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[Ch_R0me]

Well, my picks are:

IS

• Raptor
  
• Strider
  
• Sunder
  
• Nightstar

Why these? 3 of them are the IS OmniMechs. And I love OmniMechs for being very modular. And why NightStar? Because it's like clan Turkina - kick-*** Assault.

Clan

• Kingfisher
  
• Bane
  
• Turkina
  
• Stone Rhino

Why these? Kingfisher - heavy armor, Bane - long range. Turkina - kick-*** Assault like Nightstar & Stone Rhino - the mech with destiny to become a SuperHeavy one, but for sake of being useful, it had to be weight down to 100 tonnes.

[FLG 01]

I would love to see IS Omnis myself, just keep in mind heatsinks are locked, and the Strider uses single heat sinks and has hot weapons. So that one is not on my list.

I would gg for Raptor (light), Men Shen (medium), Black Hawk-KU (heavy), and Hauptmann (assault).

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FLG 01, on 07 April 2017 - 09:43 AM, said:

I would love to see IS Omnis myself, just keep in mind heatsinks are locked, and the Strider uses single heat sinks and has hot weapons. So that one is not on my list.

I would gg for Raptor (light), Men Shen (medium), Black Hawk-KU (heavy), and Hauptmann (assault).

Not a bad list...

Raptor
Men Shen
Black Hawk KU
Templar (I like the challenge of working around the crit limitations)

[Y E O N N E]

Yes, yes! IS Omnis!

I think the Blackhakw-KU would actually turn out to be quite strong.

[FLG 01]

Metus regem, on 07 April 2017 - 09:51 AM, said:

Raptor
Men Shen
Black Hawk KU
Templar (I like the challenge of working around the crit limitations)

I guess it is just our avatars seperating us, in this case.
But yes, the Templar is a challenge and I would like to it in game nonetheless.

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FLG 01, on 07 April 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

I guess it is just our avatars seperating us, in this case.
But yes, the Templar is a challenge and I would like to it in game nonetheless.

Could be

That being said, the two IS Omni's I would love to see are a bit odd...

http://www.sarna.net...rion_(OmniMech)
http://www.sarna.net...tlet_(OmniMech)

I'm generally not a fan of Dark Age, but for some reason the Gauntlet just draws me to it....

[Ch_R0me]

Metus regem, on 07 April 2017 - 10:26 AM, said:

Could be

That being said, the two IS Omni's I would love to see are a bit odd...

http://www.sarna.net...rion_(OmniMech)
http://www.sarna.net...tlet_(OmniMech)

I'm generally not a fan of Dark Age, but for some reason the Gauntlet just draws me to it....

I would kill for a 32'nd century's mechs, like these two (not mentioning tri-pods, of course )...

FLG 01, on 07 April 2017 - 09:43 AM, said:

I would love to see IS Omnis myself, just keep in mind heatsinks are locked, and the Strider uses single heat sinks and has hot weapons. So that one is not on my list.

I would gg for Raptor (light), Men Shen (medium), Black Hawk-KU (heavy), and Hauptmann (assault).

Strider AFAIK is trying to be a Omni-based Cicada pretending to be a Oxide Jenner, so single HS are pretty much OK

Edited by ManganMan, 07 April 2017 - 11:06 AM.

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ManganMan, on 07 April 2017 - 11:02 AM, said:

Strider AFAIK is trying to be a Omni-based Cicada pretending to be a Oxide Jenner, so single HS are pretty much OK

Nah, missiles run pretty hot unless you are throwing spitballs.

[TheArisen]

FLG 01, on 07 April 2017 - 09:43 AM, said:

I would love to see IS Omnis myself, just keep in mind heatsinks are locked, and the Strider uses single heat sinks and has hot weapons. So that one is not on my list.

I would gg for Raptor (light), Men Shen (medium), Black Hawk-KU (heavy), and Hauptmann (assault).

How could you support Katrina?!

Oh well, my list is as follows.
Light: Raptor
Medium: Lynx
Heavy: Dragon Fire
Assault: Nightstar ( No question here eh?)

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TheArisen, on 07 April 2017 - 12:10 PM, said:

How could you support Katrina?!

