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[DragoonBrigade]

I don't think these caches are worth spending real money on. Nothing special in them and when there is something decent like 7 day premium time your odds of getting it is very slim. I'll pass.

[PaquIS]

Bought some MC and got 8 supply caches from them. Here are the results:

1. LRM15
2. 250k CBills
3. 2x Med Pulse Laser (IS)
4. AC5
5. SHC-A Right Arm
6. ER PPC
7. Mech Bay
8. 100k CBills

So not all too great except the mech bay.

[SpiralFace]

PaquIS, on 30 July 2016 - 07:20 AM, said:

Bought some MC and got 8 supply caches from them. Here are the results:

1. LRM15
2. 250k CBills
3. 2x Med Pulse Laser (IS)
4. AC5
5. SHC-A Right Arm
6. ER PPC
7. Mech Bay
8. 100k CBills

So not all too great except the mech bay.

So basically, the supply cache purchases in this case are very much worth it.

You basically spent 200 MC on keys to get a 300 MC mechbay, 350k cbills, and a bunch of equipment that might net you about a million total c-bills when everything is said and done.

Doesn't seem like that bad of an exchange to essentially get a mechbay for 1/3rd off + a chunk of c-bills.

[s0da72]

I'm surprised they didn't implement something like this sooner. It seems to be a standard practice with F2P games.

But as they continue to follow the path of other F2P games, We can all look forward to when they make an announcement that all mech and weapon modules will become bound to the mech once you equip them. It's only a matter of time

[Mole]

s0da72, on 30 July 2016 - 09:15 AM, said:

But as they continue to follow the path of other F2P games, We can all look forward to when they make an announcement that all mech and weapon modules will become bound to the mech once you equip them. It's only a matter of time

I don't think they will do that to a mechwarrior game. And if they do, I and a whole lot of other players will quit.

[Kyrie]

Wait until special bonus-stat weapons are added that can only be gotten from crates.... that are bound-on-install. :-)

[Kubernetes]

Yeah, it's not a scam, it just feels like one. When I don't open one I start thinking "Man, it would have been nice to get that Executioner or mechbay or 1000MC," and when I do open one I start saying "FFS I wasted 25MC to get an LRM15." Either way it feels bad.

[AntleredCormorant]

Odds of winning anything decent aside, I'm disappointed to see the challenges & events going away from specific themed items in favor of supply crates. When I won cockpit items I would put them in the mech I used, so they have some nostalgia value beyond just ornamentation. Like right now it's midsummer here in the US & instead of cool themed items like the oscillating fan or cold drink I instead win.. An SRM4.

Point being, I'm not going to look back in a year and think "Ah yes, I remember when I won this SRM4, that was a fun challenge". Really takes away from the events IMO.

[Mole]

AntleredCormorant, on 30 July 2016 - 02:50 PM, said:

Odds of winning anything decent aside, I'm disappointed to see the challenges & events going away from specific themed items in favor of supply crates. When I won cockpit items I would put them in the mech I used, so they have some nostalgia value beyond just ornamentation. Like right now it's midsummer here in the US & instead of cool themed items like the oscillating fan or cold drink I instead win.. An SRM4.

Point being, I'm not going to look back in a year and think "Ah yes, I remember when I won this SRM4, that was a fun challenge". Really takes away from the events IMO.

Yeah, they can have their little supply cache scam all they want. But it really upsets me that they seem to be going the route of replacing all the cool items they used to give away in event challenges with the damned things. I've got enough standing and hanging items to equip all my 'mechs but I need more warhorns or other mounted items. I used to look forward to these events because they usually gave me a chance to win one.

Edited by Mole, 30 July 2016 - 03:59 PM.

[Deadead]

Viktor Drake, on 29 July 2016 - 09:19 AM, said:

I posted this in another thread but the problem is that the experience is so negative.

I opened 3 boxes. In those 3 boxes, there were 21 items that I would have felt good about winning and only 3 items that were craptastic. I was excited about my chances to win because darn near 90% of the prizes were things I wanted to win. However in all three cases I got the 1 craptastic item.

The point I am making it isn't about anything other than how the whole process makes you feel. Instead of feeling good about getting the Supply Cache award at the end of a match because you know you have a good chance of getting some nice goodies, you just end up disappointed because when you do open the boxes be it with free keys or MC purchased keys, you realize your chance of getting anything even half way decent are like 1%.

