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[FirstSeraph]

Didn't see a section to put in specific names for "Other" votes, but I want to see a timeline jump (c'mon, it's been long enough) and I want to see any 4 of the Word of Blake Celestial series.

[Fake News]

hatamoto suna/chi for sure.

[Fire for Effect]

some additional probable choices:

for IS:

for PGI easy
Marauder II (without C!)

for PGI medium difficulty:
Battle Hawk
Hatamoto Chi

for PGI difficult (new tech that is missing in the game)
Fafnir (Heavy Gauss)
Defiance (Light Fusion Engine!)

probably still legal issues:
Ost- Series of Mechs (Ostroc / Ostsol / Ostscout)
Valkyre


for Clan:

PGI Easy Level:
Phoenix Hawk IIC
Urban Mech IIC
Shadowhawk IIC


very difficult for PGI:
Elementals !
Proto Mechs ! (e.g. Minotaur)

[Karl Streiger]

Fire for Effect, on 09 January 2017 - 06:09 AM, said:

PGI Easy Level:
Phoenix Hawk IIC
Urban Mech IIC
Shadowhawk IIC

Similarities end for both mechs with the C.
The PHX IIC is a 80t boat with torso ballistics or missiles - the SHD IIC is a smaller energy boat with out shoulder cannone or much missiles.

Would be much simpler to create Rifleman IIC, somehow and Warhammer IIC, Great Wyrm maybe either (a hit box fine tuned 45t Clan Dragon)

[Battlemaster56]

Karl Streiger, on 09 January 2017 - 06:41 AM, said:

Similarities end for both mechs with the C.
The PHX IIC is a 80t boat with torso ballistics or missiles - the SHD IIC is a smaller energy boat with out shoulder cannone or much missiles.

Would be much simpler to create Rifleman IIC, somehow and Warhammer IIC, Great Wyrm maybe either (a hit box fine tuned 45t Clan Dragon)

PHXIIC need serious hardpoint inflation to make it even close to decent, SHDIIC have cannon high mounts to chest mount.

Great Wyrm not gonna be that great in the game since it's gonna have the same problems as the Dragon itself. I would suggest the Griffon IIC it be a differnet option for clans in the 40 ton category other than the Viper, and focus on firepower rather speed.

[CK16]

Battlemaster56, on 09 January 2017 - 07:16 AM, said:

PHXIIC need serious hardpoint inflation to make it even close to decent, SHDIIC have cannon high mounts to chest mount.

Great Wyrm not gonna be that great in the game since it's gonna have the same problems as the Dragon itself. I would suggest the Griffon IIC it be a differnet option for clans in the 40 ton category other than the Viper, and focus on firepower rather speed.

Yea the Warhammer IIC is way better for the 80 ton option. Thing is quite nasty at its tonnage.

[SGT Puddles]

We very much need the Charger.
Also the Clint, Vulcan, Mongoose, Caesar, Hatamoto-Chi, and Imp.
I really just want everything up to 3050 then all the rest of all the things.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

CK16, on 09 January 2017 - 07:33 AM, said:

Yea the Warhammer IIC is way better for the 80 ton option. Thing is quite nasty at its tonnage.

It is just a worse Marauder IIC though, the Pixie would at least give us something interesting.

[Snazzy Dragon]

Fire for Effect, on 09 January 2017 - 06:09 AM, said:

Fafnir (Heavy Gauss)

http://readthat.com/...2015/02/107.gif

pgi pls

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Pariah Devalis, on 06 January 2017 - 06:11 PM, said:

MWO already has an insane number of mechs available verses other MW titles, but a mech modeler and texturer isn't going to be coding.

Where did I suggest this would be otherwise? If they are focusing on cosmetic sales those modelers and texture artists would still have stuff to do.

Pariah Devalis, on 06 January 2017 - 06:11 PM, said:

Hell, with sufficient numbers of mechs, one could even start to add extra depth to the CW scene, what with faction restricted mechs or variants of mechs.

Are you forgetting the plight of CW currently? They'd have to fix CW before that even becomes a relevant user story.

[Metus regem]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 09 January 2017 - 07:50 AM, said:

It is just a worse Marauder IIC though, the Pixie would at least give us something interesting.

Nope... The 'Hammer IIC, in most of it's official variants are energy/missile hybrids... only the IIC-3 (energy boat) and IIC-6 (balistic boat) stand out as dedicated boats...

