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[Barantor]

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Paul_Inouye ‏[color=#B1BBC3]@[/color]Paul_Inouye 38m[color=#292F33]
38 minutes ago[/color]

[color=#292F33]Please share this: values in the Skill Tree video are placeholder. We wanted to show you that there are multiple currencies involved.[/color]

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Russ Bullock ‏[color=#B1BBC3]@[/color]russ_bullock 51m[color=#292F33]
51 minutes ago[/color]

[color=#292F33]Many questions on Skill Tree and other MWO announced features. Working on detailed posts but will take a bit of time, likely post patch.[/color]

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Russ Bullock ‏[color=#B1BBC3]@[/color]russ_bullock 44m[color=#292F33]
44 minutes ago[/color]

[color=#292F33]Okay as to Skill tree I really want you to wait for the official post so I don't screw anything up however here are a couple bits:[/color]

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Russ Bullock ‏[color=#B1BBC3]@[/color]russ_bullock 44m[color=#292F33]
44 minutes ago[/color]

[color=#292F33]People concerned of the huge amount of XP to unlock are not realizing you cannot unlock everything. Limited number of node points.[/color]

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Russ Bullock ‏[color=#B1BBC3]@[/color]russ_bullock 44m[color=#292F33]
44 minutes ago[/color]

[color=#292F33]This makes sense so you can re-spec and experiment and people can find what they are good with and should make more variety of builds[/color]

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Russ Bullock ‏[color=#B1BBC3]@[/color]russ_bullock 44m[color=#292F33]
44 minutes ago[/color]

[color=#292F33]total grind time per mech should be fairly similar as now[/color]

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Russ Bullock ‏[color=#B1BBC3]@[/color]russ_bullock 44m[color=#292F33]
44 minutes ago[/color]

[color=#292F33]Re-spec cost I don't have numbers for you but will use tried and true F2P game mechanic of time versus money[/color]

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Russ Bullock ‏[color=#B1BBC3]@[/color]russ_bullock 44m[color=#292F33]
44 minutes ago[/color]

[color=#292F33]This means you can reset for free ( C-bills ) but lose the node points. Or use MC to keep the node points.[/color]

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Russ Bullock ‏[color=#B1BBC3]@[/color]russ_bullock 44m[color=#292F33]
44 minutes ago[/color]

[color=#292F33]As usual if you have the play time and the Mech XP then you can always do anything someone spending can do.[/color]

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Russ Bullock ‏[color=#B1BBC3]@[/color]russ_bullock 43m[color=#292F33]
43 minutes ago[/color]

[color=#292F33]Also we are not forgetting that some Chassis need baseline help like say my Dragon. We have a plan for this in working with the base stats.[/color]

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Russ Bullock ‏[color=#B1BBC3]@[/color]russ_bullock 42m[color=#292F33]
42 minutes ago[/color]

[color=#292F33]That is the major task left to us before this goes live is to work to keep that balance we have achieved BEFORE this skill tree system goes[/color]

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Russ Bullock ‏[color=#B1BBC3]@[/color]russ_bullock 43m[color=#292F33]
43 minutes ago[/color]

[color=#292F33]That should be enough information to tide you over until the official posts coming in the next week+[/color]

Oh and on that poll on twitter about 'more mechs or not'?

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Russ Bullock ‏@[/color]russ_bullock 40m
40 minutes ago

Again I don't necessarily see Mech Packs going away but the poll will help me with some decisions I have on which/what and when at the least

Added today (12/7):

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Barantor ‏Barantor 2h
2 hours ago
@russ_bullock Seems there is an assumption that if you respec you have to delete all skill nodes, not just some is this correct?

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Russ Bullock russ_bullock 55m
55 minutes ago
@Barantor can do one node at a time if you want - but it will include all children of that node of course

Edited by Barantor, 07 December 2016 - 11:44 AM.

[Tristan Winter]

I would reply to this, but I am so busy. Follow me on Twitter.

[Barantor]

Tristan Winter, on 06 December 2016 - 02:39 PM, said:

I would reply to this, but I am so busy. Follow me on Twitter.

I think most are too busy making assumptions and being grumpy lol.

Btw, my twitter is the same as my name here lol.

