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[Chados]

It really is.

I see a lot of cheating allegations. And it's irritating that on Frozen City I seem to get sniped from 1600m away with Clan ER Large Lasers when I'm under ECM in a small-sized 45 ton mech and theoretically should be hard to see.

It's tempting to go "aimbot! Wallhack!" And I've seen one or two times over the last year in game where that probably was the case. But the reality is that high-end players almost universally are running high end gear.

Because that is what really makes the difference.

I started playing on a real potato computer, at the low end of the permitted range. I could barely LRM. When some nice guys from the 9th Sword of the Dragon helpfully took me under their wings (thanks, Mighty Wings) and tested me for a guild invite while giving me some basic pointers, I could barely keep up.

We upgraded my laptop to midrange specs. I played with it for a year, enough to get to the T3/T4 border. Then my husband decided that he wanted my laptop for one of his projects and upgraded me to a secondhand gaming laptop. It has a 17" UHD display, NVIDIA GTX 970M GPU with 3Gb RAM, and 8 Gb DDR RAM.

And wow...the difference. Last night I went from medium settings and about 30 fps at 1280x1024 to 60 FPS at 1600x900, with high settings across the board. I never saw LRM smoke trails before. You can see camo schemes on mechs from distances now. I see details I never saw before. It's...impressive. The game is awful pretty at high settings and with the resolution you can see the enemy farther without a lock or Doritos.

When you're getting sniped from unreal distances it might be that the other player's working with a super high end system and can see things you can't. A huge monitor at über-high resolution makes a difference.

[Lily from animove]

doesn't have to be the pc at all, even if it coudl be. The rare times I die very early and have to watch teammates playing I realise that awarenes is a VERY bad, they have opponents on their screen and don't even react wihtin 3 seconds towards this. I am sure a person not able to relaise a mech within 3 seconds on the screen at 200m distance will just never realise a stalker or EBJ at 800m just showing a tiny bit torso over a hill. And especially hillpoking is a matter of a second, appear, fire disappear. So as harsh as it may sound the potatoe sometimes is at the keyboard not behind the keyboard..

Edited by Lily from animove, 18 August 2016 - 03:48 AM.

[dervishx5]

[El Bandito]

Chados, on 18 August 2016 - 03:28 AM, said:

It really is.

I see a lot of cheating allegations. And it's irritating that on Frozen City I seem to get sniped from 1600m away with Clan ER Large Lasers when I'm under ECM in a small-sized 45 ton mech and theoretically should be hard to see.

It's tempting to go "aimbot! Wallhack!" And I've seen one or two times over the last year in game where that probably was the case. But the reality is that high-end players almost universally are running high end gear.

Because that is what really makes the difference.

I started playing on a real potato computer, at the low end of the permitted range. I could barely LRM. When some nice guys from the 9th Sword of the Dragon helpfully took me under their wings (thanks, Mighty Wings) and tested me for a guild invite while giving me some basic pointers, I could barely keep up.

We upgraded my laptop to midrange specs. I played with it for a year, enough to get to the T3/T4 border. Then my husband decided that he wanted my laptop for one of his projects and upgraded me to a secondhand gaming laptop. It has a 17" UHD display, NVIDIA GTX 970M GPU with 3Gb RAM, and 8 Gb DDR RAM.

And wow...the difference. Last night I went from medium settings and about 30 fps at 1280x1024 to 60 FPS at 1600x900, with high settings across the board. I never saw LRM smoke trails before. You can see camo schemes on mechs from distances now. I see details I never saw before. It's...impressive. The game is awful pretty at high settings and with the resolution you can see the enemy farther without a lock or Doritos.

When you're getting sniped from unreal distances it might be that the other player's working with a super high end system and can see things you can't. A huge monitor at über-high resolution makes a difference.

Except players can actually see better from long distance, when they are using low graphical settings. All those faraway trees and branches blocking your vision? Reduced or gone. Fog/smog/smoke? Reduced. That thin building just barely hiding the enemy? You can see through them. Not to mention enemy's annoying Missile/AC hits as well as your own weapons' fire will blur the screen much less.

As long as one's computer is half-decent (able to have 60 FPS in low settings), only screen size really matters when shooting accurately.

Edited by El Bandito, 18 August 2016 - 04:04 AM.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Yea, you kind of disadvantage yourself playing at high settings.

