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[jonfett]

627, on 14 December 2016 - 02:46 AM, said:

Maybe I'm just fed up with people making fun about other people because they can't aim for sh!t.

I know there are people in MWO who play with joysticks or who only pilot stock mechs. I know that is borderline ******** in this game and as useful as playing with a fishing controller. I know there are people here who are 50+ and still play this game to their abilities.

Some are good players, some are bad players, some are new players. But I see a trend that anyone who is not getting 200 damage or whatever is called potato and is the sole reason that the leet playerz lost. I just don't like this attitude I guess. It is kinda toxic to see this and someday we'll wonder whya no one wants to play with us anymore.

Lol...I'd like to see somebody try to play this game w/ a fishing controller! That would be a hoot.

[Appogee]

It's a pity we can't indicate whether we want to be "potatoes having fun" or "tryhards trying to win", and then get dropped into teams with like-minded individuals.

Let the potatoes potate, if that's what they want. And let me play with players who prioritise winning. Stop forcing me to try to (misguidedly, apparently) carry potatoes.

It would be a win-win for all concerned.

Edited by Appogee, 14 December 2016 - 08:27 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

RestosIII, on 14 December 2016 - 01:18 AM, said:

Potatoes are highly nutritious. So are player potatoes, just for the enemy team.

plus, they tend to resemble waffle house hashbrowns when I am through.....

[jonfett]

Appogee, on 14 December 2016 - 08:14 AM, said:

It's a pity we can't indicate whether we want to be "potatoes having fun" or "tryhards trying to win", and then get dropped into teams with like-minded individuals.

Let the potatoes potate, if that's what they want. Stop forcing me to try to (misguidedly, apparently) carry them.

Win-win.

This sounds sensible. Potato tier FTW!!

I play this game as a casual player to just have some fun shooting mechs. I don't care for all the elitist attitudes that appear in the game. When I play, I'll test my loadout before the match, but during the match I will play as I see fit. If the rest of the team seems like they are also just having fun and not throwing attitudes around, I'll play better. if I see team mates talking trash and being elitist douchbags, i'll start potatoing...

[Weeny Machine]

Widowmaker1981, on 14 December 2016 - 02:33 AM, said:

What would you prefer?

Gentlemen of questionable skill?

Mechwarrior with a high reslience towards learning

[Bud Crue]

I don't know if I am a "potato", but I am most certainly a Terribad. The difference being that I don't go out of my way to do stupid things or get killed in seconds, yet it happens, a lot. But...

Edited by Bud Crue, 14 December 2016 - 08:26 AM.

[Tom Sawyer]

Mmmmm potatoes

Use a flamer and make french fries. Use some lasers and you can make roasted taters. MG's will get you smash potatoes. AC's and you can make scallop potatoes. Break out the LB's and make potaoes au gratin.

Could use a cheese meta build and make poutine.

[Appogee]

jonfett, on 14 December 2016 - 08:10 AM, said:

Lol...I'd like to see somebody try to play this game w/ a fishing controller! That would be a hoot.

PGI's previous game was Big Bass Fishing. So I'm sure they've got the fishing line controller code somewhere.

In fact, that could explain the matchmaker.

[Appogee]

I've been asking guys in matches whether they want to win or just prefer to chill out.

So far, the few responses I've got are "just relaxing".

I did get a "half and half".

Hmmm.

[Wil McCullough]

jonfett, on 14 December 2016 - 08:23 AM, said:

If the rest of the team seems like they are also just having fun and not throwing attitudes around, I'll play better. if I see team mates talking trash and being elitist douchbags, i'll start potatoing...

did you just... admit on the forums to griefing teammates on purpose? that's a reportable offence, fyi.

[RestosIII]

jonfett, on 14 December 2016 - 08:10 AM, said:

Lol...I'd like to see somebody try to play this game w/ a fishing controller! That would be a hoot.

For a minute, I thought that said "use a fishing rod" to play. I really want to play MW:O using a fisher rod and a heavy weight on the end of the line.

