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[Arugela]

I was looking at some atlas and thought I would get the DDC for the ECM.

How is this build:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...dc8e3f25fca3abe
or
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c02f060b8181658

I'm going to assume everyone will tell me not to get the machine gun version. But it has higher DPS from the machine gun and those are all close ranged weapons. 8.01DPS vs 7.21DPS without the PPCs fireing. Although, obviously the none machine gun gets better ammo.

I can juggle around ammo. Those are just showing basic tonnage.

Edited by Arugela, 30 October 2016 - 05:08 AM.

[Recon Strike]

It's very hot, and you don't have enough ammo on any of those two builds. You are better off specializing than trying to cram two roles into one mech.

If you want range, use a gauss instead of the AC and ditch the missiles. Or ditch the PPC's for a couple of large lasers, swap the srms for lrm 5's and mount two ac 5's instead of the short range AC20.

But by far the most popular and arguably best build is AC20, 3xASRM6 and 2xML. Using ecm to get close without being detected or at least to take less damage while closing the distance.

[radiv]

Ur builds are slow, hot and take off the machinegun. Its **** when you fire it and you wont be firering it much.
On my ddc iam not sure about bringing med pulse lasers in the arms, cus that means i facetank more instead of twisting.
I can start twisting while firering but then i get half duration of hit for full heat, and i aint sure if its worth it.

One last thing 300 engine is ****, its not good to move at whale speed.

[TercieI]

Those builds are not salvageable without complete restarts for a number of fundamental reasons, so I'll just go with something so utterly fundamental I don't even think of it as a rule of mech building, merely a given:

DOUBLE HEAT SINKS ARE NOT OPTIONAL IN MWO

Edited by TercieI, 31 October 2016 - 07:28 AM.

[Recon Strike]

TercieI, on 31 October 2016 - 07:26 AM, said:

Those builds are not salvageable without complete restarts for a number of fundamental reasons, so I'll just go with something so utterly fundamental I don't even think of it as a rule of mech building, merely a given:

DOUBLE HEAT SINKS ARE NOT OPTIONAL IN MWO

Oh dear... I completely missed that. But yea, I couldn't agree more. I will not even go into testing grounds before upgrading to DHS.

[Alienized]

3 lrm10+ artemis, 2 uac5 2 mlas.
doesnt go fast, doesnt need to be fast.
lrms for the move, uac's for the finish.

works.

[Smokeyjedi]

3 lrm5 2LL 2AC5 works great manages heat very well...ECM and seismic module.......can effectively damage trgts 900M+ but can skill rip the legs off of lights that will come for you...........they just follow the trail of lrm5s to their deaths.

Edited by Smokeyjedi, 31 October 2016 - 10:20 AM.

[TercieI]

Two people have now seriously suggested LRM Atlases.

Yep, time for another forum break.

[Jay Leon Hart]

The AS7 has some of the best structure quirks in the game, use them to your advantage and get in the face of your enemies!

I'd build it like an AS7-S - something like this
You could drop the Command Console for a slightly bigger engine and more ammo, but you have enough for ~28 Alphas already and don't really gain much speed.

If you really want to use PPCs, then maybe this although it seems like a waste of the chassis.

2x LB 10-X 2x LPL?

(Front/Rear armour values not accurate)

UAC5s seems like a waste too - pity you can't fit 2x AC10s to sync the range with 2xLLs

[Recon Strike]

TercieI, on 31 October 2016 - 10:25 AM, said:

Two people have now seriously suggested LRM Atlases.

Yep, time for another forum break.

I don't think 2LL, 2AC5, 3LRM5 technically qualifies as an LRM atlas though.. it's just a support weapon in that config and only takes up a small ammount of available tonnage. You can argue all you want, but that build works well to control the battlefield while shielding friendlies with ecm. It can be a nice relaxing build for pugs...

But anything larger than lrm5's or LRM's as main armament are not done, I agree. But in the mentioned config you're still going to need to be on the front lines, just not necessarily within 270m of the enemy.

[CD0UG]

my best atlas BY FAR! pulled 1299 damage last night. i know thats not every match but still..

2 lbx10 with a 540 range and with cooldown shoot so fast its awesome, the 3 srm 6 for back up when close

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...334f657db4f0b1a

shoot srm in a brawl, but when around 80% heat, u can just sustain the lxbs all day

[Darkhorse13Golf]

You have to get those double heat sinks. That's pretty much a standard rule on any 'Mech. I would also switch those PPC's for Large Lasers. They run cooler for one thing and they don't have a minimum range where they are useless like standard PPCs do. You could also swap the PPC's for Large Pulses as well. The Large Pulses hit harder and have less duration but the standard Large Lasers are lighter, run cooler and have a longer range. You can use the saved weight to add heatsinks, ammo or even upgrade the engine a bit.

Now what you got right was using a standard engine for the durability and using SRM-4s is a good choice since they have a faster cooldown time and tighter spread, which can actually make for a more effective DPS the the SRM-6. Now I use SRM-6s on my Atlas but it is a matter of personal preference. Basically Double Heat Sinks and Endo Steel Skeletons are no brainers on any 'Mech and since you seem to be going for a brawl type build switch out the PPCs for Large Lasers or Large Pulses. As someone said earlier you shouldn't try to cram too many roles on a chassis. While there are a FEW chassis you can multirole with, the Atlas DDC isn't one of them.

Edited by Darkhorse13Golf, 07 November 2016 - 06:41 PM.

[TheLuc]

A suggestion for a less one trick pony and more multi-purpose build, its far from meta but holds its own very well.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6c7076ae493db16

[S 0 L E N Y A]

these builds be like

[B L O O D W I T C H]

TercieI, on 31 October 2016 - 10:25 AM, said:

Two people have now seriously suggested LRM Atlases.

Yep, time for another forum break.

Terciel's D-DC

[TercieI]

Toha Heavy Industries, on 02 November 2016 - 01:22 PM, said:

Terciel's D-DC

Why waste all that tonnage on heatsinks?

In all seriousness, this is the only D-DC build I would ever run, but I'd choose this 100 times out of 100 for the same job.

Edited by TercieI, 02 November 2016 - 01:31 PM.

[B L O O D W I T C H]

TercieI, on 02 November 2016 - 01:24 PM, said:

Why waste all that tonnage on heatsinks?

Touché!

I really like the Flamer+PPC synergy!

[TercieI]

Toha Heavy Industries, on 02 November 2016 - 01:31 PM, said:

Touché!

I really like the Flamer+PPC synergy!

Right? With just one of each, you can be mediocre at all ranges!

[justcallme A S H]

TercieI, on 02 November 2016 - 01:24 PM, said:

but I'd choose this 100 times out of 100 for the same job.

CORRECT.

Similar build to me.

The only build for the Atlas. It's a brawler, it's the front line, it is the hammer.

No other mech can output as much damage in as shorter space of time, while still taking an absolute beating.

SHOOT, twist, twist back, SHOOT - repeat over and over. 500dmg, every time without fail.

[FearNotDeath]

TercieI, on 02 November 2016 - 01:24 PM, said:

Why waste all that tonnage on heatsinks?

In all seriousness, this is the only D-DC build I would ever run, but I'd choose this 100 times out of 100 for the same job.

Only good build I've seen posted yet. Follow Terciel's build for your own sake it's above and beyond better than the hodgepodge builds so far.