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#101 Nightmare1

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 03:39 PM

For those who have not had a chance to try out Power Draw yet, I made a playlist of vids from the three stages of ED:

https://www.youtube....bPhgcV8-QIvGyDo

#102 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 03:41 PM

View PostMarack Drock the Unicorn Wizard, on 04 September 2016 - 03:39 PM, said:

Step 2: yup did that a while ago in some other threads.

But again. Bouncing ideas and taking in ideas from others here is great. Problem is that: PGI DOESN'T TAKE FEEDBACK... especially Russ and Paul, our supreme overlords.

I won't bother replying to you again though.

You are just being a total ***, and I have better things to do than appease your ego.


hell, even I was a white knight back in the day. My armor turned blacker and blacker the more they ignored us

View PostMarack Drock the Unicorn Wizard, on 04 September 2016 - 03:39 PM, said:

I won't bother replying to you again though.

You are just being a total ***, and I have better things to do than appease your ego.


reason number 49 i have him on ignore. Do it, it helps lol

#103 Gentleman Reaper

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 03:45 PM

View PostAlienized, on 04 September 2016 - 10:39 AM, said:


and thats why im not sure if ED is actually working better than ghost heat.
the mixed loadouts work well currently. it isnt easy to use but doable. if ED is a making mixed loadouts even WORSE than theres no point in implementing ED since we can just leave stuff as it is.


This isn't an Issue with ED, it's an issue with the heat cap. Because there's so much room for sustained fire before heat is an issue, boats can put out so much damage that they can kill a mixed mech before they'd be forced to disengage to cool off. Mixed builds fared well with GH not because the system intended it so, but because they took advantage of its oversights. If GH was modified to link the different groups together then we'd have the exact same issue we have now, the way to fix this is reducing the heat cap.

#104 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 03:50 PM

View PostMarack Drock the Unicorn Wizard, on 04 September 2016 - 03:39 PM, said:

Step 2: yup did that a while ago in some other threads.

But again. Bouncing ideas and taking in ideas from others here is great. Problem is that: PGI DOESN'T TAKE FEEDBACK... especially Russ and Paul, our supreme overlords.

I won't bother replying to you again though.

You are just being a total ***, and I have better things to do than appease your ego.

so you just end it and insult me, and that just validates the claim. okay, I see why your mad.


AAAAAAND of course

View PostMechwarrior Buddah, on 04 September 2016 - 03:41 PM, said:


hell, even I was a white knight back in the day. My armor turned blacker and blacker the more they ignored us



reason number 49 i have him on ignore. Do it, it helps lol

It's ironic that most of everyone ignores these guys. Something just doesn't click

Its also laughable that Marack can't even have an conversation with me without calling me An well *** when all I was doing was trying to see if this claim was not B.S. Which it was so he reverts to childish tactics.

IT's so sad, I refuse to even believe that 1, anyone takes these guys seriously, and 2, that they are even decent people. It's laughable, they are clowns, and can't make an argument to save their life. Then they get mad that people call out their garbage, then resort to trolling anyone who disagreed with them. Their is one word I can use to descirbe their lot. Starts with P and end's with C

View PostGentleman Reaper, on 04 September 2016 - 03:45 PM, said:


This isn't an Issue with ED, it's an issue with the heat cap. Because there's so much room for sustained fire before heat is an issue, boats can put out so much damage that they can kill a mixed mech before they'd be forced to disengage to cool off. Mixed builds fared well with GH not because the system intended it so, but because they took advantage of its oversights. If GH was modified to link the different groups together then we'd have the exact same issue we have now, the way to fix this is reducing the heat cap.

I believe that is something they can play with. I have heard about increasing the effect of HS and reducing cap, but I might be convinced that just lowering the heat cap might be a good idea.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 04 September 2016 - 03:53 PM.


#105 RestosIII

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 04:07 PM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 04 September 2016 - 03:50 PM, said:

Their is one word I can use to descirbe their lot. Starts with P and end's with C

Pornographic?

