 PM.

[Phra]

And people still moan about the Timberwolf.

The king is dead, long live the king!

[nehebkau]

sycocys, on 03 March 2016 - 03:19 PM, said:

Well that's what happens when PGI releases a heavy mech with 8-9 energy hardpoints. 3 LPL and the rest MPL, there's just no reason to do anything different - well other than a huge engine and all MPL/DHS that is.

Ya PGI wants variety in the game and they launch all energy-hardpoint mechs ... that'll do it.

[Celtic Warrior]

My BK 7 med pulse laser boat is my favorite mech right now.

Edited by Celtic Warrior, 03 March 2016 - 03:24 PM.

[Ace Selin]

DjPush, on 03 March 2016 - 03:07 PM, said:

Seriously! WTF? Last 3 nights I have played all I see are Wub Knights that core/kill me in one alpha. Turn the corner, Black Knight cores my CT before I even get a shot off. Died 3 matches in row to a Black Knight with less than 100 damage to my score. Hung my head in shame, kicked the dogs chew toy across the room and logged off.

My new MWO tactic... DON'T LOOK AT IT!

Keep torso twisting, that BK gets heat capped really quick, get in there and kill it before it can cool down and its dead.

Phra, on 03 March 2016 - 03:22 PM, said:

And people still moan about the Timberwolf.

The king is dead, long live the king!

Maybe because the 5smpls 4x SRM6 Timber or 4smpls 4x SRM6 & flamer Timber can kill the OPs BK one on one. The new Timber meta is here. Long live the old king still.

Edited by Ace Selin, 03 March 2016 - 03:28 PM.

[Aetes Nakatomi]

Had a good fight yesterday in my wub Nova vs a wub Black Knight. Both of us were afraid to look at each other!

[Sigilum Sanctum]

The Black Knight, and to a lesser extent the Grasshopper, are still quite strong despite the IS laser range nerf.

You should engage them with caution.

[Jae Hyun Nakamura]

nehebkau, on 03 March 2016 - 03:23 PM, said:

Ya PGI wants variety in the game and they launch all energy-hardpoint mechs ... that'll do it.

Lasers always have been 'the standard' weapon in Battletech. Cheap, easy to maintain and not depending on ammo.

[Phra]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 03 March 2016 - 03:22 PM, said:

58 (3 LPL/5 ML) point alpha in less than a second. It is pretty terrifying, but it is heat capped easily and sort of limited in range.

You see, the problem is, you can't stop it from closing in on you.

350/360XL depending on whether it has 5 or 3MLs. A gigantic shield arm and 50% structure quirks. Also if you settle for 3MLs, it has well over 40% heateff, capable of putting out 150+ dmg in a matter of seconds before shutting down. Quite a stretch from "easy to overheat" in my book. People are slowly finding out what I've been preaching for the past month or so.

This. Thing. Is. Nuts.

Enjoy it while it lasts, it will get the BJ treatment.

Edited by Phra, 03 March 2016 - 03:31 PM.

[RestosIII]

DjPush, on 03 March 2016 - 03:07 PM, said:

My new MWO tactic... DON'T LOOK AT IT!

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Phra, on 03 March 2016 - 03:28 PM, said:

You see, the problem is, you can't stop it from closing in on you.

350/360XL depending on whether it has 5 or 3MLs. A gigantic shield arm and 50% structure quirks. Also if you settle for 3MLs, it has well over 40% heateff, capable of putting out 150+ dmg in a matter of seconds before shutting down.

If you settle for only 3 MLs, you aren't capitalizing on opportunities as much, at that point you are better off with a different mech. The whole reason to run the BK with 3 LPL/5 ML is the same reason people used to run the Meta Whale, to punish players mistakes with a big alpha straight to one component. As for it pushing, well, it is good at pushing that is for sure, but it isn't good at brawling or trading at range. That said the dominant range in PUGs and even in comp play seems to revolve around mid range currently, outside of a select few maps.

[Monkey Lover]

Lpl needs a nerf go bring the dph down closer to the other lasers.

[Nostromodamus]

I may or may not have been responsible for DJ's suffering, I apologise.

I wuv my wub!

[FupDup]

Monkey Lover, on 03 March 2016 - 03:39 PM, said:

Lpl needs a nerf go bring the dph down closer to the other lasers.

No.

At most you can make a case for reducing the laser quirks on some mechs, but when it comes to weakening the base weapon itself then we're gonna have a bad time.

[Mcgral18]

FupDup, on 03 March 2016 - 03:43 PM, said:

No.

At most you can make a case for reducing the laser quirks on some mechs, but when it comes to weakening the base weapon itself then we're gonna have a bad time.

Without also touching the cLPL, at any rate.


They're both among the best lasers in the game, which is fine. Some quirks can make them excessive...but those were also touched down last pass.

[Phra]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 03 March 2016 - 03:35 PM, said:

If you settle for only 3 MLs, you aren't capitalizing on opportunities as much, at that point you are better off with a different mech. The whole reason to run the BK with 3 LPL/5 ML is the same reason people used to run the Meta Whale, to punish players mistakes with a big alpha straight to one component. As for it pushing, well, it is good at pushing that is for sure, but it isn't good at brawling or trading at range. That said the dominant range in PUGs and even in comp play seems to revolve around mid range currently, outside of a select few maps.

Tried both, prefer the 3MLs with the 360XL. You wanna lose your RA first anyhow, might as well go with +1 DHS and the higher engine.

[Macster16]

I prefer my G'Hoppa over my BlekKnight. Better hardpoint placement.