[Bud Crue]

Imagine all the time and salt they could have saved all of us and them as well, if they would have mentioned some of this at mechcon, or better yet followed up here with a vision statement/explanation of intent.


Nah, the last couple of days has admittedly been more fun, if as always a waste of time.

Thanks for posting this Barantor.

[JadePanther]

dont we have a stickied Russ Twitter feed update thread already? With pics instead of copypasta

[Peter2k]

Tristan Winter, on 06 December 2016 - 02:39 PM, said:

I would reply to this, but I am so busy. Follow me on Twitter.

Well at least we know that under performers get a baseline help for free to start with

JadePanther, on 06 December 2016 - 02:49 PM, said:

dont we have a stickied Russ Twitter feed update thread already? With pics instead of copypasta

It's not always up to date
And this seems like a hot issue

[Juodas Varnas]

Bud Crue, on 06 December 2016 - 02:48 PM, said:

Nah, the last couple of days has admittedly been more fun, if as always a waste of time.

Time You Enjoy Wasting is Not Wasted Time

[BLOOD WOLF]

THANK goodness there are people here that do stuff like this. Thank you for those bits of information.

That summary was needed.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 06 December 2016 - 02:54 PM.

[Barantor]

Peter2k, on 06 December 2016 - 02:50 PM, said:

It's not always up to date
And this seems like a hot issue

Yeah all the assumptions seeming to pop up on here and reddit were getting out of hand almost. I'll be glad when we have even more information to base opinions on.

The only reason I posted these here was for visibility. I'm sure there will be some folks still ignoring them and talking about 750,000 xp though lol.

[RestosIII]

Juodas Varnas, on 06 December 2016 - 02:51 PM, said:

Time You Enjoy Wasting is Not Wasted Time

But what if what I enjoy is wasting time then, what about that?

[Barantor]

RestosIII, on 06 December 2016 - 02:55 PM, said:

But what if what I enjoy is wasting time then, what about that?

Then you are being a champion at that?

I can't wait for the big post next week.

[BattleBunny]

Russ could score easy points by posting these things himself on these forums.

Why he wont do this I will never understand.

[Bud Crue]

In re the skills tree video from mechcon, I keep coming back to "Quirks Removed" portion. Why have such a presentation made, and then post a few days later what he says above about not forgetting that some chassis need baseline help. Maybe that help won't be in the form of current quriks, but come on man! You give a presentation like that and what are we supposed to think.

Please think this stuff through. Geezus.

[L3mming2]

tnx op this posts have more ore less answerd the most pressing isues i saw with the skill tree. it douse however seem to be a huge XP/C-bill sink if u like to modify your mechs often..

[JadePanther]

Peter2k, on 06 December 2016 - 02:50 PM, said:

It's not always up to date
And this seems like a hot issue

Well in his latest update to it he asked if anyone would like to help keep it updated..

[Peter2k]

JadePanther, on 06 December 2016 - 03:00 PM, said:

Well in his latest update to it he asked if anyone would like to help keep it updated..

So you volunteer to keep the forum clean?

[Besh]

What does he mean with "the poll" in the latest quoted tweet ?

Edited by Besh, 06 December 2016 - 03:19 PM.

[N0MAD]

So you can Respec for real $,, or you can respec for in game cash and lose you SP and have to grind it all over again..
Seems any feature these days needs to be behind a paywall..
Stock mode..paywall.
1v1 map...paywall.
Respec..paywall.
So if you want to tinker in the mech lab and try different builds its goin to cost you money real money or if you dont want to pay real money you goto spend weeks if not months to try a new build.
The guy that doesnt want to pay real money has to drive inferior mechs for an unspecified amount of time and keep doing that until he finds a build hes happy with, while the guy willing to pay real money gets to drive an Aced mech instantly, not P2W right? its pay for convenience, seems even the mech lab has been put behind a paywall.
I can see this being a real winner when it comes to new player retention and keeping F2P players...
How in the world is this going to promote build diversity?
This to me shows just how in experienced these guys are in game development.

[Burke IV]

So this skill tree, i have to fill it in perfectly first time round or i got to pay to respec? hmmmmmm

[Konrad]

Tristan Winter, on 06 December 2016 - 02:39 PM, said:

I would reply to this, but I am so busy. Follow me on Twitter.

no thanks