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#141 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:05 AM

View PostOderint dum Metuant, on 07 August 2016 - 12:03 AM, said:


If it wasn't for the tournament and it's rules and the 11 other people that would get removed i'd poke all the holes in your arguments into next week..........but that would be overly negative towards PGI....so...yea, please continue with your knighting many have done so before you and many will do so after.




You think they aren't? Of course they are.
It makes business sense when one game is "done" and you need more revenue your going to publish more products. Trannyverse wasn't canceled, it was "taken back under wraps for now".
It is still being developed, and they didn't get community funding for it, so it's being funded through the studio.....which means their current project................mechpack sales duh....

Where do you think Bryan Ekman disappeared too all those years ago....................

yea, superstition land. We get to now put forth any idea that we can think of!!!!!!!

And I dont have a clue what your first paragraph means. Also I also succesfully refuted the OP. Not only that I can easily demonstrate why most of the claims here dont really fit or are sound based on evidence. However you go ahead, your getting close to pinning me down.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 07 August 2016 - 12:09 AM.


#142 HellJumper

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:07 AM

I see a lot of dedicated people raising their concern in this topic.. and then they say its the player base fault that they go all angry on us and are negative towards PGI..yet they dont accept that one of the MAJOR issue is that they keep this player base in the dark with almost zero information provided...

yet they expect us to spend money... nicely done pgi nicely done...

#143 Oderint dum Metuant

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:08 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 07 August 2016 - 12:05 AM, said:

yea, superstition land. We get to now put forth any idea that we can think of!!!!!!!


So where is Bryan Ekman since the failure of the community funding for Transverse.

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Also I also succesfully refuted the OP.[


you refuted nothing, you've simply stated it's coming. Which it is....late...twice. (great business professionalism)

Edited by Oderint dum Metuant, 07 August 2016 - 12:13 AM.


#144 EvilCow

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:09 AM

View PostOderint dum Metuant, on 07 August 2016 - 12:08 AM, said:


So where is Bryan Ekman since the failure of the community funding for Transverse.


They sent him selling ice cream in Siberia.

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:09 AM

View PostOderint dum Metuant, on 07 August 2016 - 12:03 AM, said:



If it wasn't for the tournament and it's rules and the 11 other people that would get removed i'd poke all the holes in your arguments into next week..........but that would be overly negative towards PGI....so...yea, please continue with your knighting many have done so before you and many will do so after.




You think they aren't? Of course they are.
It makes business sense when one game is "done" and you need more revenue your going to publish more products. Trannyverse wasn't canceled, it was "taken back under wraps for now".
It is still being developed, and they didn't get community funding for it, so it's being funded through the studio.....which means their current project................mechpack sales duh....

Where do you think Bryan Ekman disappeared too all those years ago....................


He didn't disappear. Legend has it he is working on a new title, high in the mountains, in a cave, in Africa.

Edited by Johnny Z, 07 August 2016 - 12:10 AM.


#146 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:13 AM

I was actually going to compile a list of things they improved upon this game which was written in their roadmaps. There is to much data, so i dont feel like doing so. However if you take the time to actually read the development to the game just in the frame of this year its pretty decent.

Im not saying there werent other things they couldve done. I am not saying there are things they did badly. Im just saying look at it with evidence.

View PostOderint dum Metuant, on 07 August 2016 - 12:08 AM, said:


So where is Bryan Ekman since the failure of the community funding for Transverse.

I dont know. hes probably working on something. Why do you believe you can just assert something and not provide evidence. Russ said he split from the company a long time ago. Of course since your gonna put any conspiracy in place it doesnt matter to you. For all we know he is in space

#147 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:16 AM

View PostOderint dum Metuant, on 07 August 2016 - 12:08 AM, said:


So where is Bryan Ekman since the failure of the community funding for Transverse.



you refuted nothing, you've simply stated it's coming. Which it is....late...twice. (great business professionalism)

Dont play that game. I can easily quote the OP and tell him why he can not assert what he did given that he had no evidence that they were not gonna post one or that they had nothing in development. You dont wanna go there buddy

are we serious? I leave the forums for months and come back and this is what passing for meaningful conversations? ohh jeez,

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 07 August 2016 - 12:18 AM.


#148 Oderint dum Metuant

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:17 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 07 August 2016 - 12:13 AM, said:

I was actually going to compile a list of things they improved upon this game which was written in their roadmaps. There is to much data, so i dont feel like doing so. However if you take the time to actually read the development to the game just in the frame of this year its pretty decent.

