Why Not Suicide?
#1
Posted 25 October 2016 - 01:34 PM
#3
Posted 25 October 2016 - 01:43 PM
Ex Atlas Overlord, on 25 October 2016 - 01:42 PM, said:
Yes, PGI will ban you for using over ride and dying in a fight.
Don't ask me why using a feature they put in the game, for it's intended purpose is ban worthy..... but it is.
Seriously? That's dumb. Like, really dumb. Okay then, I guess I'll stop using it.
#4
Posted 25 October 2016 - 01:49 PM
Mole, on 25 October 2016 - 01:43 PM, said:
Seriously? That's dumb. Like, really dumb. Okay then, I guess I'll stop using it.
I think it just counts against your penalty timer for dc's and tks. As long as you aren't suiciding every match, you probably won't have a problem. I could be wrong though.
#5
Posted 25 October 2016 - 01:51 PM
But really, they don't consider it a bannable offense, do they? You don't even need to override, if you generate enough heat. Surely they wouldn't put a feature into the game and then ban people who use it.
#6
Posted 25 October 2016 - 01:53 PM
#7
Posted 25 October 2016 - 01:55 PM
#8
Posted 25 October 2016 - 02:04 PM
Suiciding by walking into the enemy team just because you hate the map choice, intentionally avoiding combat to walk out of bounds, overheating to death because of X reason that you feel the need to express in salt... that's reportable.
#9
Posted 25 October 2016 - 02:20 PM
Ex Atlas Overlord, on 25 October 2016 - 01:42 PM, said:
Yes, PGI will ban you for using over ride and dying in a fight.
Don't ask me why using a feature they put in the game, for it's intended purpose is ban worthy..... but it is.
I call total BS on this.
State your source, and quote it here (with link) or admit you're talking out of your exhaust port and retract this claim.
It is NOT bannable to hit override and go out in a blaze of glory.
#10
Posted 25 October 2016 - 02:41 PM
I always keep override on if I am surrounded or trying to clean up cookies. I probably die in 1 of every 10 matches because of this while in combat. If they can not kill me before I overheat, this is not my fault, and I usually get an extra 30-60 damage or more depending etc etc.
#11
Posted 25 October 2016 - 02:42 PM
OldOrgandonor, on 25 October 2016 - 02:20 PM, said:
I call total BS on this.
State your source, and quote it here (with link) or admit you're talking out of your exhaust port and retract this claim.
It is NOT bannable to hit override and go out in a blaze of glory.
Yeah I have to agree. If I know I am screwed anyway I want to be to overrride the shutdown and keep firing in the hopes of taking one with me. Big difference in that then running out of bounds or going off in a corner and overheating.
#12
Posted 25 October 2016 - 02:45 PM
I always hit override if I recognize I'm not going to make it out alive. And I'd say even take considerable pride if I manage to overheat-suicide seconds before I would've died anyway.
#13
Posted 25 October 2016 - 03:03 PM
jss78, on 25 October 2016 - 02:45 PM, said:
I always hit override if I recognize I'm not going to make it out alive. And I'd say even take considerable pride if I manage to overheat-suicide seconds before I would've died anyway.
Makes me itch every time my ac/20 lands on a recently dead corpse, but I get over it pretty quickly.
#14
Posted 25 October 2016 - 03:19 PM
if it kills you, that's not report-able
running away from the enemy firing your guns to over heat avoiding them till you suicide
that's report-able, its the same as time wasters who try to preserve their KDR.... non participation
killing your self because you don't like the map also report-able
killing your self to exploit some bug is also report-able
you have nothing to worry about if your using it appropriately (as you have described)
however
do not delude your self into thinking that you are some how denying the enemy points or anything
anyone who has shot you, even if its just 1pt of damage gets a full payout on the assist for your death
the guy who did the most damage gets the assist AND a KMDD score + the value of any taken components
an assist + KMDD is worth more than a solo kill
dealing your maximum damage is something you can be proud of
but don't think for one second that the enemy is upset or has lost anything
#15
Posted 25 October 2016 - 03:20 PM
Such as suiciding ( running off map) when you are still able to fight.
Simply heating override while fighting isn't bannable.
#19
Posted 25 October 2016 - 03:35 PM
Bilbo, on 25 October 2016 - 03:31 PM, said:
why not go to CoC. It's down at the bottom page here. >.>
GRIEFING
Engaging in any of the following actions while using PGI services is forbidden:
- Willfully or repeatedly destroying teammates.
- Willfully or repeatedly damaging your teammates.
- Willfully or repeatedly self-destructing one’s ‘Mech, either by overheating, going out-of-bounds, or committing some other form of suicide or intending to cause abnormally early death.
- Willfully or repeatedly disconnecting from a match.
- Willfully or repeatedly blocking teammate ‘Mechs or weapon trajectories.
- Willfully or repeatedly assisting the enemy.
- Taunting, baiting, or otherwise encouraging players to violate the Code of Conduct.
Willfully means a voluntary, intentional violation of a known legal duty. In other words, the defendant must have acted voluntarily and intentionally and with the specific intent to do something that the law forbids; that is to say, with a purpose either to disobey or disregard the law.
taking the definition and the CoC, we can say that going into battle and overheating, which leads to suiciding, is not against the CoC.
Edited by Scout Derek, 25 October 2016 - 03:37 PM.
#20
Posted 25 October 2016 - 03:51 PM
Scout Derek, on 25 October 2016 - 03:35 PM, said:
why not go to CoC. It's down at the bottom page here. >.>
GRIEFING
Engaging in any of the following actions while using PGI services is forbidden:
- Willfully or repeatedly destroying teammates.
- Willfully or repeatedly damaging your teammates.
- Willfully or repeatedly self-destructing one’s ‘Mech, either by overheating, going out-of-bounds, or committing some other form of suicide or intending to cause abnormally early death.
- Willfully or repeatedly disconnecting from a match.
- Willfully or repeatedly blocking teammate ‘Mechs or weapon trajectories.
- Willfully or repeatedly assisting the enemy.
- Taunting, baiting, or otherwise encouraging players to violate the Code of Conduct.
Willfully means a voluntary, intentional violation of a known legal duty. In other words, the defendant must have acted voluntarily and intentionally and with the specific intent to do something that the law forbids; that is to say, with a purpose either to disobey or disregard the law.
taking the definition and the CoC, we can say that going into battle and overheating, which leads to suiciding, is not against the CoC.
You can bring up the CoC all you want, it obviously doesn't answer the question for the few forum goers that bother to start or answer these threads. This argument has been going on longer than the game is dying arguments. All you can really say is that, if you are acting in good faith, you probably won't have anything to worry about.
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