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[Cryzak]

Piranha!

[Metus regem]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 04 January 2017 - 12:18 PM, said:

FL armor is pretty amazing, easily better usage of BV and tonnage than hardened imo. It makes 55 tonners take roughly as much damage as a 70 tonner or something like that (been a while since I did the math). I created a munchkin "Black Hawk II" of sorts that used it, Partial Wings, and 2 ERPPCs with brutal efficiency at 55 tons.

A while back I built this little monster...

Spoiler

Mad Cat Mk V

Mass: 35 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Dark Ages
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F-A
Production Year: 3130
Cost: 6,235,313 C-Bills
Battle Value: 624

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 210 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97.2 km/h
Jump Jets: Unknown
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Lamellor
Armament:
14.0 tons of pod space.
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

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Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 58 points 2.00
Internal Locations: 2 RT, 1 LA, 4 RA
Engine: XL Fusion Engine 210 4.50
Walking MP: 6
Running MP: 9
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 10(20) 0.00
Heat Sink Locations: 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro: Standard 3.00
Cockpit: Standard 3.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA
Armor: Ferro-Lamellor AV - 119 8.50
Armor Locations: 1 HD, 2 LT, 2 RT, 5 LA, 2 RA

Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 11 17
Center Torso (rear) 5
L/R Torso 8 12
L/R Torso (rear) 4
L/R Arm 6 12
L/R Leg 8 16



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Loadout Name: Base Cost: 6,235,313
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F-A BV2: 624

Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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Loadout Name: Prime Cost: 7,558,313
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F-A BV2: 1,335

Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 14(28) 4.00
Heat Sink Locations: 1 CT, 2 LT, 1 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL
CASE Locations: LT, RT, LA, RA 0.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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iATM-3 RT 2 2 1.50
iATM-3 LT 2 2 1.50
Imp. Hvy Medium Laser RA 7 2 1.00
Imp. Hvy Small Laser RA 3 1 0.50
Imp. Hvy Medium Laser LA 7 2 1.00
Imp. Hvy Small Laser LA 3 1 0.50
@iATM-3 (20) RT - 1 1.00
@iATM-3 (HE) (20) RT - 1 1.00
@iATM-3 (20) LT - 1 1.00
@iATM-3 (HE) (20) LT - 1 1.00
Free Critical Slots: 2

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 13
6 5 4 1 0 1 0 Structure: 2
Special Abilities: OMNI, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA


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Loadout Name: A Cost: 6,809,063
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F-A BV2: 858

Equipment Type Rating Mass
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CASE Locations: LT, RT 0.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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Ultra AC/2 RA 1 2 5.00
Ultra AC/2 LA 1 2 5.00
@Ultra AC/2 (90) RT - 2 2.00
@Ultra AC/2 (90) LT - 2 2.00
Free Critical Slots: 16

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 9
6 1 1 1 0 1 0 Structure: 2
Special Abilities: OMNI, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA


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Loadout Name: B Cost: 6,991,313
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F-A BV2: 1,288

Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Heat Sinks: Double Heat Sink 13(26) 3.00
Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 2 RT, 1 LL, 1 RL
Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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2 Micro Pulse Lasers RT 2 2 1.00
2 Micro Pulse Lasers LT 2 2 1.00
Targeting Computer LT - 2 2.00
ER Small Pulse Laser RA 3 1 1.50
ER Medium Pulse Laser RA 6 2 2.00
ER Small Pulse Laser LA 3 1 1.50
ER Medium Pulse Laser LA 6 2 2.00
Free Critical Slots: 6

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 13
6 5 3 0 0 1 0 Structure: 2
Special Abilities: OMNI, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA


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Loadout Name: C Cost: 7,247,813
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-X-A BV2: 1,611

Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA

Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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Enhanced ER PPC RA 15 3 7.00
Enhanced ER PPC LA 15 3 7.00
Free Critical Slots: 18

BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 5 Points: 16
6 2 2 2 0 1 1 Structure: 2
Special Abilities: OMNI, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA

It was a real murder machine for it's size... it took a stupid amount of punishment before it would go down.

[TheArisen]

Arnold The Governator, on 04 January 2017 - 06:35 AM, said:

I voted it because I personally like the look of the Annihilator, even though I have no nostalgic ties to Mechwarrior 3 nor any other games it was featured in. I don't know why but it reminds me of some kind of giant ancient egyptian god like Ra. Would be a cool skin theme for it IMO if PGI could pull it off.

What honestly surprised me is that the Mad Cat Mk.2 tied with the Rifleman IIC for a bit in the polls. I'm glad to see that people want decent clan battlemechs in the game besides personal nostalgic value.

So you voted for looks and then comment about adding quality mechs over nostalgia...

[Gas Guzzler]

TheArisen, on 04 January 2017 - 01:36 PM, said:

So you voted for looks and then comment about adding quality mechs over nostalgia...

Well to be fair, if PGI were to grace the Annihilator with a little bit extra engine cap, up to a 300, some pretty devastating builds would be possible, including 4 AC10s or 3 AC10s and 2 PPCs, or potentially even dual ppc quad UAC5. That would certainly be a valuable addition to the IS assault lineup.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Gas Guzzler, on 04 January 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

Well to be fair, if PGI were to grace the Annihilator with a little bit extra engine cap, up to a 300, some pretty devastating builds would be possible, including 4 AC10s or 3 AC10s and 2 PPCs, or potentially even dual ppc quad UAC5. That would certainly be a valuable addition to the IS assault lineup.