[Bud Crue]

Wil McCullough, on 14 December 2016 - 08:45 AM, said:

did you just... admit on the forums to griefing teammates on purpose? that's a reportable offence, fyi.

So is legging abusive jerks. Alas. (they haven't given me a ban for doing it yet)

Edited by Bud Crue, 14 December 2016 - 08:49 AM.

[Galenit]

Wil McCullough, on 14 December 2016 - 08:10 AM, said:

yup. playing video games is recreation. you know what else is recreation? sport. sport like playing basketball on saturday at the local street court. or football. it's all just for fun.

but like i mentioned in page one, how would you like it if your football teammate just started digging a hole in the mud with a stick while the game is still going on? and refuses to drop it? he finds it fun. and recreation is about fun, right?

or your bball teammate just decided that every time he gets the ball he'll just fling it at the hoop from half court. FUN.

just like the guy flinging basketballs from half court finds it FUN. but i wouldn't be surprised that no one else will play with him again. and it wouldn't be surprising if the other players on-court feel sour about this guy doing his FUN thing.

yes, the half court guy and the mwo potato is entitled to his FUN in his game. but guess what, so are the rest of the pilots dropping with and against him. when you play a team game, it is common courtesy to NOT do things that'll be detrimental to the FUN everyone else has. there are terms for people like that. they're called "griefers" or "trolls".

compared to those names, i think potato is being pretty polite already.

don't you think so too?

The guys in your example dont play the game, they dont even try it.

Your are trying to compare oranges cabbage and potatos ...

Edit:
Do you even know that "vegetable" is a "medical term", at least in germany and its never used in front of patients and relatives. If you want to know what it means, ask your nurse or doctor.

Edited by Galenit, 14 December 2016 - 09:03 AM.

[Metal Militia]

Antares102, on 14 December 2016 - 06:15 AM, said:

Absolute nonsense !
So you want to tell me since you entered the MWO tutorial or whatever was around when
you started you have not learnt or improved ANYTHING? Not how to steer your mech, not how to run around on new maps, not how to play all the new mechs, not how to do anything beyond moving forward anf backward.. and even that required a certain amount of learning

What you more likely want to tell me is that you dont want to learn and improve beyond a certain point because you are content with whatever skill you have.
And dont give me the "for fun" bullsh1t... if for some strange reason from now on you will only face EMP guys and the highest damage you will ever do is 10 then you either improve beyond your comfort zone or you wont have any fun at all.
Do you know how hard it is for somebody to always being forced to carry potatoes?
You play for fun and thereby ruining somebody else game experience which is winning=fun.

And BTW.. the "playing for fun" crowd are the first to call "cheater" as soon as somebody else is consistently better than them.

Try reading my whole post instead of picking one tiny line. If you equate winning with fun, something is wrong because you can have fun without winning, it's the journey after all, not the final destination. And my point is the point of gaming (at least with my experience in all things battletech) is not to get better (it's to have some fun, usually with some friends), that is a by product. Experience typically improves the player's skill as they gain that experience. We aren't talking comp scene here based on the OP so I would have to say playing for fun is the goal for the majority of solo queue players and improving skills + having fun is group and comp play.

[Kyrie]

This thread seems to suggest that we need an intermediate matchmaking system that lies between PSR and full-on groupqueue tryhard-ism.

Perhaps a competitive mode that has a different penalty/reward structure whereby displaying spudly characteristics is actively punished...

[JediPanther]

Let us know when a rich zillionare is buying people decent pc hardware to play mwo. I've theory crafted a $6,000 gaming rig at Dell I'd love to get. As long as people don't have or use the hardware to run games properly they will always be sub par vs someone who has the better hardware just from that difference. I've used pawn shop bought hardware to run mwo. Can I play the game? sure I can. Do I really want to? Hell no.