It'd likely have an engine cap of 385 (320*1.2=384), with Warhammer like hit-boxes, combined with a cXL cEndo and cFF it'd be a rather nasty beat stick for the clans, with a possible 33.21t of equipment space, that's max armour with the above upgrades and the max engine size.... how ever I'd likely go with a 350 cXL giving 40.25t to work with.

[Battlemaster56]

CK16, on 09 January 2017 - 07:33 AM, said:

Yea the Warhammer IIC is way better for the 80 ton option. Thing is quite nasty at its tonnage.

Yes the Warhammer be better than PHX straight up because it's measly 4 hard points (RT/LT Ballistics, and RA 2x Ballistics), to even make the PHX IIC even competitive it would have to get at least 2-4 more hardpoints meaning 2 in each ST, and 2 in the RA.

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 09 January 2017 - 07:50 AM, said:

It is just a worse Marauder IIC though, the Pixie would at least give us something interesting.

The Warhammer is only lacking in ECM and JJ's that's all but it can still be powerful on the field.

[Metus regem]

Battlemaster56, on 09 January 2017 - 08:20 AM, said:

The Warhammer is only lacking in ECM and JJ's that's all but it can still be powerful on the field.

Warhammer IIC-9

• This version drops the ER PPCs and replaces them with experimental Rotary AC/5s. An XXL Fusion Engine provides enough power for a top speed of 86km/h. The RACs are backed up by a pair of ER Medium Lasers and ER Small Lasers, and the missile launcher is now an LRM-10. In addition to the Ferro-Fibrous Armor, an ECM Suite in the head disrupts enemy electronics.

Nope, she's got a variant that packs ECM too...


As for IS varaints packing extra kit:

WHM-4L

• The 4L variant of the Warhammer was one of the four new variants introduced by StarCorps in 3067, towards the end of the FedCom Civil War. Intended for use by the Capellan Confederation's new Shadow Lances, it completely stripped the armor, the engine, and heat sinks from the original. Instead it used an XL Engine that weighed half as much as the original VOX power plant, carried double heat sinks to vent the excess from its new weapons and used Stealth Armor to aid in camouflaging it. The 4L Warhammers primary weapons were two ER PPCs for long-range combat, backed up by four Medium Pulse Lasers and a Streak SRM-6 launcher for close range combat.

WHM-9D

• Taking the concept of the 6D even further, the 9D was built in 3067 on an Endo Steel chassis and used an XL Engine to upgrade the maximum speed to 86 km/h. The 'Mech carried thirteen and a half tons of armor and was armed with two ER PPCs and two ER medium lasers. The 'Mech's weapons were all linked to an advanced Targeting Computer, allowing the Warhammer to direct its firepower with uncanny accuracy. The 9D also has the additional advantage of being able to jump up to ninety meters with three jump jets added to the 'Mech

WHM-10T

• A refit of the 9D introduced 3073, the 10T replaced the Targeting Computer and jump jets with Improved Jump Jets for a jump range of 210 meters. The ER PPCs were also traded for standard PPCs.

WHM-11T

• This Taurian Concordat variant, introduced in 3084, replaced all the standard weapons with two Snub-Nose PPCs, two Light PPCs, two ER Medium Lasers, and an MML-5. Light Ferro-Fibrous armor and CASE protect the 'Mech. The most interesting update was the inclusion of five Improved Jump Jets. Thirteen double heat sinks and an XL Engine completed the 'Mech.

Edited by Metus regem, 09 January 2017 - 08:28 AM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Battlemaster56, on 09 January 2017 - 08:20 AM, said:

The Warhammer is only lacking in ECM and JJ's that's all but it can still be powerful on the field.

At its best, it is either a MAD-IIC-8, at its worst it is like the MAD-IIC-B, both of which are easily the worst of the Marauder IICs.
Its saving grace is the fact that PGI would most likely give it variants that are exact replicas of the IS version which would give it the ability to mount ballistics and energy in the torsos. It would still lack the tonnage the Marauder IIC has to work with though by virtue of being 80 tons but with a 6R replica it would definitely be good (but for that variant alone).

Metus regem, on 09 January 2017 - 08:20 AM, said:

The 'Hammer IIC, in most of it's official variants are energy/missile hybrids

That's actually its problem, energy/missile boats stop doing well in the assault range where it is all about ballistics/energy. There is a reason the MAD-IIC-8 (which is pretty much equivalent to the stock WHM-IIC) and the MAD-IIC-B are the worst of the Marauders.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 09 January 2017 - 08:31 AM.

