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[Jaeger Gonzo]

I think sundays are best. Most people are in home traditionally in that day.
Taking care of family or hangover.

[Scout Derek]

was possibly considering the idea of a discord server as someone already said earlier.

I've set one up already (sort of). lemme know if it's green to go on such for all.

[TygerLily]

UltraMek, on 24 September 2016 - 03:20 PM, said:

How many came out sergey?

I would be OK with mondays, what do you think Tygerlily?

I am down for whatever. Feel free to make as many recurring events, special events, etc. If you all want Wednesday and Monday that's good too, =)

As long as you all message me with a time and Teamspeak, I'll throw it on the calendar!

SMM is like reverse-Field of Dreams: If you come, they will build it. xD

Edited by TygerLily, 24 September 2016 - 08:00 PM.

[Sergey Kosinskiy]

UltraMek, on 24 September 2016 - 03:20 PM, said:

How many came out sergey?

I would be OK with mondays, what do you think Tygerlily?

Not as much as i hoped, but a lot more than in last days of SMM, our max was 8vs9 and most of the time we were o7v7 or 8vs8.

Edited by Sergey Kosinskiy, 24 September 2016 - 08:50 PM.

[ImagineDwagons]

You might have warned me that there is no need to revert mechs back to stock variants. I've spent all my cbills )
Other than that the event was wanderful! Micromanaging 3-5 groups for weapons of different range and struggling with overheat are quite challenging. Piloting stock mechs is for real men!

one suggestion:
- there are still some cheesy mechs even in Tech level 1. How about limit these mech variants by 1 per each side? For example, one Marauder 3R and one Yen Lo Wang per each side max?

Edited by EvgenS, 25 September 2016 - 02:47 AM.

[Sergey Kosinskiy]

EvgenS, on 25 September 2016 - 02:46 AM, said:

You might have warned me that there is no need to revert mechs back to stock variants. I've spent all my cbills )
Other than that the event was wanderful! Micromanaging 3-5 groups for weapons of different range and struggling with overheat are quite challenging. Piloting stock mechs is for real men!

one suggestion:
- there are still some cheesy mechs even in Tech level 1. How about limit these mech variants by 1 per each side? For example, one Marauder 3R and one Yen Lo Wang per each side max?

Yes, next time we probably gonna allow only one version of one mech per team. 3 Marauder on one side is a little unbalanced.

[UltraMek]

EvgenS, on 25 September 2016 - 02:46 AM, said:

You might have warned me that there is no need to revert mechs back to stock variants. I've spent all my cbills )
Other than that the event was wanderful! Micromanaging 3-5 groups for weapons of different range and struggling with overheat are quite challenging. Piloting stock mechs is for real men!

one suggestion:
- there are still some cheesy mechs even in Tech level 1. How about limit these mech variants by 1 per each side? For example, one Marauder 3R and one Yen Lo Wang per each side max?

You should have read the patch notes! that was the whole point of restarting the event haha.

and I think we are going to ban hero mechs.

Edited by UltraMek, 25 September 2016 - 04:38 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

UltraMek, on 25 September 2016 - 04:38 AM, said:

You should have read the patch notes! that was the whole point of restarting the event haha.

and I think we are going to ban hero mechs.

back in the day I think the YLW was the only legal one anyhow. I'll be sad if it's banned, but not devastated.

[Cato Phoenix]

Straith, on 21 September 2016 - 08:01 PM, said:

Some footage I captured using Shadowplay

It's big and green, and it Stock mode it's mean ... Highlander 733C!

[Jaeger Gonzo]

EvgenS, on 25 September 2016 - 02:46 AM, said:

one suggestion:
- there are still some cheesy mechs even in Tech level 1. How about limit these mech variants by 1 per each side? For example, one Marauder 3R and one Yen Lo Wang per each side max?

All heros should be banned.
They are custom meks after all, just that they present in the books. It`s one for a universe of this, so yeah, I would ban them. I don`t like idea either that you can bay them for $ and cheese us. Save them for your Full Custom playing.

Marauders are fine thought. As soon as you realize they weak point, you will not struggle against them anymore.

The thing is that PPC should have ghost heat lowered to 2, or chain fire. To polish balance. But I`m not sure if rules would be honored, like chain fire for PPC by our community. PGI made PPC little too cool as well, which is little unbalancing factor for Stock Mode.

Edited by Jaeger Gonzo, 25 September 2016 - 04:17 PM.

[Crotch RockIt]

I disagree that Tech 1 hero mechs (or any Tech 1 mechs) should be banned or limited, but I guess I'm in the minority.