#106 dervishx5

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 04:08 PM

anyone who disagrees with anyone is wrong

#107 Bud Crue

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 04:12 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 04 September 2016 - 04:07 PM, said:

Pornographic?


Parasitic? Plastic? Prophylactic?

(Edit: sorry, bored at inlaws with no way to play)

Edited by Bud Crue, 04 September 2016 - 04:14 PM.


#108 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 04:20 PM

View PostMarack Drock the Unicorn Wizard, on 04 September 2016 - 04:16 PM, said:

Was his hypocrisy number 50? lol, cause his reply... so much hypocrisy.

Gets after me about bouncing ideas around with people, and I post my thoughts on this topic and all of a sudden my idea is complete ****. And his complaint about me insulting him, and then he goes off and insults me. And anyone who disagrees with him.

I think Blood Wolf is like... lord of the trolls. He'd make Roadbeer proud.
I was about as white knight as they came back in the day. Then the Clans came out... and then I promptly turned coat and am now a proud anti-PGI.

well you called me an a** before i called you anything. as far as I am concerned all civility toward you is out the window on my part.

I never called your Idea complete **** now did I? Making things up, as usual. Should call you Marack Drock the dreamer-inventor of B.S

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 04 September 2016 - 04:28 PM.


#109 RestosIII

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 04:28 PM

View PostBud Crue, on 04 September 2016 - 04:12 PM, said:

Parasitic? Plastic? Prophylactic?

(Edit: sorry, bored at inlaws with no way to play)

Papistic? Phallic? Photosynthetic? Photonic? Photoelectric? Planktonic? Plutonic? Plumbic?

I could go all day.

#110 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 04:31 PM

View PostMarack Drock the Unicorn Wizard, on 04 September 2016 - 04:27 PM, said:

Technically speaking your entire first post was a sarcastic insult on my person and my post.

Nice try. And your second post was a strawman.

So you kinda insulted me first actually. Who is making up things now? Hypocrite. You have yet to be civil in this entire conversation.

How was that an insult? I was just trying to gather a bit of info. You are the one who made it out to be whatever you thought it was.

that wasn't a strawman, I did not call your idea ****. A straw man is mis-characterizing what someone is saying.

I am not a hypocrite, you twisted what I was saying. Find me where I called you idea ****

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 04 September 2016 - 04:34 PM.


#111 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 04:37 PM

View PostMarack Drock the Unicorn Wizard, on 04 September 2016 - 04:33 PM, said:

You did mischaracterize me, as you said I didn't read any PTS threads, which you couldn't possibly know. Which is actually both a strawman and argument from Ignorance.

If you were trying to gather info you would also have asked a question. Not mocked my post.

Also insulting someone, after complaining about being insulted, is hypocrisy. End of story.

I Didn't mock your post. I keep telling you that.

Its not a straw man, nor was i mis-characterizing. I said Go read a PTS, I didn't assume that you never read a Pts. There was also context to it when I said that.

You also have no clue what a straw man is.

yea, I am gonna insult after being insulted. It's only hypocrisy if i asked you to stop insulting me and i continued to do that. I have a actually policy in life that I give people the same manner of respect they give me. So when you call me an a**, I treat others in kind.

Words have definitions dude

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 04 September 2016 - 04:41 PM.


#112 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 04:43 PM

View PostMarack Drock the Unicorn Wizard, on 04 September 2016 - 04:40 PM, said:

This is a mockery: There is NO attempt to gain information here. Whatsoever. You liar.


Also welcome to my ignore list.

Did he pass elementary? sarcasm isn't mockery. Sarcasm is not literally meaning what is said. LOL, go ahead and ignore me, you're just too much at this point.

I kinda find it a victory when they put me on ignore. Every single one has made statements that Marack here has made. This is pricelessPosted Image, I actually laughed so hard i got tears. It's been awhile since that's happened.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 04 September 2016 - 04:47 PM.


#113 RestosIII

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 04:53 PM

View PostBLOOD WOLF, on 04 September 2016 - 04:43 PM, said:

Did he pass elementary? sarcasm isn't mockery. Sarcasm is not literally meaning what is said. LOL, go ahead and ignore me, you're just too much at this point.

