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MechaBattler, on 26 October 2016 - 06:01 PM, said:

Basically the community is reacting to ED changes with "Don't nerf my favorite builds!"

Maybe I'm an anarchist. But honestly I want them to turn the meta on it's head. Then I can drink up the tears of people as they have to scramble to find the new meta.

No scramble. Anyone paying attention to the PTS already knows it. I would give it maybe 1 week tops until the "new meta" is solidified and in common public use.

[MechaBattler]

Gas Guzzler, on 26 October 2016 - 06:02 PM, said:

Well... they said something similar about collisions and infotech... so... there is hope.



Actually much of the meta wouldn't change, but mediocre mechs would get kicked to the curb for good.

Which mechs and why?

Boogie138, on 26 October 2016 - 06:03 PM, said:

No scramble. Anyone paying attention to the PTS already knows it. I would give it maybe 1 week tops until the "new meta" is solidified and in common public use.

There's always a trickle down effect. Some people will be caught off guard. It'll be interesting to see how those people react.

Edited by MechaBattler, 26 October 2016 - 06:05 PM.

[RestosIII]

MechaBattler, on 26 October 2016 - 06:01 PM, said:

Basically the community is reacting to ED changes with "Don't nerf my favorite builds!"

Maybe I'm an anarchist. But honestly I want them to turn the meta on it's head. Then I can drink up the tears of people as they have to scramble to find the new meta.

If ED comes out, my Timber Wolf Prime lore loadout becomes a walking death trap. I know where I am going if my lore builds die.

[Mole]

Bombast, on 26 October 2016 - 05:58 PM, said:

...It's the pilot.

Oh wait, yeah. And he's got that alien seed smuggled in his butt and it dissolves and makes him start convulsing at the end. I remember that now.

Edited by Mole, 26 October 2016 - 06:07 PM.

[Kaptain]

Niiice

[Gas Guzzler]

MechaBattler, on 26 October 2016 - 06:04 PM, said:

Which mechs and why?



There's always a trickle down effect. Some people will be caught off guard. It'll be interesting to see how those people react.

Mediocre mechs?
Any Clan laser vomit
Any build combining UACs and lasers
Black Knight
Anything with SRMs and lasers

Basically, if your a medium, you take 2 cER PPCs, if your a heavy, you take PPFLD or dakka, if you an assault, you take PPFLD and dakka, only for the KDK-3, you fire your Gauss and ER PPCs separately which is necessary at range anyway.

If you are a light, you are unaffected.

[Andi Nagasia]

well ED is put on hold, i im disappointed,
i still think parts of it are a good idea,

@Gas,
how did you not make this Topic first?

[Gas Guzzler]

Andi Nagasia, on 26 October 2016 - 06:53 PM, said:

well ED is put on hold, i im disappointed,
i still think parts of it are a good idea,

@Gas,
how did you not make this Topic first?

I was too busy adding to my mech packs because I'm so happy that I can continue to enjoy this game.


..and i made a thread about the upcoming balance changes in nov and dec that Russ mentioned.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 26 October 2016 - 07:29 PM.

[Kasumi Sumika]

So ED isn't winning the war?

[El Bandito]

RestosIII, on 26 October 2016 - 05:19 PM, said:

Just checked Russ' Twitter, and I came upon this gem:



So unless Russ is going to "surprise" us with him suddenly releasing it despite that comment, we have delayed the monster for at least 2 more months! Now all we need to do is find out where its nest is, and deal the finishing blow when it comes out next year to try and feast on our young!

Good, now they can nerf Kodiak-3. Gonna tweet to Russ again.

Andi Nagasia, on 26 October 2016 - 06:53 PM, said:

well ED is put on hold, i im disappointed,
i still think parts of it are a good idea,

I absolutely think the increased 1.5 heat for class 5 ACs is dead on correct. PGI should keep it.

Edited by El Bandito, 26 October 2016 - 07:44 PM.

[RestosIII]

El Bandito, on 26 October 2016 - 07:38 PM, said:

Good, now they can nerf Kodiak-3. Gonna tweet to Russ again.

I already know his response.

Spoiler

Can't tell you anything yet, see you at #MechCon!

Edited by RestosIII, 26 October 2016 - 07:42 PM.

[TLBFestus]

Has anyone checked on BloodWolf?

I'm talkin' SEIZURES of APOPLEXY here......

[Snowbluff]

What? Lame! Listen, most of the arguing over PD is nonsense. It's going to happen, and until it does we have the half assed Ghost Heat.

And I don't get the "I have to remake my garage" argument. Everyone but pretty much lights will be hit. DPS will be down universally. PPFLD will be down universally. And the opportunity to build new robots is always welcome to me.

Edited by Snowbluff, 26 October 2016 - 08:00 PM.

[DAYLEET]

What other choice do we have to severely limit both the Alpha and DPS for heavies and assault?

Serious question.

[Snowbluff]

I'm not so worried about balance (except I know KDK 3 will be balanced).

But that's the precise problem. I will be worried about balance if KDK 3 got a stopgap, which was retain in the balance limbo waiting for PD and then the months afterwards when its being hotfixed. :s

[Xmith]

Gas Guzzler, on 26 October 2016 - 05:43 PM, said:

Dude we have thought about this ALOT. Its not about adapting, its about the resulting game, and not wanting to play that game.

Its like, a significant amount of mechs won't even be worth piloting.. If you are feeling a gameplay change, you can play another game for a while right?

Well, I have a lot of mechs. But 99% of the time I only pilot a KDK.

Most of the mechs I do have are really just collector's item. There are only a select few I will pilot. Therefore I'm not concerned with the one's I don't pilot. I will only be working with 6-8 mechs. I'll get to the others one of these days, who knows, not much of a concern at this point.

I'm looking forward to blasting shut down mechs with pilots who are too stubborn to learn new tricks boss.

[GRiPSViGiL]

...and we are to expect something ground breaking for Mechcon? LOL. ED was the only game changing thing on the horizon. I guess the shills and whales are still buying enough mech packs for them to bother improving the game (not that I considered ED an improvement).

Such ineptitude by them. Same ole same ole.

[xe N on]

So, we have Episode 2: Return of the Alpha Warrior Online ...

ED was not well done but a step into the right direction. Ghost heat just plain failed in archiving anything it originally intended.

8 ML = 30 damage = ghost heat
6 ML + 2LPL = 52 damage = no ghost heat

Can you find the logic?

[GRiPSViGiL]

TLBFestus, on 26 October 2016 - 07:55 PM, said:

Has anyone checked on BloodWolf?

I'm talkin' SEIZURES of APOPLEXY here......

[RestosIII]

xe N on, on 26 October 2016 - 08:17 PM, said:

So, we have Episode 2: Return of the Alpha Warrior Online ...

ED was not well done but a step into the right direction. Ghost heat just plain failed in archiving anything it originally intended.

8 ML = 30 damage = ghost heat
6 ML + 2LPL = 52 damage = no ghost heat

Can you find the logic?

No, but can you find the logic in LRMs and AC's both draining from a reactor, and magically generating new heat when they fire within a period of each other? Because I definately can't.