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#341 Battlemaster56

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 03:27 PM

View PostTina Benoit, on 10 January 2017 - 02:52 PM, said:

Just came out of a long and awesome 'Mech talk meeting and wanted to thank you guys for this community poll~

It awesome to see you liking this poll. Posted Image

View PostBombast, on 10 January 2017 - 03:21 PM, said:


What a nice way to say "Inner Sphere pilots want hot garbage and mechs that aren't even legal due to era and usable weapons."

Seriously though, why is the Uziel even in there? The only reason I can think was to entrap IS players so that, at a later date, the thread maker can dangle this poll around and bludgeon anyone who wants to stick to a logical time constraint over the head with the fact that Inner Sphere forum goers apparently want to skip ahead as well.

But there's only one user I can think of that would want to do...

Oh.

The only useful thing I can see the Uziel doing is gonna be a strong poptart with dual ppc's in the Medium mech department.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 03:29 PM

Well if the polls top few are coming this year...Clans would be in good shape atleast lol.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 03:34 PM

View PostTina Benoit, on 10 January 2017 - 02:52 PM, said:

Just came out of a long and awesome 'Mech talk meeting and wanted to thank you guys for this community poll~


This makes me happy and worried... The IS has some pretty terrible mechs in the poll with lots of votes.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 03:47 PM

For IS:
1. Uziel with 300 votes
2. Annihilator with 298
3. Stinger/Wasp 256
4. Crusader 244
5. Sunder 199
6. Nightstar 168
7. Hauptmann 158
8. Longbow 149
9. Dervish 127
10. Devastator 124
Honorable mention: Javelin 123 votes

#345 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 03:49 PM

View PostTheArisen, on 10 January 2017 - 03:47 PM, said:

For IS:
1. Uziel with 300 votes
2. Annihilator with 298
3. Stinger/Wasp 256
4. Crusader 244
5. Sunder 199
6. Nightstar 168
7. Hauptmann 158
8. Longbow 149
9. Dervish 127
10. Devastator 124
Honorable mention: Javelin 123 votes

The top 4 (technically 5) mechs are all nostalgia votes but almost all of them are outclasses by existing or within timeline options.

#346 RestosIII

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 04:38 PM

View PostBombast, on 10 January 2017 - 03:21 PM, said:


What a nice way to say "Inner Sphere pilots want hot garbage and mechs that aren't even legal due to era and usable weapons."

Seriously though, why is the Uziel even in there? The only reason I can think was to entrap IS players so that, at a later date, the thread maker can dangle this poll around and bludgeon anyone who wants to stick to a logical time constraint over the head with the fact that Inner Sphere forum goers apparently want to skip ahead as well.

But there's only one user I can think of that would want to do...

Oh.


Meanwhile, I'd shove so much cash into PGI's face if the Uziel was coming out. 50 ton PPC poptart? Yes please.

#347 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 04:42 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 10 January 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:


Meanwhile, I'd shove so much cash into PGI's face if the Uziel was coming out. 50 ton PPC poptart? Yes please.


I don't see it being that good at poptarting. Its arms aren't exactly high and they are super wide apart. And honestly, the mech doesn't look that good.

#348 RestosIII

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 04:45 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 10 January 2017 - 04:42 PM, said:

the mech doesn't look that good.

doesn't look that good.


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I've always loved how the Uziel looked. It's actually up there as one of my favorite mediums. I mean, look at this thing!

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And those arms are around cockpit level. Sure, it's a bit wide, but for poptarting you don't really need much side clearance anyways.

Edited by RestosIII, 10 January 2017 - 04:46 PM.


#349 Bombast

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 04:46 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 10 January 2017 - 04:38 PM, said:

Meanwhile, I'd shove so much cash into PGI's face if the Uziel was coming out. 50 ton PPC poptart? Yes please.


Why not pay C-Bills for a 45 ton PPC poptart?

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#350 RestosIII

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 04:47 PM

View PostBombast, on 10 January 2017 - 04:46 PM, said:


Why not pay C-Bills for a 45 ton PPC poptart?

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Because I never liked how the Blackjack looked, and it doesn't come stock with DHS and a 300 XL engine.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 04:48 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 10 January 2017 - 04:47 PM, said:

Because I never liked how the Blackjack looked, and it doesn't come stock with DHS and a 300 XL engine.


Well... it doesn't come stock with a 300 XL engine.

As for the look... fair enough.

Edited by Bombast, 10 January 2017 - 05:32 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 04:50 PM

View PostBombast, on 10 January 2017 - 04:48 PM, said:


Well... it doesn't come stock with a 300 XL engine.

As for the look... far enough.



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That right there is what helps make me want an Uziel. Plus, it would have a non-crap lore loadout, which is always a plus.

#353 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 04:51 PM

The Uziel's cockpit is also belly mounted, which means that before you see anything over the hill you are poptarting, someone will be plowing you with Gauss rifles and PPCs or a face full of dakka.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 04:53 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 10 January 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

The Uziel's cockpit is also belly mounted, which means that before you see anything over the hill you are poptarting, someone will be plowing you with Gauss rifles and PPCs or a face full of dakka.


It's not too large of a top though on it, and it won't be crippling. Honestly, if you're poptarting right in front of where the enemy is already pointing, you're doing it wrong already.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 04:55 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 10 January 2017 - 04:53 PM, said:


It's not too large of a top though on it, and it won't be crippling. Honestly, if you're poptarting right in front of where the enemy is already pointing, you're doing it wrong already.


With most of your torso showing before you can even see, let alone pick a target and aim, you are giving the bad guys every opportunity to notice you and shoot at you. Wouldn't even be CLOSE to as good as a BJ-3, let alone a HBK-IIC with 2 ER PPCs.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 04:58 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 10 January 2017 - 04:50 PM, said:

That right there is what helps make me want an Uziel. Plus, it would have a non-crap lore loadout, which is always a plus.


I was referring to the Blackjack, that does come with DHSs.

As for the Uziel... it's nice enough. The UZL-2S is good (The time frame is off, but the tech is alright and the whole chassis's time is off so screw it), but the UZL-3S is a scattered mess (Five separate weapon systems. Five) and has weapons we don't have. And the UZL-8S and the hero variants are straight up no-gos.

Personal preference... Bushwacker is coming. After that, my medium needs are pretty much met, outside of the Strider.

Edited by Bombast, 10 January 2017 - 05:12 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 05:05 PM

Just noticed that Tina thanked us for the poll.

That's just great. IS gets a bucket load of nostalgia fueled CRAP, and Clans get a nice nostalgia pick/drop deck filler (Fire Moth) followed by devastating beasts such as the Mad Cat Mk. II, Warhammer IIC, and Nova Cat.

I hate IS players.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 10 January 2017 - 05:06 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 05:23 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 10 January 2017 - 05:05 PM, said:

I hate IS players.


Don't be like that.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 05:26 PM

View PostBombast, on 10 January 2017 - 05:23 PM, said:


Don't be like that.

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I'm sorry, Crusader/Stinger/Wasp/Uziel just seem like they wouldn't add anything interesting to the game. Nightstar/Thunder Hawk/Sunder on the other hand...

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 05:28 PM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 10 January 2017 - 05:26 PM, said:

I'm sorry, Crusader/Stinger/Wasp/Uziel just seem like they wouldn't add anything interesting to the game. Nightstar/Thunder Hawk/Sunder on the other hand...


On one those those, we are in agreement . The Sunder is the only mech I care about that you just mentioned.

Though it would be a hollow addition without the LB 20-X. Still would take it.





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