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[Novakaine]

Not a bunch of aimbotting, lag shielding on the other hand.............

[Bishop Steiner]

Ghogiel, on 22 August 2016 - 02:35 AM, said:

They did in fact catch the main programmer off guard with their initial detection and ban wave last year. He said that the game had no anti cheat for what was it 3+ years at the time and was a legitimate detection on PGIs part. It has since been patched and it is confirmed to be working and thus far undetectable since then. google and reddit it yourself because no one can really link to real talk about the state of the hack etc.

or PGI has made it a point not to do a mass public banwave again precisely to avoid setting off the programmers radar.

That said, in over 20k matches, I have been "positive" of aimbots maybe a dozen times ("good" cheaters tend to avoid being obvious, bad ones tend to get caught fast), whereas there are certain clans, even competitive ones, where I am all but certain were using wallhacks, but as you say, detecting and proving it, even at the best of times, is a lot tougher. That said, I would say the number of matches I have suspected Wallhacks are probably at least a factor of 100 higher than aimbots.

Probably the most common cheat I have seen though are the Lights zipping around fine, with normal ping, but who suddenly have massive ping spikes the moment they start taking return fire. (Pornstream, engaged?). This has been a relative constant since the days of the Raven, though I have seen it less in recent month... though that might also be related to me pretty much not playing anymore.

[Cox Devalis]

PhoenixFire55, on 22 August 2016 - 06:18 AM, said:

It won't even be name-n-shame

it will be.
at least moderators are always saying that.

[Clownwarlord]

I would agree there is more lag shielding than aimbotting.

[Johnny Z]

Novakaine, on 22 August 2016 - 06:19 AM, said:

Not a bunch of aimbotting, lag shielding on the other hand.............

Many well known teams lag shielded for wins in faction play as standard procedure. Their unstoppable rushes were lead by lag shielded mechs, every match for some teams. Happy to name names but already got banned for that I am proud to say.

Edited by Johnny Z, 22 August 2016 - 06:22 AM.

[Mycrus]

only 65 cheetahs were banned... you think only 65 have cheated in this game?

they were supposed to announce a ban wave that never came... because whales™

[Bishop Steiner]

Stone Wall, on 22 August 2016 - 03:34 AM, said:

I can do this. At least you don't have to lag shoot them anymore.

Here are my tips.

Disable Cockpit Monitors and Glass.
Bring up the Task Manager and close down stuff you don't need. Example: Spotify, iTunes, UpdateChecker
Turn the game down to Medium, or Low if your computer stutters around Lights.
Zoom in if you have trouble seeing until the Light is closer.
Use lasers

PPFLD is the best way to kill Lights. Lasers are for those who have trouble hitting (SRMs work in a pinch, too). I'll stick to my AC20 as my Light Medicine.

Not a knock, just a fact. If you learn to lead, you want all that damage guaranteed to one spot. Lightsabering is for when you can't.

Ghogiel, on 22 August 2016 - 03:57 AM, said:

They used to do them on the NGNG TS and stream them. I think they called them syncdrop tuesdays or something.

Before you freak out, it's totally benign.

It's just a bunch of random players, mixed units and pugs, pressing drop at the same time, some don't make it into the same game, the ones that do end up on either side of the matches, then they change channels depending on where the MM places them. And then they fight it out just like pug drops. There isn't any advantage in doing it because every player is basically randomly placed and everyone has voip anyway.

The only reason to be scared of it is because people who don't use voip are aweful at the game and don't like it when other people are better than them. But even in these cases there isn't anything to worry about as even if you end up in one of these matches, as many as on your team will be voiping as there are on the other team.

Marik used to do Civil War Mondays that way, too.

[PhoenixFire55]

Mudhutwarrior, on 22 August 2016 - 06:18 AM, said:

I don't know but your as aggressive as the last one who followed me around and tried to sling mud on mud.

In all the years I have been here thats the best you can do? Bring up the same thing brought up twenty times before?

Well the last one making such a point was part of the 64 banned in the first wave so my bet on you stands.

So who is avoiding the subject now, eh?

You've been called a liar, clear proof presented, you got nothing to defend yourself with so you attack others instead - be it me or those supposed hackers and exploiters. On top of that everyone can see exactly how much of a terribad you are, so I don't even know who is the target audience for your stories is.

But the again, I guess if you repeat a lie many times someone may actually believe it. Must be a new trend north of Mexico.
Vote Trump.

