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[Lizardman from Hollywood]

Was really hoping it was going to be the supernova or the nightstar. Oh well another clan mech I will pass on.

[Cox Devalis]

2fast2useless

[Steel Raven]

Nightshade24, on 07 July 2016 - 09:45 PM, said:

Isn't the pouncer a medium 'Mech though?

PGI said we are getting 1 Medium clan 'Mech (atm Viper), 1 Heavy 'Mech (atm Night Gyr), 1 Medium (atm Kingfisher)... that left 1 heavy mech left, has to be an omnimech as well... Linebacker was the only choice left more or less.

Kingfisher is a Assault mech, I think your talking about the Huntsman. Any way, I didn't mean that I thought we would see the Pouncer as the next mech, I simply though we would see the Pouncer before anyone would consider the Linebacker.

I have one friend thats waiting to the Piranha light mech though I'm sure he only wants to see if it crashes the game (12X machine guns moving at 150+ KPH)

[Felicitatem Parco]

I really see only a couple uses... 6 SRM packs or a bunch of energy.

Would the Mad Dog be a better choice for missiles? The Linebacker would have 66% of the missiles arm-mounted (low, but agile).

[Myj]

Nightshade24, on 08 July 2016 - 03:49 AM, said:

Further elaborate after the first sentence?

Pretty sure he was just pointing out that people who buy this mech are stupid, just like people who put LRM's on an Atlas are stupid. Then he tried to make the point that if you keep buying these bad mechs then PGI will never learn to stop releasing them. Then he said people are bad at MWO and won't ever be able to be good. I think. Lol!

[Felicitatem Parco]

I'd be closer to buying it if it had a 380 or a 375... it would have more valuable pod space... 16.5 tons on a 65 ton Mech isn't much other than for laser spam.

[Kael Posavatz]

I am finding it very difficult to be excited about this mech. I love most of the mech art PGI has put out, and there are very few 3d models that I think don't do the originals justice (or are just flat-out better).

But this one...

I realize that shoulder-hip thing the Linebacker has wasn't going to happen. That just like the Nova it was going to end up on top of a turntable. But the Linebacker was always supposed to be this squat little thing almost as broad as it was tall. As depicted it is too tall, it isn't wide enough, and the cockpit looks like someone grabbed the front end of nearly any MISC-manufactured vessel from Star Citizen.

On the other hand, that 'special variant' scheme is flat-out amazing. I want it for my other mechs.

[BMKA]

Looks nice

How about new weapons ?

[Cox Devalis]

Heavy Ice Ferret.

[Dee Eight]

AnimeFreak40K, on 08 July 2016 - 01:54 AM, said:

They used the line-art, for one thing... all but ripped from art books (which were available at the time). Palladium Books did it too, but they also had full licensing to do so from Harmony Gold for their Robotech RPG.

Look, I'm not going to get into this debate... especially not here. I knew these mechs from Robotech, because that is what I knew of first and that is how I refer to them.

No...they didn't... look the real world timeline doesn't match up.

FASA went to the original japanese sources for the artwork for their game. They did NOT take anything from Harmony's Robotech, or Paladium's Robotech RPG, which btw didn't exist in 1984 when Battletech was created. Macross itself didn't debut on television until 1982. Robotech the tv series didn't debut until 1985, and Paladium's RPG adaptation was in 1986.

Harmony never had a valid license to the artwork for that matter, since they only purchased the international broadcast rights
to the original japanese shows, which they then edited together and changed the dialogue of to fit the new overall story arc of the Robotech universe to broadcast for american TV. This has been confirmed by Japanese court rulings. That they went around claiming they owned the rights and suing other companies didn't magically mean they were correct or telling the truth, as was embarassingly pointed out to them in court when Big West & Studio Nue asserted their rights as the sole owner of character and mecha designs for the original macross series FOURTEEN years ago.

[AnimeFreak40K]

What part of "Look, I'm not going to get into this debate... especially not here...." did you not understand?

[Felicitatem Parco]

AnimeFreak40K, on 08 July 2016 - 12:33 PM, said:

What part of "Look, I'm not going to get into this debate... especially not here...." did you not understand?

The part that made it sound like you were trying to sound correct...

[Aramuside]

AnimeFreak40K, on 08 July 2016 - 12:33 PM, said:

What part of "Look, I'm not going to get into this debate... especially not here...." did you not understand?

So why post about it...wait .... because you wanted to say something and then not respond to counters...

[Arkhangel]

Sephrus Shanadar, on 08 July 2016 - 08:28 AM, said:

Was really hoping it was going to be the supernova or the nightstar. Oh well another clan mech I will pass on.

the Nightstar is an IS mech, just so you know, in the "Marauder" family

Edited by Arkhangel, 08 July 2016 - 01:40 PM.

[Dee Eight]

The other stupidity that is Robotech and people with some weird devotion to it, is the ginormous plot hole discrepency between Robotech the tv series and the RPG.. and the original source material. ya know...the whole PROTOCULTURE as an energy source crap... how exactly if the people of earth had no idea what it was, or that the matrix was hidden inside the SDF-1, did they build a vast space fleet and all these mecha, without any understanding of the fuel source supposedly used in them, or access to the means to make more of the engines/generators that accepts this wonder substance.

[Uncle Totty]

AnimeFreak40K, on 08 July 2016 - 12:33 PM, said:

What part of "Look, I'm not going to get into this debate... especially not here...." did you not understand?

...and yet you are "here". (...getting into a debate)

[Uncle Totty]

Aramuside, on 08 July 2016 - 01:38 PM, said:

So why post about it...wait .... because you wanted to say something and then not respond to counters...

...or he/she (what ever) did not expect counters because "they" (yeah, that is a "neutral" term) is (?) dumb.



...and YES. I have been drinking. (...am drunk.)

Edited by Uncle Totty, 08 July 2016 - 05:14 PM.

[DONTOR]

martian, on 07 July 2016 - 11:51 AM, said:

Two 65-tonners:

• Linebacker - 17.5 tons of pod space available, speed 97 km/h
  
• Cauldron-Born - 30 tons of pod space available, speed 86 km/h

I am not sure if 11 km/h is worth 12.5 tons of pod space ...

Thats the CB with speed tweak and the LB without...

It'll be closer to 20 KPH in the end. Heavies that peak 100KPH are quite handy indeed.

[Nightshade24]

Myj, on 08 July 2016 - 09:29 AM, said:

Pretty sure he was just pointing out that people who buy this mech are stupid, just like people who put LRM's on an Atlas are stupid. Then he tried to make the point that if you keep buying these bad mechs then PGI will never learn to stop releasing them. Then he said people are bad at MWO and won't ever be able to be good. I think. Lol!

Your analysis made my day.

[Uncle Totty]

Dee Eight, on 08 July 2016 - 03:55 PM, said:

The other stupidity that is Robotech and people with some weird devotion to it, is the ginormous plot hole discrepency between Robotech the tv series and the RPG.. and the original source material. ya know...the whole PROTOCULTURE as an energy source crap... how exactly if the people of earth had no idea what it was, or that the matrix was hidden inside the SDF-1, did they build a vast space fleet and all these mecha, without any understanding of the fuel source supposedly used in them, or access to the means to make more of the engines/generators that accepts this wonder substance.

(Drunk me BTW): Stop it! You're making people THINK!

Edited by Uncle Totty, 08 July 2016 - 05:19 PM.