[Lily from animove]

El Bandito, on 18 August 2016 - 03:55 AM, said:

Except players can actually see better from long distance, when they are using low graphical settings. Not to mention enemy's annoying Missile/AC hits will blur the screen much less.

so the "pro" gamers settings are ultra supersize HD 50 monitors and all details and shizzles on min because THE EDGE MATTERS.

But I better be not at the edge and have shiny stuff than that.

and honestly some people have such a need for ego stroking and tryharding that for just some fps they make games like this:



look like this



via config changes, and that really just for some fps.
and comapred to that it's so fugly even the old Half Life looks like a next gen graphic.

Edited by Lily from animove, 18 August 2016 - 04:24 AM.

[Otto Cannon]

Except that high settings make smoke and other concealing factors worse, so in fact people turn the graphic settings down if they want an advantage.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

Lily from animove, on 18 August 2016 - 03:57 AM, said:

so the "pro" gamers settings are ultra supersize HD 50 monitors and all details and shizzles on min because THE EDGE MATTERS.

Being able to see the person shooting at your with CERL is pretty important to playing the game tbh.

[Davegt27]

something I been wondering about since I started
this is my first online game
back around 2007 time frame I had a Machine shop instructor that was a big time gamer

he was always talking about high end machines with overclocking and liquid cooling
seemed kind of crazy

I think he played rainbow six
he got all excited when T1 became available
anyway still wondering about a lot of stuff

[El Bandito]

Lily from animove, on 18 August 2016 - 03:57 AM, said:

so the "pro" gamers settings are ultra supersize HD 50 monitors and all details and shizzles on min because THE EDGE MATTERS.

But I better be not at the edge and have shiny stuff than that.

The edge of course matters. In League of Legends tournaments, where millions of dollars are at stake, the players use the lowest settings, so stuff like particles and shadows will not confuse them.

Some people dislike those who intentionally play with low settings. That's fine with me. I'm just gonna farm them like all others. I play to win, and I am having fun doing it.

[dervishx5]

El Bandito, on 18 August 2016 - 04:10 AM, said:

The edge of course matters. In League of Legends tournaments, where millions of dollars are at stake, the players use the lowest settings, so stuff like particles and shadows will not confuse them.

Some people dislike those who intentionally play with low settings. That's fine with me. I'm just gonna farm them like all others. I play to win, and I am having fun doing it.

So it's super embarrassing when you lose to those of us who don't have to go for that edge.

[Wintersdark]

Chados, on 18 August 2016 - 03:28 AM, said:

It really is.

I see a lot of cheating allegations. And it's irritating that on Frozen City I seem to get sniped from 1600m away with Clan ER Large Lasers when I'm under ECM in a small-sized 45 ton mech and theoretically should be hard to see.

It's tempting to go "aimbot! Wallhack!" And I've seen one or two times over the last year in game where that probably was the case. But the reality is that high-end players almost universally are running high end gear.

Because that is what really makes the difference.

I started playing on a real potato computer, at the low end of the permitted range. I could barely LRM. When some nice guys from the 9th Sword of the Dragon helpfully took me under their wings (thanks, Mighty Wings) and tested me for a guild invite while giving me some basic pointers, I could barely keep up.

We upgraded my laptop to midrange specs. I played with it for a year, enough to get to the T3/T4 border. Then my husband decided that he wanted my laptop for one of his projects and upgraded me to a secondhand gaming laptop. It has a 17" UHD display, NVIDIA GTX 970M GPU with 3Gb RAM, and 8 Gb DDR RAM.

And wow...the difference. Last night I went from medium settings and about 30 fps at 1280x1024 to 60 FPS at 1600x900, with high settings across the board. I never saw LRM smoke trails before. You can see camo schemes on mechs from distances now. I see details I never saw before. It's...impressive. The game is awful pretty at high settings and with the resolution you can see the enemy farther without a lock or Doritos.

When you're getting sniped from unreal distances it might be that the other player's working with a super high end system and can see things you can't. A huge monitor at über-high resolution makes a difference.

I don't have a crazy awesome system.

I have never had a problem seeing any mech, at any distance. If you're in my line of sight, I can see you just fine.

Now, I *do* run at high settings (with Post Pro and Particles turned down) and 1080p and a cheapo Benq 22" monitor, but I imagine that's where the bulk of players are. My old Radeon 7850 could do that at never less than 45fps, and that was a pretty old midrange card.

In fact, since the game's inception, I've never once had a hard time seeing any mech, anywhere. Being smaller doesn't make you harder to see, at least with the hardware listed above.

Edited by Wintersdark, 18 August 2016 - 04:18 AM.