[kyfire]

Being called a potatoe isn't the worst thing I've been called. And yup, sometimes I deserve to be called one. Yea, I like winning but unlike some, I don't see wining as the only thing.
What grinds my gears is the player spectating me making statements like "You need to get some training" or "What's the use in piloting a SHC if you're not going to use it's speed and agility" (I pilot mine as a long range/sniper). Both of those statements were made to me in a recent match on HPG. Funny thing, I was the last man standing and did 795 damage (second highest for not only my team but the entire match) with 1 solo kill, 5 assists, 5 components destroyed etc.
Yet,m I'm the one needing training? I'm the one not using my mech's abilities?

[jonfett]

Wil McCullough, on 14 December 2016 - 08:45 AM, said:

did you just... admit on the forums to griefing teammates on purpose? that's a reportable offence, fyi.

No, that's not what I said...

To clarify, if my team mates in a match are having good attitudes and are not trash talking, I'll happily follow their lead and do the best of my ability to help out (call targets, press R, keep with the team at the front even when lurming, etc...). But, if the team resorts to the opposite and starts shaming myself or other players in a match, or acting like said douchbags more than once, I will resort to such tactics as going solo and heading left and being a surprise Rambo-Kodiak behind the enemy teams lines (this actually worked well once). I wouldn't label that griefing. I would label all the trash talking rebel scum who play this game as the griefers...

P.S. This ain't esports and i'm not gonna even attempt to play it that way...cause i don't wanna

Edited by jonfett, 14 December 2016 - 10:44 AM.

[Besh]

kyfire, on 14 December 2016 - 10:21 AM, said:

Being called a potatoe isn't the worst thing I've been called. And yup, sometimes I deserve to be called one. Yea, I like winning but unlike some, I don't see wining as the only thing.
What grinds my gears is the player spectating me making statements like "You need to get some training" or "What's the use in piloting a SHC if you're not going to use it's speed and agility" (I pilot mine as a long range/sniper). Both of those statements were made to me in a recent match on HPG. Funny thing, I was the last man standing and did 795 damage (second highest for not only my team but the entire match) with 1 solo kill, 5 assists, 5 components destroyed etc.
Yet,m I'm the one needing training? I'm the one not using my mech's abilities?

It is not really difficult to be last man standing in a SHC if you mostly hide/avoid the fight .

In fact, I had a HPG Match roughly 30 mins ago where we had a SHC on our side, who also was last man standing . The guy camped the same spot the entire Match . He did not move to support Teammates on any Target . IF he had, he couldve scored at least 3 easy kills BEFORE he came down cos he was last . Simply because his Teammates damaged a lot of 'Mechs terribly, and had he supported them/been there where he had LoF, he could have finished them from a distance, therefore relieving a TeamMate .

But what he did is, he stayed largely immobile until he was alone...then came down, ran around for about 4 mins I think, and managed to kill ONE 'Mech...while there were at least 4 enemies with open and Cherry Red CTs. He scored roughly 800 dmg though .

To be fair though, it seemed he was pretty new to the Game, or at least the SHC, so his behaviour is understandeable .

I guess what I want to say is: what you describe above is not necessarily difficult to achieve, or a sign of MadSkillz .

Edited by Besh, 14 December 2016 - 10:42 AM.

[FuhNuGi]

I would never call a new player a potato...

A new player is more like a Baby Seal, just waiting to get clubbed, helpless and lacking the knowledge that the big Dire Wolf with the spiked club is coming for them.

I reserve the term potato for a player (without regard to PSR, kdr, w/l) who has played the game for some time and does dumb moves like standing on the ramp blocking movement up during a rush, standing in back to be "fresh" when the mechs start dropping... making repeated bad calls despite having enough time in the game to know better is potato.

A potato can be in any tier. Any kdr or win / loss can be a potato. Due to how stats roll with the team synergy you can have good stats and be a potato.
Potatoness has nothing to do with stats, just how you use what you have.

Potato is a better term than I have used in the past for grub infested tubers stuck in the mud of the garden of mediocrity.
Potato is good.