I kinda find it a victory when they put me on ignore. Every single one has made statements that Marack here has made. This is pricelessPosted Image, I actually laughed so hard i got tears. It's been awhile since that's happened.

You know who laughs at doing the run-around with an argument and using semantics to claim they aren't doing what they're obviously doing? A troll. You've got a lot of victories today then, because I'm tired of reading the dribble you spew as well. Have fun doing what you do.

#114 BLOOD WOLF

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 05:09 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 04 September 2016 - 04:53 PM, said:

You know who laughs at doing the run-around with an argument and using semantics to claim they aren't doing what they're obviously doing? A troll. You've got a lot of victories today then, because I'm tired of reading the dribble you spew as well. Have fun doing what you do.

No sir, he called it mockery when I was being genuine. He said I committed fallacies to which I didn't. Claimed I mischaracerized him, which I didn't. Making claims without actually proving their validity is intellectual dishonesty. A game you and others play and hiss at those that do not.

he is a dishonest person, and you are simply taking sides because you don't like me.

Can't blame you for blocking me, I stopped taking you guys seriously years ago.

Doesn't matter, A dishonest man asserts the claim without providing evidence. An honest man would have accused me of doing so then demonstrated using the actual definition of the word to strengthen the claim.

I don't need to block people I have already understood to be incapable of being honest in a conversation.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 04 September 2016 - 05:13 PM.


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Posted 04 September 2016 - 05:16 PM

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 06:04 PM

Energy Draw is a success on Twitter therefore it's coming soon in the live client.

#117 Kin3ticX

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 08:39 PM

View PostImperius, on 04 September 2016 - 06:04 PM, said:

Energy Draw is a success on Twitter therefore it's coming soon in the live client.


It makes no sense to create power draw which is non lore to rescue lore damage like the C/ERPPC

Wont even make it to live, no way


The people pumping it think they see a cure-all but they are fooled

Edited by Kin3ticX, 04 September 2016 - 08:40 PM.


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Posted 04 September 2016 - 10:06 PM

View PostKin3ticX, on 04 September 2016 - 08:39 PM, said:


It makes no sense to create power draw which is non lore to rescue lore damage like the C/ERPPC

Wont even make it to live, no way


The people pumping it think they see a cure-all but they are fooled


Dude you're preaching to the choir. Like the mechs I would have just taken the names of weapons from TT and made them unique and fun.

TT just can't translate to a realtime FPS. I wish they would ditch the numbers, normalize the weapon tonnage of clan/is and allow mix tech.

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 10:26 PM

View PostMarack Drock the Unicorn Wizard, on 04 September 2016 - 03:39 PM, said:

Step 2: yup did that a while ago in some other threads.

But again. Bouncing ideas and taking in ideas from others here is great. Problem is that: PGI DOESN'T TAKE FEEDBACK... especially Russ and Paul, our supreme overlords.

I won't bother replying to you again though.

You are just being a total ***, and I have better things to do than appease your ego.


funny fact the ED mechanic was one that was first sugested (by a couple of different ppl over a period of time) on these forums. so what PGI did was select the mechanic sugested by its players, develop it (which took several months btw) and put it on a PTS for fine tuning...
reaction by the comunity hey test this other mechanic now? (1 week day later) what u no do it? PGI never listen to us!!!

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Posted 05 September 2016 - 12:01 AM

View PostL3mming2, on 04 September 2016 - 10:26 PM, said:


funny fact the ED mechanic was one that was first sugested (by a couple of different ppl over a period of time) on these forums. so what PGI did was select the mechanic sugested by its players, develop it (which took several months btw) and put it on a PTS for fine tuning...
reaction by the comunity hey test this other mechanic now? (1 week day later) what u no do it? PGI never listen to us!!!


It was suggested at least 2 years ago.

I doubt it took several months, more like a couple weeks plus however long the PTS has been going

I will tolerate ED but I still dislike the idea. Removing heat scaling isnt an option either so it is what it is





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