[Lily from animove]

Oderint dum Metuant, on 18 August 2016 - 03:59 AM, said:

Being able to see the person shooting at your with CERL is pretty important to playing the game tbh.

I play on all settings high and I can see them too. it's not like it totally disappears.

The edge matters for people wh have that urgent need to win at all costs and therefore accept the game looking more crappy. I just hope those aren't the same oeple flaiming PGI for "MWO graphics were better in CB times" as it is just a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL argument at this moment.

if you need that edge to win then, its sad. I enjoy fat explosions and **** in meantime

Edited by Lily from animove, 18 August 2016 - 04:38 AM.

[Bud Crue]

Davegt27, on 18 August 2016 - 04:10 AM, said:

something I been wondering about since I started
this is my first online game
back around 2007 time frame I had a Machine shop instructor that was a big time gamer

he was always talking about high end machines with overclocking and liquid cooling
seemed kind of crazy

I think he played rainbow six
he got all excited when T1 became available
anyway still wondering about a lot of stuff

I gave up wondering. I'm too old and too cheap to worry about having the fastest or the best tech with anything anymore. I am now in the opposite frame of mind, I want to find a way to make current computers run old games properly.

I mean no matter what I try I can't get my old copies of MW3 to run (the damn tanks fly all over the screen and then the graphics go haywire and then it errors out) , or the "Hellbender" game or Decent, even my old flight simulators. Sell me a POS machine that will play those and I'd buy it. You can keep the fiber optic internet line and the super cooled processor.
Thank heaven my coleco-vision with the atari 2600 adapter still works on the CRT television I have in my shop (gotta blow pretty hard into some of those cartridges to make em work). When that set up dies, then I'm really screwed.

Edited by Bud Crue, 18 August 2016 - 04:29 AM.

[El Bandito]

dervishx5, on 18 August 2016 - 04:12 AM, said:

So it's super embarrassing when you lose to those of us who don't have to go for that edge.

Why should I be embarrassed when I am beating you guys far more than losing? My WLR and KDR in the solo-q is far higher than the average pug.

I laugh at those who make a big deal about this. If you think playing in low setting suddenly makes you a pro, you are sorely mistaken. I can beat most of the player population even in the highest settings. I just like to go even further.

[dervishx5]

El Bandito, on 18 August 2016 - 04:29 AM, said:

Why should I be embarrassed when I am beating you guys far more than losing? My WLR and KDR in the solo-q is far higher than the average pug.

I laugh at those who make a big deal about this. If you think playing in low setting suddenly makes you a pro, you are sorely mistaken. I can beat most of the player population even in the highest settings. I just like to go even further.

Dude, you're Marik. Name a competitive Marik team that's even A rated.

Edited by dervishx5, 18 August 2016 - 04:31 AM.

[El Bandito]

dervishx5, on 18 August 2016 - 04:30 AM, said:

Dude, you're Marik. Name a competitive Marik team that's even A rated.

And now you are putting up a strawman, by judging me through my faction, instead of my personal performance. This shows your utter lack of logic. It wont take much for me to switch to CJF, or other factions, and then where is your argument?

I chose Marik, because in lore there are Mongolians living in the FWL. Not because I wished to ride on the coattails of bloated FW/Comp faction teams.

Edited by El Bandito, 18 August 2016 - 04:38 AM.

[dervishx5]

El Bandito, on 18 August 2016 - 04:36 AM, said:

And now you are putting up a strawman, by judging me through my faction, instead of my personal performance. This shows your utter lack of logic. It wont take much for me to switch to CJF, or other factions, and then where is your argument?

I chose Marik, because in lore there are Mongolians living in the FWL. Not because I wished to ride on the coattails of bloated FW/Comp faction teams.

No, not lack of logic. It just shows that what you and I consider to be important is different. (You've been Marik every time I've seen you).

Anyway, I apologize for ruffling your feathers while you were preening them.

[Brizna]

Yeah, high settings are a handicap, I still use them though, the game looks so much better and my rigs handles it right. But yeah, specially smoke sucks.

[El Bandito]

dervishx5, on 18 August 2016 - 04:43 AM, said:

No, not lack of logic. It just shows that what you and I consider to be important is different. (You've been Marik every time I've seen you).

Anyway, I apologize for ruffling your feathers while you were preening them.

And now you are compounding your folly by insisting that factions actually mean anything in the solo-q, instead of personal performance. Makes you unworthy to converse with, any further.

Edited by El Bandito, 18 August 2016 - 04:48 AM.