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[Mechwarrior Buddah]

I cant believe the huge fuss that PGI made to shoehorn this into this game for the supposed reasoning of that it helps new players when in reality, its a MASSIVE handicap.

Also, given all the glitches and issues, it looks like they put it in all that time ago and then never worked on it again

[BLOOD WOLF]

okay?

The whole thing is wonky. Given the spirit of the event.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 03 September 2016 - 06:41 AM.

[Kanil]

... and yet some people still act like it was some great injustice that it was ever added to the game in the first place.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Kanil, on 03 September 2016 - 06:41 AM, said:

... and yet some people still act like it was some great injustice that it was ever added to the game in the first place.

Given its what made them take the "Mech Simulator" tag off the web site, they thought it was pretty bad too

Also; if youd played the previous MW titles multiplayer, youd know WHY there was such a negative reaction to it

Edited by Mechwarrior Buddah, 03 September 2016 - 06:48 AM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Kanil, on 03 September 2016 - 06:41 AM, said:

... and yet some people still act like it was some great injustice that it was ever added to the game in the first place.

well you know "PGI lies",

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 03 September 2016 - 06:47 AM, said:

Also; if youd played the previous MW titles multiplayer, youd know WHY there was such a negative reaction to it

So I can guess those other companies got the same reaction from the same players as the ones here in MWO.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 03 September 2016 - 06:52 AM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

See, I dont think BW gets the concept of ignore. I cant read what you say buddy

[KHETTI]

Do what i do, pretend it it's not there and it never happened.

[Sjorpha]

BLOOD WOLF, on 03 September 2016 - 06:47 AM, said:

So I can guess those other companies got the same reaction from the same players as the ones here in MWO.

It only became an issue in multiplayer, which wasn't the main focus of any previous mechwarrior game. Also gaming culture wasn't really structured the same back then, you don't get the same arena for a public outcry with a single player game sold primarily off the shelf in physical copies.

It absolutely did mess up the multiplayer when it was allowed, just like many other things in those titles were quite unbalanced and game breaking if you allowed them in multiplayer, and the community had to organize itself with house rules to adapt the game into a working competitive experience.

So yes, the experience from the multiplayer in previous mechwarrior titles absolutely triggered a huge warning sign for third person view, and the outcry was an attempt to prevent the same problems being inherited by the first dedicated multiplayer mechwarrior game.

It ended up being nerfed into harmlessness, but like so many other things PGI has done there was no demand for it and not apparent positive effects. Just a huge waste of development resources and community goodwill for absolutely zero gain.

Edited by Sjorpha, 03 September 2016 - 07:06 AM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 03 September 2016 - 06:53 AM, said:

See, I dont think BW gets the concept of ignore. I cant read what you say buddy

you're a bit slow on the curb so i'll repeat for the 3rd time. I am not quoting you for a reply, I quote for context. I could care less that you have me on ignore.

Feel free to throw a fit though.

I'll remind you, DON"T REPLY

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 03 September 2016 - 07:09 AM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

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[BLOOD WOLF]

Sjorpha, on 03 September 2016 - 07:04 AM, said:

It only became an issue in multiplayer, which wasn't the main focus of any previous mechwarrior game. Also gaming culture wasn't really structured the same back then, you don't get the same arena for a public outcry with a single player game sold primarily off the shelf in physical copies.

It absolutely did mess up the multiplayer when it was allowed, just like many other things in those titles were quite unbalanced and game breaking if you allowed them in multiplayer, and the community had to organize itself with house rules to adapt the game into a working competitive experience.

So yes, the experience from the multiplayer in previous mechwarrior titles absolutely triggered a huge warning sign for third person view, and the outcry was an attempt to prevent the same problems being inherited by the first dedicated multiplayer mechwarrior game.

It ended up being nerfed into harmlessness, but like so many other things PGI has done there was no demand for it and not apparent positive effects. Just a huge waste of development resources and community goodwill for absolutely zero gain.

I don't know about the "like so many other things" the context of a whole sure a few here and there. We can rest assured that the event is more in the joking manner, and will not be emphasized.

It came in, and it went away(not functional), but you know what I mean. However What i was getting at was that while it was a bad move on PGI's part it's was not that big of a deal. From what I remember anyways.

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 03 September 2016 - 07:13 AM, said:

Hi lil buddy

still acting like a child i see. Grow up dude.

Ohh wait he can't see my post, guy must really be slow on the learning curb, that even though he has my post blocked he feels the need to respond to post he can't see.

Freaking hilarious

[Monkey Lover]

When I started the game I ran a spider in 3pv until I got more used to the game. I felt I did fine of course it was the days of the unkillable spider hehe.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Sjorpha, on 03 September 2016 - 07:04 AM, said:

Just a huge waste of development resources and community goodwill for absolutely zero gain.

People like me get lambasted when I point this out. While It was probably a waste of resources, The "community goodwill is really giving some people here too much credit. I would hold that somebody who is reasonable will look at that and say, Yea what a waste and earned a bit of ire, but that needs to be contrasted with other things they have done.

I never understood the common phenomena of somebody picking and choosing the bits of information they will accept as to affect their "good will". What effects it? how is it determined? and if their are things that lower it, are their not things that can raise it. That is a honest question to ask.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 03 September 2016 - 07:25 AM.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Monkey Lover, on 03 September 2016 - 07:21 AM, said:

When I started the game I ran a spider in 3pv until I got more used to the game. I felt I did fine of course it was the days of the unkillable spider hehe.

well when the mech is invulnerable...

[Agent1190]

Wow, this is supposed to be a fun, wonky event. None of the challenge items really make sense. Can' we all just take off our ***** hats and just have fun? If you don' t like it ,don't go for that reward. Or maybe, you know, challenge yourself and see if you can make it work.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Agent1190, on 03 September 2016 - 07:27 AM, said:

Wow, this is supposed to be a fun, wonky event. None of the challenge items really make sense. Can' we all just take off our ***** hats and just have fun? If you don' t like it ,don't go for that reward. Or maybe, you know, challenge yourself and see if you can make it work.

well no, because you know.....PGI

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Actually, I think I figured part of it out, we're testing 3pv.

Instead of asking ppl to test it out on the PTS, we're testing it for fun

[BLOOD WOLF]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 03 September 2016 - 07:34 AM, said:

Actually, I think I figured part of it out, we're testing 3pv.

Instead of asking ppl to test it out on the PTS, we're testing it for fun

some people are going to take this too literally.

[Green Mamba]

Single Player campaign like the old MW titles would helped more than either tutorial or 3rd PV like we have now.When I played those games I would run the game story a few times through playing different factions and play styles and builds before ever going online MP,By the end of the 4th playthrough or so I knew how to build the mechs,pilot them and was accurate with the weapons.It was worlds better than what we have now with new players not understanding the controls.Yes there is no substitute for Live players vs. playing against AI but was much closer to problem free .Never had this problem in the older MW games.

[Davers]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 03 September 2016 - 07:34 AM, said:

Actually, I think I figured part of it out, we're testing 3pv.

Instead of asking ppl to test it out on the PTS, we're testing it for fun

Honestly this is probably the most thorough "test" it has ever gotten from the players.

I don't know why BW feels the need to add commentary to all your posts. It's kind of creepy, and might qualify as harassment.