[ovie]

The only mechs i can think of at this point that'd make me open my wallet are the Bane and Phantom

[Battlemaster56]

Metus regem, on 09 January 2017 - 08:27 AM, said:

Warhammer IIC-9

• This version drops the ER PPCs and replaces them with experimental Rotary AC/5s. An XXL Fusion Engine provides enough power for a top speed of 86km/h. The RACs are backed up by a pair of ER Medium Lasers and ER Small Lasers, and the missile launcher is now an LRM-10. In addition to the Ferro-Fibrous Armor, an ECM Suite in the head disrupts enemy electronics.

Nope, she's got a variant that packs ECM too...



As for IS varaints packing extra kit:

WHM-4L

• The 4L variant of the Warhammer was one of the four new variants introduced by StarCorps in 3067, towards the end of the FedCom Civil War. Intended for use by the Capellan Confederation's new Shadow Lances, it completely stripped the armor, the engine, and heat sinks from the original. Instead it used an XL Engine that weighed half as much as the original VOX power plant, carried double heat sinks to vent the excess from its new weapons and used Stealth Armor to aid in camouflaging it. The 4L Warhammers primary weapons were two ER PPCs for long-range combat, backed up by four Medium Pulse Lasers and a Streak SRM-6 launcher for close range combat.

WHM-9D

• Taking the concept of the 6D even further, the 9D was built in 3067 on an Endo Steel chassis and used an XL Engine to upgrade the maximum speed to 86 km/h. The 'Mech carried thirteen and a half tons of armor and was armed with two ER PPCs and two ER medium lasers. The 'Mech's weapons were all linked to an advanced Targeting Computer, allowing the Warhammer to direct its firepower with uncanny accuracy. The 9D also has the additional advantage of being able to jump up to ninety meters with three jump jets added to the 'Mech

WHM-10T

• A refit of the 9D introduced 3073, the 10T replaced the Targeting Computer and jump jets with Improved Jump Jets for a jump range of 210 meters. The ER PPCs were also traded for standard PPCs.

WHM-11T

• This Taurian Concordat variant, introduced in 3084, replaced all the standard weapons with two Snub-Nose PPCs, two Light PPCs, two ER Medium Lasers, and an MML-5. Light Ferro-Fibrous armor and CASE protect the 'Mech. The most interesting update was the inclusion of five Improved Jump Jets. Thirteen double heat sinks and an XL Engine completed the 'Mech.

Oh I must of read over, most of the IIC variants, and IS Warhammer with jj's that's nice, thanks for sharing that info with me.

[GrimRiver]

At this point all I want is the timeline to be gone and get T2 tech.

LFE
Binary laser
Heavy laser
LAMS
MRM
Rest of the PPC family
RAC
PFD

Ect...


Inb4 someone says balance current tech first.
If we were gonna get balance for current tech then it would've happened by now,
PGI had 3 years to do so.

New mechs without their tech is like eating a hamburger without the meat, it just ain't right.

[Metus regem]

Battlemaster56, on 09 January 2017 - 08:53 AM, said:

Oh I must of read over, most of the IIC variants, and IS Warhammer with jj's that's nice, thanks for sharing that info with me.

No problem, I'm a Warhammer fan in TT, it helps to know my 'hammers.

[April Showers]

Stinger, Wasp, Sling, Thorn, Valkyrie, Mercury, Hermes, Hermes II, Clint, Vulcan, Flea, Falcon, Firefly, Javelin, Wolf Trap, Ostroc, Ostscout, Ostsol, Guillotine, Thug, Caesar. Hatamoto-Chi, Crocket/Katana, Flashman, Shogun. MARAUDER 2.

Dasher, Dasher, Dasher, Dasher, Piranha, Piranha, Urbie IIC, Locust IIC, Hellhound, Peregrine, Galahad, Baboon, Pouncer, Phantom.

Oh. HATCHETMAN. AXMAN.

MAPS.

[Battlemaster56]

April Showers, on 09 January 2017 - 11:47 AM, said:

Stinger, Wasp, Sling, Thorn, Valkyrie, Mercury, Hermes, Hermes II, Clint, Vulcan, Flea, Falcon, Firefly, Javelin, Wolf Trap, Ostroc, Ostscout, Ostsol, Guillotine, Thug, Caesar. Hatamoto-Chi, Crocket/Katana, Flashman, Shogun. MARAUDER 2.

Dasher, Dasher, Dasher, Dasher, Piranha, Piranha, Urbie IIC, Locust IIC, Hellhound, Peregrine, Galahad, Baboon, Pouncer, Phantom.

Oh. HATCHETMAN. AXMAN.

MAPS.

Too lazy to edit the words out....