[Elizander]

Bohxim, on 21 August 2016 - 09:56 PM, said:

I dunno man. I've lost count on the number of times I've tried to gauss a side torso off and it registered headshot. But unless my twin gauss doesn't kill in that headshot it's wasted dmg to me as I'm probably unable to get another one on that mech. I think it's just the lag

Same thing for me, was hitting a DDC's RT and blew out his head with 2xGuass2xPPC.

[Stone Wall]

I guess this game is just another animal. In MechWarrior 3 we considered those that shot UACs and lasers the ones with skill.

[PhoenixFire55]

Cox Devalis, on 22 August 2016 - 06:21 AM, said:

it will be.
at least moderators are always saying that.

The only ones that are proven are those in the list-of-glorious-64, the list was posted by PGI, either moderators moderate PGI or its not against CoC to post those names again, similar to the discussion we had back in the day about those guys in the said list-of-64 topic.

Regardless, this thread is going to get nuked simply because it deserves to be.

[Bishop Steiner]

Stone Wall, on 22 August 2016 - 06:29 AM, said:

I guess this game is just another animal. In MechWarrior 3 we considered those that shot UACs and lasers the ones with skill.

if one can actually maintain the beam the duration to one location, great. That is easy on Heavies and Assaults, to a lesser degree Mediums. Against a competent Light? It's literally impossible.

Lasers, spread and burst weapons are the weapon of choice for Bads in MWO precisely because the ability to inflicts SOME small amount of damage with consistency is preferable to missing all the time.

But Lightsabering Large Lasers and dinging a mech for 1-2 dmg here and there doesn't take skill. Repeatedly hitting the same section on a fast moving target with a non hitscan weapon, does.

[Cox Devalis]

PhoenixFire55, on 22 August 2016 - 06:30 AM, said:

The only ones that are proven are those in the list-of-glorious-64, the list was posted by PGI, either moderators moderate PGI or its not against CoC to post those names again, similar to the discussion we had back in the day about those guys in the said list-of-64 topic.

Regardless, this thread is going to get nuked simply because it deserves to be.

I think it was okay to post that list because they were <proven> cheaters. But we cannot prove, just assuming.
At least we are always getting cautioned when trying to name players who are bad or got stupid builds (in russian branch).

Edited by Cox Devalis, 22 August 2016 - 06:35 AM.

[Johnny Z]

Bishop Steiner, on 22 August 2016 - 06:34 AM, said:

if one can actually maintain the beam the duration to one location, great. That is easy on Heavies and Assaults, to a lesser degree Mediums. Against a competent Light? It's literally impossible.

Lasers, spread and burst weapons are the weapon of choice for Bads in MWO precisely because the ability to inflicts SOME small amount of damage with consistency is preferable to missing all the time.

But Lightsabering Large Lasers and dinging a mech for 1-2 dmg here and there doesn't take skill. Repeatedly hitting the same section on a fast moving target with a non hitscan weapon, does.

The only way to get a really good hit on a light mech with lasers is to shift into reverse in a light mech and go the same direction he is at an opportune time. Can result in an excellent hit. For advanced pilots.

Done right the light mech is running towards you and the same direction. He gets a chance for a good hit to is the down side.

Edited by Johnny Z, 22 August 2016 - 06:38 AM.

[PhoenixFire55]

Cox Devalis, on 22 August 2016 - 06:34 AM, said:

I think it was okay to post that list because they were <proven> cheaters.

Thats why I clearly asked the guy to name proven cheaters from those units, not whoever he has his wet dreams about

[Flitzomat]

Johnny Z, on 22 August 2016 - 06:08 AM, said:

Really?

Really!

If you have never had the experience of headhotting someone in 4 years it seems more likely to appear here and accuse others of aimbotting.
"Skill" is a pretty big word as it is comprised of so many things. Skill also means how to fit weapons so that they appear in the upper mounts (e.g. sml stacking). There is also the skill to know where the enemy will be (omg this is not that hard but many still fail and yell wallhack). And so the list of things that seem to be cheating by less skilled can be continued.

Just my personal observation over the years that most of the times people came here and complained and delivered "proof" it turned out to be smth like an ECM Mech in the back.

[Andi Nagasia]

hello everyone yes its me Again,
your Friendly Neighborhood Modderman,

i can assure you that if someone hacks they will be found out,
and if they are found out they will be banned for their Crimes,

just like if some one posts a Topic discussing hacking,
it will be found and subsequently locked by a Mod,

you guys know better,

Please remember Disusing Cheating or Hacking is in Violation of the COC,
if you suspect some one of Cheating Please use the In game Report Function,
Locking this Topic, as OP has been informed to reported suspected Cheaters,
Thank you for your Cooperation,