Im not saying there werent other things they couldve done. I am not saying there are things they did badly. Im just saying look at it with evidence.
I dont know. hes probably working on something. Why do you believe you can just assert something and not provide evidence. Russ said he split from the company a long time ago. Of course since your gonna put any conspiracy in place it doesnt matter to you. For all we know he is in space



Improvements are subjective. You would consider supply crates an improvement many...would disagree.

Why are you incapable of connecting the dots.

I get your invested in the game, and love the background. Many others are and do too, but you have to actually keep your eyes open.

Also stop using those LBX's...they are bad...really bad.

#149 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:20 AM

View PostOderint dum Metuant, on 07 August 2016 - 12:17 AM, said:



Improvements are subjective. You would consider supply crates an improvement many...would disagree.

Why are you incapable of connecting the dots.

I get your invested in the game, and love the background. Many others are and do too, but you have to actually keep your eyes open.

Also stop using those LBX's...they are bad...really bad.

why did you just mention supply crates? you got anything else. Trust me its a bit more than supply crates.

LEAVE MY LBX's ALONE I use them all the time and get good numbers.

connecting the dots? you are just asserting stuff, what can i connect. your not giving me much to go off of besides weapon balance which is really subjective and supply crates.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 07 August 2016 - 12:21 AM.


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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:25 AM

Thats the problem with this thread. GIVE me a summarized list of the roadmaps of late 2015 and the ones leading up to this year. then give me the pros and cons. Then we can have a meaningful discussion. Instead i am back to people incapable of anything else but asserting things and saying stuff without context.

If your gonna tell me about development, then you gotta give something to work with and then we can talk about it. Stop making loose statements. Whats is with these threads?

The OP clearly states something that anybody capable of thinking can spot. You can not assert that since they were quick to have a road map before and the fact that they are late putting on up means that they dont have anything in the works. THATS THE WHOLE PROBLEM WITH THIS THREAD.

thats a blatant fallacy and he was asserting something to which he did not have enough information to go off on. Then because i point that it out i get the bandwagon gang in here saying more ludicrous stuff and conspiracy theories about ekman.

in the name of Kerensky help me understand these forums once again

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 07 August 2016 - 12:30 AM.


#151 JaxRiot

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:26 AM

View PostImperius, on 06 August 2016 - 10:09 PM, said:

CW flopped and was a waste of time just like I said 2 years ago... It had too many buckets, units were too big, and too many greedy players.

LET IT DIE AND MOVE ON TO THINGS LIKE PVE


I like the cut of this guys Jib

#152 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:38 AM

View PostJaxRiot, on 07 August 2016 - 12:26 AM, said:


I like the cut of this guys Jib

really? because I dont understand why people are complaining about buckets. That is only a problem because of low population. If the whole idea is to grow it then you are gonna run into the reverse problem that there are too many on a single planet.

We make small complaints like that which dont change the game much at all and then complain that they didnt do something else. My word that was all i heard in the townhall was buckets. Thats not a solution to anything. Unless they intend for the population to always be low then you want to limit the buckets.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 07 August 2016 - 12:39 AM.


#153 EvilCow

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:39 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 07 August 2016 - 12:25 AM, said:

in the name of Kerensky help me understand these forums once again


The White Knighs are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion.

#154 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:40 AM

View PostEvilCow, on 07 August 2016 - 12:39 AM, said:


The White Knighs are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion.

Ill give you that one.

#155 Oderint dum Metuant

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:44 AM

View PostEvilCow, on 07 August 2016 - 12:39 AM, said:


The White Knighs are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion.


Johnny Z is still in the order. But he's looking more offwhite these days.

#156 Navid A1

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:44 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 07 August 2016 - 12:40 AM, said:

View PostEvilCow, on 07 August 2016 - 12:39 AM, said:


The White Knighs are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion.

Ill give you that one.


So... how does it feel wiping off your armor everyday with PGI crapping all over it everyday for more than 4 years?

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:47 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 07 August 2016 - 12:25 AM, said:

Thats the problem with this thread. GIVE me a summarized list of the roadmaps of late 2015 and the ones leading up to this year. then give me the pros and cons. Then we can have a meaningful discussion. Instead i am back to people incapable of anything else but asserting things and saying stuff without context.

If your gonna tell me about development, then you gotta give something to work with and then we can talk about it. Stop making loose statements. Whats is with these threads?