It would still have some of the worst hitboxes though with its Godzilla/Giraffe crane of a neck/head.

[TheArisen]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 04 January 2017 - 02:02 PM, said:

It would still have some of the worst hitboxes though with its Godzilla/Giraffe crane of a neck/head.

What about this artwork? It takes off the neck but maintains the look.
https://mwomercs.com...r-quick-sketch/

[RestosIII]

TheArisen, on 04 January 2017 - 02:08 PM, said:

What about this artwork? It takes off the neck but maintains the look.
https://mwomercs.com...r-quick-sketch/

The Annihilator without the neck is no Annihilator at all. Get out of here with that garbage.

[Gas Guzzler]

RestosIII, on 04 January 2017 - 02:10 PM, said:

The Annihilator without the neck is no Annihilator at all. Get out of here with that garbage.

Ehhhh I wouldn't go that far.

[RestosIII]

Gas Guzzler, on 04 January 2017 - 02:17 PM, said:

Ehhhh I wouldn't go that far.

It's like getting rid of the Atlas skull, or moving the Summoner cockpit to the CT like in the Battletech cartoon. It ain't right.

[Gas Guzzler]

RestosIII, on 04 January 2017 - 02:18 PM, said:

It's like getting rid of the Atlas skull, or moving the Summoner cockpit to the CT like in the Battletech cartoon. It ain't right.

I just thought that neck looked a little cartoony tbh... kind of like how they moved the cockpit position on the Wolfhound for instance. Its a minor change that doesn't really take away from the spirit of the mech... but that's just my opinion. The Summoner cockpit is a much more ridiculous change in my opinion.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Gas Guzzler, on 04 January 2017 - 02:22 PM, said:

I just thought that neck looked a little cartoony tbh... kind of like how they moved the cockpit position on the Wolfhound for instance. Its a minor change that doesn't really take away from the spirit of the mech... but that's just my opinion. The Summoner cockpit is a much more ridiculous change in my opinion.

I agree, I actually like that revamp a lot, if anything it makes it look more menacing; though it doesn't have to be THAT shrunk into the torso, there could be some sort of extension.

[Bombast]

TheArisen, on 04 January 2017 - 02:08 PM, said:

What about this artwork? It takes off the neck but maintains the look.
https://mwomercs.com...r-quick-sketch/

I'm with RestosIII on this one. An Annihilator without a giraffe neck simply isn't an Annihilator.

[CK16]

Cryzak, on 04 January 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

Piranha!

Anytime I hear that one...

[Valdarion Silarius]

Bombast, on 04 January 2017 - 02:39 PM, said:

I'm with RestosIII on this one. An Annihilator without a giraffe neck simply isn't an Annihilator.

That concept art makes it look like a turtle than anything.

[CK16]

So based on the poll so far, if this were to drive the mechs for this year... I will go 5 of each with 2 runner ups(*) giving some grace for other happenings

Out of 186 participants

IS side would get
-Annihilator (85) [Assault]
-Stinger &/or Wasp (77) [Light]
-Crusader (70) [Heavy]
-Nightstar (57) [Assault]
-Uziel (55) [Medium]
-Sunder (47)* [Assault]
-Longbow (46)* [Assault]

Clan side would get
-Firemoth (94) [Light]
-Mad Cat Mk II (70) [Assault]
-Nova Cat (68) [Heavy]
-Warhammer IIC (68) [Assault]
-Rifleman IIC or Locust IIC (67 tie) [Heavy/Light]
-Stone Rhino (52)* [Assault]
-Cougar (39)* [Light]

I would definitely call that a good year for Clans with a nice mix of everything (besides mediums). IS wouldn't fare to bad, although a bit heavy sided with quite a few assaults.

Edited by CK16, 04 January 2017 - 03:55 PM.

[Bombast]

Arnold The Governator, on 04 January 2017 - 03:39 PM, said:

That concept art makes it look like a turtle than anything.

More like...

[jss78]

IS:

Stinger+Wasp -- though I'll admit to promoting these because I want, in general, to see Alex Iglesias reworks and PGI models for these. They'd be incredibly important for merc campaigns in both HBS BT and MW5M, so my wish is that the PGI art guys do them.

Another light, selected purely based on in-game effectiveness. Javelin? Maybe Hermes? (30 tonner with huge engine cap, 6+ energy hardpoints + MASC in the Royal version). Let the meta lords decide which one.

Crusader -- unashamed nostalgia here.

Longbow -- I think it's cool, and the Tier 5 lurm boys will love it.

I agree IS mediums should probably take a back seat. Unless Russ backtracks and has PGI do the quad code, in which case I'd like to see the Scorpion.

No real opinion on the clan stuff, whatever makes the clan guys happy.

[Gas Guzzler]

jss78, on 04 January 2017 - 04:17 PM, said:

Another light, selected purely based on in-game effectiveness. Javelin? Maybe Hermes? (30 tonner with huge engine cap, 6+ energy hardpoints + MASC in the Royal version). Let the meta lords decide which one.

I've heard enough about the Hermes, it is definitely my number 1 IS light mech desire.

[TheArisen]

Well if the Annihilator needs the neck then it'll just be terrible even if Pgi gave it a 300 engine cap. #SaynototheAnnie

[Y E O N N E]

CK16, on 04 January 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

I would definitely call that a good year for Clans with a nice mix of everything (besides mediums). IS wouldn't fare to bad, although a bit heavy sided with quite a few assaults.

And an overwhelming number of people want an ultra-crap IS Light...

*sigh*