So overall all the Supply Cache system does is make the players disappointed. If you use a key you get disappointed because you only win the craptastic stuff and if you sell them for the 50k C-bills you find your disappointed that you have to dispose of a prize you won rather than open it. It is lose-lose even if every box technically gives you something.

this!

[Balthzar Hazen]

SpiralFace, on 30 July 2016 - 08:03 AM, said:

So basically, the supply cache purchases in this case are very much worth it.

You basically spent 200 MC on keys to get a 300 MC mechbay, 350k cbills, and a bunch of equipment that might net you about a million total c-bills when everything is said and done.

Doesn't seem like that bad of an exchange to essentially get a mechbay for 1/3rd off + a chunk of c-bills.

these caches come with the keys when you buy MC

[Brain Cancer]

The omnipods are my favorite part. Nothing like getting a chunk of a robot you never even owned to begin with.

One-shot paint/camo would be ideal to add instead.

[cazidin]

Just a side note. Am I the only one who thinks that the music that plays while the wheel spins and when you win an item is far too epic? It should be something closer to Jeopardy music. Even more so when you consider the "prizes".

[KillerWarGuy]

MeiSooHaityu, on 27 July 2016 - 10:16 AM, said:

That's not ENTIRELY true.

If they gave away MC items and you won an item you WERE going to purchase and now don't have to, then the give away item DID cost PGI a sale. If you weren't going to purchase that item anyway, and it had no effect on your purchasing, then yes what you said would be right.

I think PGI is afraid that if they sweeten the pot too much with MC goods, it will erode sales. Unfortunately I think that means they went too far into the C-Bill only item territory. I think they could improve the pot and the odds a little bit more.

I'd add one thing for PGI to stew on, if I get one Mech I'm going to have to buy 2 more to master it, there is the up sale.

Edited by KillerWarGuy, 31 July 2016 - 06:12 PM.

[MeanMachinE]

I opened 18 supply caches and pretty much guessed beforehand what I would get. Just bet for the most lame object and that is what you will most likely get Out of 18, 3 were c-ams's. It would be nice to see the probabilities on the items you are rolling on beforehand. It sure does not seem to be 1/8 though you do get the impression. After this testing I will just sell all my caches in the future.

[kesmai]

And this is where the problem starts for pgi.
A lot of people tried the caches, got crap or cheap useless stuff out of them and will never buy a key or open a crate again.
This whole thing is like a manual on how to shoot yourself into the knee.
Well done pgi, well done.

[xengk]

TWIAFU, on 30 July 2016 - 02:57 AM, said:

Thank you.

Found it odd that I had two boxes rewarded both with exact same items in the exact same places in the box and when opened got exact same things.

Just trying to add some 'data' to the discussion.

For the record, don't really care for the boxes all that much. PGI missed a great opportunity here to add some lore/immersion with the boxes. I will NEVER pay $$ for a key but will gladly open them up when I have free MC from events.

It feels kinda like an odd coincident.
Either the draw rate for those item are very high.
ie: the Keys have 45% drop rate, and the cGauss at 40%, leaving the remain 4 items at single digit drop rate.

or the result for each cache is predetermined, but the chance of getting the cache is random.
ie: there are 8 identical cache, each have a chance to be reward to player.
the chance of getting Key cache is 45%, and cache with cGauss is at 40%.
this method is really arsebackward way of doing gacha system, but I have seen this before in my line of work.
due to weird system limitation, it cannot gacha something in a player's possession, but can randomize the item before issuing to player.

[MeiSooHaityu]

KillerWarGuy, on 31 July 2016 - 06:03 PM, said:

I'd add one thing for PGI to stew on, if I get one Mech I'm going to have to buy 2 more to master it, there is the up sale.

Unless you purchase the other 2 mechs with C-Bills (which is the most likely way they will be purchased).

Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 02 August 2016 - 02:41 AM.

[Ryllen Kriel]

Caches are garbage bins. I have opened a few and it's always the worst item. Just sell them.

[Rushmoar]

I have only opened 3 so far and sold 4.

received: 250,000 c-bills
narc
mechbay

Best thing to do is survey what is in the boxes and if most of the item can be bought for c-bills, just sell that box. Look for the MC valued items and go from there.