The OP clearly states something that anybody capable of thinking can spot. You can not assert that since they were quick to have a road map before and the fact that they are late putting on up means that they dont have anything in the works. THATS THE WHOLE PROBLEM WITH THIS THREAD.

thats a blatant fallacy and he was asserting something to which he did not have enough information to go off on. Then because i point that it out i get the bandwagon gang in here saying more ludicrous stuff and conspiracy theories about ekman.

in the name of Kerensky help me understand these forums once again


development might be different for different people i would say.. for some having more mechs to play with can be development.. improving things can be development..having updated maps can be development and from this pov its quite clear that pgi has been developing well over time..

from others pov (mine atleast) developments has only three things in it for MWO.. maps (new ones, not updated/reskins of existing), game modes (if you want to call the new game mode a game mode where everyone has to come in a big circle and brawl out then ya i will take it and thats why i am interested in the new assault mode coming), balance.

so if i look at my criteria for development vs the other one then i wont say the game has developed much...

not talking about CW/FW here as i dont play it.

and seeing from 2015 till now...i wont say the game has developed much

Edited by HellJumper, 07 August 2016 - 12:48 AM.


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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:50 AM

View PostHellJumper, on 07 August 2016 - 12:47 AM, said:


development might be different for different people i would say.. for some having more mechs to play with can be development.. improving things can be development..having updated maps can be development and from this pov its quite clear that pgi has been developing well over time..

from others pov (mine atleast) developments has only three things in it for MWO.. maps (new ones, not updated/reskins of existing), game modes (if you want to call the new game mode a game mode where everyone has to come in a big circle and brawl out then ya i will take it and thats why i am interested in the new assault mode coming), balance.

so if i look at my criteria for development vs the other one then i wont say the game has developed much...

not talking about CW/FW here as i dont play it.

and seeing from 2015 till now...i wont say the game has developed much

funny how that is. Since the only times i seen anyone make an attempt to display development they only seem to bring up supply crates.

It seems to me for each month they at least added a feature that is woth while. Since the beginning of this year they added i believe three maps, and redone others. The others needed to be redone and that was voiced strongly. Yet you are gonna give them hell for something people were asking for? we still got 4 months+this one for development. So honestly im not going to make a conclusion based off of incomplete information. If thats how you do it then have at it.

another premature thread. Just like the thread that said 3/3/3/3 was gonna fail and when it released he had nothing to say after that. Just kept quite as if he never made the thread in the first place. So yea I will support this game till its done and if i get crap for that i can care less.

I have chosen to always look at things objectively and i dont poison the well before i post.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 07 August 2016 - 12:56 AM.


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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:54 AM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 07 August 2016 - 12:50 AM, said:

funny how that is. Since the only times i seen anyone make an attempt to display development they only seem to bring up supply crates.


what can i say to that.. i told what i think is development vs what has been done...

supply cashes (never used them nor gotten them yet :P) and decals are in the game so i am all fine with it..

but imo this game needs more maps..a lot more maps with variety.. rest i am not bothered about .. thats me

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Posted 07 August 2016 - 12:58 AM

View PostHellJumper, on 07 August 2016 - 12:47 AM, said:


development might be different for different people i would say.. for some having more mechs to play with can be development.. improving things can be development..having updated maps can be development and from this pov its quite clear that pgi has been developing well over time..

from others pov (mine atleast) developments has only three things in it for MWO.. maps (new ones, not updated/reskins of existing), game modes (if you want to call the new game mode a game mode where everyone has to come in a big circle and brawl out then ya i will take it and thats why i am interested in the new assault mode coming), balance.

so if i look at my criteria for development vs the other one then i wont say the game has developed much...

not talking about CW/FW here as i dont play it.

and seeing from 2015 till now...i wont say the game has developed much


I've yet to see new features... since 2014.

since the beginning it has always been fixing broken things that should not have been broken in the first place. That is not developing new features!

The standard is so low when it comes to progress in this game that changing the button name from "PLAY NOW" to "QUICK PLAY" is considered a feature mentioned in the freakin roadmap!!!!


This game has basically NOTHING new over the game we were playing in closed beta!!
CW?... that is a negative point in the score book... its a negative 1 feature!
Besides new mechs, name me one thing that was a new feature!
it was all tweak this.. change that.. then tweak some more... quirk this,, unquirk that!

I've seen mod teams do more development than that!. The only thing PGI has going for them is their amazing and talented art team... I feel those guys are trapped.. and i feel sad for them.


Sometimes I feel that PGI bought the already written MWO code from some other studio and they are just modding and tweaking it ever since without realizing or understanding the code!!!


I just CAN NOT believe that PGI wrote the base MWO code... they just can't have done that.... its utterly impossible!

Edited by Navid A1, 07 August 2016 - 01:01 AM.






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