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[Tombs Clawtooth]

Am I the only person sitting back and saying to myself: "This is a whole lot of fixin' things that ain't broken"

Tons of arbitrary number jumblin', rebalancin' things that aren't an issue on live, and introducing new mechanics that break that fine balance that took so many years (allegedly) to achieve.

Wouldn't it make far more sense to not change any mechanics besides having energy draw visualize the current values for ghost heat, and provide the values that generate ghost heat on the weapon stats?

If balance and short TTK are a concern, I think that would be better addressed at a later point instead of spoiling a solid potential implementation of a visualization for ghost heat.

[Mole]

Tombs Clawtooth, on 16 September 2016 - 03:38 PM, said:

Am I the only person sitting back and saying to myself: "This is a whole lot of fixin' things that ain't broken"

Tons of arbitrary number jumblin', rebalancin' things that aren't an issue on live, and introducing new mechanics that break that fine balance that took so many years (allegedly) to achieve.

Wouldn't it make far more sense to not change any mechanics besides having energy draw visualize the current values for ghost heat, and provide the values that generate ghost heat on the weapon stats?

If balance and short TTK are a concern, I think that would be better addressed at a later point instead of spoiling a solid potential implementation of a visualization for ghost heat.

I see your point, but PGI.

[FupDup]

Speaking of the devil, the Clam and IS LPL's just got smacked again by PTS5.

The Nerfinator said:

Large Pulse Laser
• Damage decreased to 8 (from 9)
• Energy Consumption decreased to 8 (from 8.1)
• Cooldown Duration decreased to 3.2 (from 3.5)

Clan Large Pulse Laser
• Damage decreased to 10 (from 11)
• Heat decreased to 9 (from 10)
• Energy Consumption increased to 10 (from 9.9)
• Cooldown Duration decreased to 3.2 (from 3.5)

[Mechteric]

Tombs Clawtooth, on 16 September 2016 - 03:38 PM, said:

Am I the only person sitting back and saying to myself: "This is a whole lot of fixin' things that ain't broken"

Except ghost heat is broken, so yes it needs done sooner or later

[Mole]

FupDup, on 16 September 2016 - 04:19 PM, said:

Speaking of the devil, the Clam and IS LPL's just got smacked again by PTS5.

Well cool. I see they're trying real hard to bring back the PPC/Gauss meta.

[El Bandito]

Deathlike, on 16 September 2016 - 07:04 AM, said:

I'm sure the Dartboard of Balance™ will make more regular appearances regardless if GHv2/ED goes live.

I hope PGI will retain 1.5 heat for the AC5s regardless of ED or not. The 2.3 second CD however, should be reduced.

[Idealsuspect]

ScoutMaster, on 16 September 2016 - 07:33 AM, said:

You don't seem to realize that .05 seconds and 1 damage is practically no difference at all. There is no reason to waste 2 tons and an extra slot for it.

If it was only this guy who don't seem to realise what is wrong it could be okay but he isn't alone...

Full PGI crew don't realise what is wrong too ... and they are in charge of final balance
Well another 2 years of balance will come with new weapon system GH 2 or ED or other name whatever 2 years of fun

[Kangarad]

FupDup, on 16 September 2016 - 04:19 PM, said:

Speaking of the devil, the Clam and IS LPL's just got smacked again by PTS5.

atleast now clans willbe able to use 3 lpl's without ghost heat. ow.

[FupDup]

Kangarad, on 16 September 2016 - 06:25 PM, said:

atleast now clans willbe able to use 3 lpl's without ghost heat. ow.

The PTS 3x Clan LPL is inferior to 2x LPL on the live servers in almost all aspects. You gain +4 damage and 0.05s faster cooldown on the PTS, but lose 6 tons, 2 slots, 7 heat, 0.08s beam duration, and 360m max range.

It's a very substantial downgrade.

[Commander A9]

ER Large Laser generates too much heat, I believe.

[Saint Scarlett Johan]

I keep seeing ED and thinking Erectile Dysfunction.

Am I the only one?

[Mole]

Saint Scarlett Johan, on 16 September 2016 - 09:20 PM, said:

I keep seeing ED and thinking Erectile Dysfunction.

Am I the only one?

Sounds like an accurate description of PGI's attempts at balance to me.

[DerMaulwurf]

FupDup, on 16 September 2016 - 08:03 PM, said:

The PTS 3x Clan LPL is inferior to 2x LPL on the live servers in almost all aspects. You gain +4 damage and 0.05s faster cooldown on the PTS, but lose 6 tons, 2 slots, 7 heat, 0.08s beam duration, and 360m max range.

It's a very substantial downgrade.

To add insult to injury, you can fire 3 cLPLs now. Eat the GH penalty and you still have a very similar heat efficiency to the PTS. All while having much better damage per tick/alpha.

[Deathlike]

DerMaulwurf, on 16 September 2016 - 11:25 PM, said:

To add insult to injury, you can fire 3 cLPLs now. Eat the GH penalty and you still have a very similar heat efficiency to the PTS. All while having much better damage per tick/alpha.

At that point, you are better off running CERLL on the PTS due to the buffs, instead of using the CLPL altogether.

Edited by Deathlike, 17 September 2016 - 04:33 AM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Deathlike, on 17 September 2016 - 04:33 AM, said:

At that point, you are better off running CERLL on the PTS due to the buffs, instead of using the CLPL altogether.

I am runninf 3LP on my highlander IIC, with 2xUac10 and a lrm 15
firing 3LP at the same time gives me 42% heat, but can't fire them in sync with my Uacs

Even with chain fire, I can't fire simultaneously.

I can get away with 2 lrgpulse alpha's but will run too hot to use anything else and I will leave myself vulnerable till i cool down.

You can, but it just depends on the player to make it work

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 17 September 2016 - 06:38 AM.

[Deathlike]

BLOOD WOLF, on 17 September 2016 - 06:37 AM, said:

I am runninf 3LP on my highlander IIC, with 2xUac10 and a lrm 15
firing 3LP at the same time gives me 42% heat, but can't fire them in sync with my Uacs

Even with chain fire, I can't fire simultaneously.

I can get away with 2 lrgpulse alpha's but will run too hot to use anything else and I will leave myself vulnerable till i cool down.

You can, but it just depends on the player to make it work

Without spending much time on your build, that's a terrible build.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Deathlike, on 17 September 2016 - 01:00 PM, said:

Without spending much time on your build, that's a terrible build.

ok....... It's not.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 17 September 2016 - 02:45 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

Messing around on PTS...cERLL are crazy good. 30 damage at 814 meters running cold all day everyday with a reasonable burn time and a ~3 second cool-down after skills and module...yeah, no, that's not going to fly. That's stupidly powerful. Cool-down needs to be longer.

And while we're at it, PGI needs to drop the idea that pulse are for DPS. That's not their forte. Their forte is dumping the damage quicker. Focus on that.

[Lostdragon]

BLOOD WOLF, on 17 September 2016 - 02:45 PM, said:

ok....... It's not.

Yes huh.

[BLOOD WOLF]

Lostdragon, on 17 September 2016 - 04:27 PM, said:

Yes huh.

wanna go on the PTS.

been trying and seen tons of builds. Depends on the person really.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 17 September 2016 - 04:40 PM.