[Glaive-]

Shouldn't cannon hero mechs stay? Like the Butterbee and the Yen Lo Wang
Although the MC only nature of the mech is indeed somewhat of a problem.
Probably the best way to deal with it is to just ban them based upon the overall vote of the particular group of players in the match.

[Jaeger Gonzo]

Crotch RockIt, on 25 September 2016 - 06:01 PM, said:

I disagree that Tech 1 hero mechs (or any Tech 1 mechs) should be banned or limited, but I guess I'm in the minority.

I did not really enjoyed view of spam of the Butter Bees, Yen Los etc.
I did`t even knew what this meks are, and what to expect until they showed up on my scanner screen.

If I would be picky... I would say. They are banned already, don`t see any of this on the mek lists.
Mention about it on the list could be a nice touch, thought.

Many folks mentioned about premium BS cheese on the TS.
So yeah, while you enjoy your premium $ cheese meks, rest of us not so much.

armyunit, on 25 September 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

Probably the best way to deal with it is to just ban them based upon the overall vote of the particular group of players in the match.

How about we reverse the coin and ban them, unless group vote different for their game.
So they would be banned by default, unless somebody ask for one and succeed on voting.


On the other note, it seams like half of the hero meks are not cannon, just PGI invention.
So yeah, again. Ban PGIs custom hero meks please.

Edited by Jaeger Gonzo, 25 September 2016 - 09:58 PM.

[TygerLily]

I say leave them.

1) Reduces confusion .

2) There is no way to eliminate a meta. Any version of any game will have imbalances that players will exploit. Stock Mechs let you avoid the nightly meta but subjects you to another. Everyone ask themselves why they aren't piloting the Cicada 3C... And, imo, avoiding the meta isn't the point of stocks. Playing something that isn't what we've played for years is. It's not superior to the regular MWO experience... Just another way to play (one that feels slower placed, more emphasis on heat and "finding" Mechs rather than creating them, etc...all that, imo, makes stock vs stock feel more BattleTech)

3) There are LOTS of equal alternatives to the Heroes. Yen-Lo has competition from Cent AH or Hunchy 4G. Butter Bee and Top Dog stand apart but within 10 tons...Top Dog has to contend with the Grasshopper 5H or Black Knight 7KNTL and the Butter Bee actually has the Kintaro 18 which brings 3SRM6 and 2ML...(PS we saw the Butter Bee kicking a lot of *** last time not because it's a Hero but because Abigail is a great pilot lol)

And if you're that worried about a Mech, focus it down first! That rule also carries over from regular MWO...

Edited by TygerLily, 26 September 2016 - 12:28 PM.

[Jaeger Gonzo]

Its not even that much about balance.
Its just not fun to face, spam of the heros.

[TygerLily]

Clan Mech list added and a bunch of fixes with help from Tarogato. Thanks dude!

Tarogato, on 22 September 2016 - 12:05 AM, said:

[Tarogato]

I'm in favour of heroes being banned or limited (max 1 per team).

No real reason. Just they are a mix of canon and non-cannon, and I rather like the idea of sticking to canon. (I would say same goes for Piranha variants, but those are harder to enforce so it is what it is.)

[Solahma]

I added every IS stock mech build to my BuildStats spreadsheet for science. Now you can compare any stat you'd like.

I also added the ability to enable each mech's efficiencies or quirks with a (Y/N).

If you're purely interested in each mechs overall stats, you can use the RATINGS tabs. There is one for each of four combinations:
Quirks = No, Efficiencies = No
Quirks = No, Efficiencies = Yes
Quirks = Yes, Efficiencies = No
Quirks = Yes, Efficiencies = Yes

Followed by a comparison tab where you can see the delta change comparing stats from any of those four.

Anyway, hope this helps everyone pick a solid performer and/or understand how some stock mechs will perform with or without quirks!

Original file for use with Excel:
https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing

GoogleDocs version:
https://docs.google....dit?usp=sharing

EDIT: I also created PDFs for those four tabs you can download here:
https://drive.google...Q0k?usp=sharing

Edited by Solahma, 28 September 2016 - 05:04 PM.

[TygerLily]

Tonight's operation is live! Get your asses in the dropship!

ts.clanjadefalcon.com

[SilentScreamer]

Thanks for the matches tonight, I had a great time. Sorry I had to leave after just three, but I did record. Enjoy!

Alpine- in which I fall off the mountain - https://youtu.be/bwEv6Yra9Lg
Viridian - help, my mech is a stick! - https://youtu.be/e0Vd-zsV_w8
Tourmaline - shouldn't have left override "On".... - https://youtu.be/2lquyqyYG_M

Edited by SilentScreamer, 04 November 2016 - 08:40 AM.