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[Bombast]

Star Commander Horse, on 06 December 2016 - 03:28 AM, said:

I'll buy MW5M from PGI. But I won't pre-order it. And I will definitely read reviews before making that purchase.

Only idiots pre-order games.

Another sane person? On a BT/MW forum?

The hell is going on here? I thought the fan base was constructed entirely out of *****ing Bettys and mindless loons who would pre-order Mechwarrior branded marital aids made out of carnival glass.

[Lily from animove]

netcode, thats why. Single palyer games allows you features you can't properly synch per network. if they wan't to make it co-op then some features that otherwisely possible would have to be sacrificed for it. Why was MW3 not co.op but able to be played in vs?

So it's cool to have a proper MW5 solo that utilises all features and the mwo part utilising the PVP. Sure some want Co_op but co op is a thing inbetween.

Lupis Volk, on 05 December 2016 - 07:11 PM, said:

Welcome to modern gaming. If it's not multiplayer it's dead to them.

yes like elder scrolls and fallout, all soo dead
I wonder how thes people come to these conclusions, they must have played not many games then.

Edited by Lily from animove, 06 December 2016 - 07:04 AM.

[Bombast]

Lily from animove, on 06 December 2016 - 07:02 AM, said:

yes like elder scrolls and fallout, all soo dead
I wonder how thes people come to these conclusions, they must have played not many games then.

Mandatory multiplayer was the go-to trend until about a year or so ago, with only a few big games bucking the trend. Amusingly, you've listed two of the games that were able to overcome that trend, mostly through the use of colossal IP names (Because seriously, how much bigger does it get then ES and FO).

The go to trend now, of course, is the open world sandbox, which were the games to buck the last trend. But Mechwarrior isn't really a good IP for a sandbox, even Mechwarrior: The RPG (Which this wont be) is better done in a more confined style of game.

[TercieI]

Hillslam, on 05 December 2016 - 09:44 PM, said:

not asking for PVP multiplayer.

Asking for PvE co-op.

There's a difference.

Companies are clueing into it. Except PGI

Still not as many as I'd like, but it seems like such an easy and obvious fit here where many of us have unit mates we'd love to play with. 4v4 ranked queue and 4-man coop are my two big dreams for MWO. Both still waiting.

[Lily from animove]

Bombast, on 06 December 2016 - 07:10 AM, said:

Mandatory multiplayer was the go-to trend until about a year or so ago, with only a few big games bucking the trend. Amusingly, you've listed two of the games that were able to overcome that trend, mostly through the use of colossal IP names (Because seriously, how much bigger does it get then ES and FO).

The go to trend now, of course, is the open world sandbox, which were the games to buck the last trend. But Mechwarrior isn't really a good IP for a sandbox, even Mechwarrior: The RPG (Which this wont be) is better done in a more confined style of game.

trend? theres tons of games being just singleplayer without co-op, just go tot he stema storepage and seek for them

[tenchugecko]

of course you need a coop campaign for mw5

[Bombast]

Lily from animove, on 06 December 2016 - 07:15 AM, said:

trend? theres tons of games being just singleplayer without co-op, just go tot he stema storepage and seek for them

I could go ask you to look at the top selling games from the last 5 years. I could try to explain to you that trends aren't absolute, merely the word given to where the industry as a whole goes. I could mention that that the sheer quantity of games ensures that there will always be at some single player only games.

But I have a feeling that even if there had only been one single player game released in the last 20 years, you'd cling to that like a starving dog and shout 'NO, SINGLE PLAYER IS STILL COMMON, SEE.'

So I wont.

Edited by Bombast, 06 December 2016 - 07:21 AM.

[Lily from animove]

Bombast, on 06 December 2016 - 07:21 AM, said:

I could go ask you to look at the top selling games from the last 5 years. I could try to explain to you that trends aren't absolute, merely the word given to where the industry as a whole goes. I could mention that that the sheer quantity of games ensures that there will always be at some single player only games.

But I have a feeling that even if there had only been one single player game released in the last 20 years, you'd cling to that like a starving dog and shout 'NO, SINGLE PLAYER IS STILL COMMON, SEE.'

So I wont.

get a RL check, your wwords don't make sense, you made it sound like trend goes co-op. while ther eis no trend games are very mixxed, what increased was the MMO version of many sandbox genre games. The rets kept it's stable fair share since the last 10 years. Also, just because a game does have co.op doesn't means everoyne who buys it is palying it co-op. lot's of my freinds who do have co-op game sons team just never played them co-op.

And in reality, there aren't that many games beign true co-op, as in ging through the story together. a lot of these Co-Op's ar actually just MMO's or multiplayer games. And so simply go through steams co op list topseller,s and you won't see that many who are true co-op's. Multiplayer is surely a trend, co.op not so much. it is compared to the multiplayer/MMO and singleplayer part a rather small niche.

[Bombast]

Lily from animove, on 06 December 2016 - 07:33 AM, said:

Spoiler

get a RL check, your wwords don't make sense, you made it sound like trend goes co-op. while ther eis no trend games are very mixxed, what increased was the MMO version of many sandbox genre games. The rets kept it's stable fair share since the last 10 years. Also, just because a game does have co.op doesn't means everoyne who buys it is palying it co-op. lot's of my freinds who do have co-op game sons team just never played them co-op.

And in reality, there aren't that many games beign true co-op, as in ging through the story together. a lot of these Co-Op's ar actually just MMO's or multiplayer games. And so simply go through steams co op list topseller,s and you won't see that many who are true co-op's. Multiplayer is surely a trend, co.op not so much. it is compared to the multiplayer/MMO and singleplayer part a rather small niche.

Lily from animove, on 06 December 2016 - 07:02 AM, said:

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Welcome to modern gaming. If it's not multiplayer it's dead to them.

yes like elder scrolls and fallout, all soo dead
I wonder how thes people come to these conclusions, they must have played not many games then.

This is what I'm responding to. I haven't the slightest idea what you're going on about.

Also, MW3 didn't have co-op because it is positively ancient. Which isn't to say it should have had it, only that it's a really ****** example.

[Anunknownlurker]

Why is there no co-op? Because MW5 is going to be a single player game. I am very happy with that concept.

I want a game with big, stompy robots where I can play through a campaign, by myself, in my spare time without anyone interfering in my fun.

When I want to play with friends I will play MWO until that is replaced by something else.

[Darkside99x]

Just so long as it doesnt require net connection to play, id rather still be able to play it after pgi is dead and gone.

[BattleBunny]

MW4 campaign was fun. I always dreamed of a coop campaign I could play with friends. To fight over who gets to use the one salvaged clan large pulse laser we just picked up.

If it isnt coop I am not buying it.

[AnimosityMonk]

Star Commander Horse, on 06 December 2016 - 03:28 AM, said:

I'll buy MW5M from PGI. But I won't pre-order it. And I will definitely read reviews before making that purchase.

Only idiots pre-order games.

And only an idiot would buy from PGI.

[Felio]

cazidin, on 05 December 2016 - 07:45 PM, said:

MW:V should have the option for a LAN game. Make it a TRUE classic.

I think you mean a serial port (null modem) option.

[Hunka Junk]

It's not going to feature co-op until they port it to the XBOX 3.14 and the PS5. The good news is that once these ports are complete, Russ plans to revisit faction play.

[Felio]

50 50, on 05 December 2016 - 07:09 PM, said:

You're joking right?

All those who begged, threatened and screamed for a single player story driven Mechwarrior title who can now set their sights on 2018 and change their pants..... and you have the hide to ask why it isn't multiplayer (co-op or not)?

I recall co-op being mentioned alongside single player in every single thread on the subject, but OK.

Tristan Winter, on 06 December 2016 - 04:06 AM, said:

Because Russ has already promised what amounts to a tremendous undertaking. The ability to travel around the galaxy and negotiate contracts to fight missions on world's with dynamically generated terrain? It's extremely ambitious. You want them to promise even more, at this early stage?

OK, if you want to say it's a matter of allocating work hours, there are two problems with that. One, they could have include co-op in the original design. Criticizing them for not doing so is a legitimate criticism. Two, they could still push back release or add it post-release.

Lily from animove, on 06 December 2016 - 07:02 AM, said:

netcode, thats why. Single palyer games allows you features you can't properly synch per network. if they wan't to make it co-op then some features that otherwisely possible would have to be sacrificed for it. Why was MW3 not co.op but able to be played in vs?

So it's cool to have a proper MW5 solo that utilises all features and the mwo part utilising the PVP. Sure some want Co_op but co op is a thing inbetween.

No, none of that is true. I don't know what caused you to imagine this. You know MWO already has co-op, right? Drop ships and destroyable turrets.

Oh, but those turrets can't move, right? That's the problem? No. There is no difference between a player-controlled object and a computer-controlled object. HSR adjusts for the shooter's ping, not the target's. It never has.

[Tristan Winter]

Dr Wubs, on 06 December 2016 - 04:10 AM, said:

Did he say dynamically generated terrain?

Yes, in the PC Gamer interview.

[cazidin]

Felio, on 06 December 2016 - 11:13 AM, said:

I think you mean a serial port (null modem) option.

Good catch.

[a gaijin]

Bombast, on 06 December 2016 - 06:07 AM, said:

Another sane person? On a BT/MW forum?

The hell is going on here? I thought the fan base was constructed entirely out of *****ing Bettys and mindless loons who would pre-order Mechwarrior branded marital aids made out of carnival glass.

These would sell you know

Animus41, on 06 December 2016 - 11:13 AM, said:

And only an idiot would buy from PGI.

And only an idiot would buy from PGI without checking and finding out beforehand what they were buying first.


FYFY

[Anunknownlurker]

Why do you people even bother to come on this forum to say things like "And only an idiot would buy from PGI"?

Do you truly have nothing better to do with your lives than go on to a game forum and troll the company?

Get a life.