Oh well, my list is as follows.
Light: Raptor
Medium: Lynx
Heavy: Dragon Fire
Assault: Nightstar ( No question here eh?)

'Cept we were talking about Omni's... and I know that the only omni you listed there is the Raptor...


The mechs in general that I'd like to see are a bit different...


Stinger / Wasp
Enfield
Crusader
Charger / Devastator

[FLG 01]

TheArisen, on 07 April 2017 - 12:10 PM, said:

Medium: Lynx
Heavy: Dragon Fire
Assault: Nightstar ( No question here eh?)

I would buy them all. As a medium driver I like the Lynx best though.

TheArisen, on 07 April 2017 - 12:10 PM, said:

How could you support Katrina?!

Somebody's got to do it.

No, seriously, I know Katherine is about the worst thing that happened to the Lyrans, but would I know this if I actually were a Lyran and not omniscient thanks to the novels?
I guess I would go through a similar process like Adam Steiner, i.e. slowly realizing Katherine is bad for the Alliance but still not supporting Victor.

[TheArisen]

Metus regem, on 07 April 2017 - 12:14 PM, said:

'Cept we were talking about Omni's... and I know that the only omni you listed there is the Raptor...


The mechs in general that I'd like to see are a bit different...


Stinger / Wasp
Enfield
Crusader
Charger / Devastator

Ohhh I see

Men Shen instead of Lynx
BHawk Ku and Templar for omni assault

FLG 01, on 07 April 2017 - 12:17 PM, said:

I would buy them all. As a medium driver I like the Lynx best though.




Somebody's got to do it.

No, seriously, I know Katherine is about the worst thing that happened to the Lyrans, but would I know this if I actually were a Lyran and not omniscient thanks to the novels?
I guess I would go through a similar process like Adam Steiner, i.e. slowly realizing Katherine is bad for the Alliance but still not supporting Victor.

True.

[Gas Guzzler]

TheArisen, on 07 April 2017 - 12:18 PM, said:

Templar for omni assault

Does the Templar have good mounts? I know the Sunder has some tasty cockpit level shoulder mounts, and the arms are angled so they are slightly below the cockpit, but it doesn't have those low humanoid arms like the Templar. Just a thought! Podspace is around 35 for both I believe.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 07 April 2017 - 12:21 PM.

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Gas Guzzler, on 07 April 2017 - 12:21 PM, said:

Does the Templar have good mounts? I know the Sunder has some tasty cockpit level shoulder mounts, and the arms are angled so they are slightly below the cockpit, but it doesn't have those low humanoid arms like the Templar. Just a thought! Podspace is around 35 for both I believe.

40t of Pod space on the Templar, she's got Endo/FF and an IS-XL... her handy cap is crit lay out.

36t of Pod space on the Sunder, she lacks Endo/FF, but still has an IS-XL... so cavernous space for weapons and equipment.

The Templar prime boasts a SRM/4 at cockpit level with two ERML at waste height, in line all arm mounted weapons. The Templar's strength comes from large sheild arms, like the Battlemaster. Slightly wide torso and low weapon mounts are her weakness.... depending on how PGI goes about modeling it, they could pull a Battlemaster and high mount almost everything.... I would suspect that variants C-I on the Templar might see high mounts for all torso mounted weapons in those configurations...


Edit: I forgot to start with the base chassis on both, so the Templar actually has more base pod space...

Edit 2: Also worth understanding is the stock Sunder has 94% armour coverage while the Templar has 100%.

Edited by Metus regem, 07 April 2017 - 12:43 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Metus regem, on 07 April 2017 - 12:38 PM, said:

40t of Pod space on the Templar, she's got Endo/FF and an IS-XL... her handy cap is crit lay out.

36t of Pod space on the Sunder, she lacks Endo/FF, but still has an IS-XL... so cavernous space for weapons and equipment.

The Templar prime boasts a SRM/4 at cockpit level with two ERML at waste height, in line all arm mounted weapons. The Templar's strength comes from large sheild arms, like the Battlemaster. Slightly wide torso and low weapon mounts are her weakness.... depending on how PGI goes about modeling it, they could pull a Battlemaster and high mount almost everything.... I would suspect that variants C-I on the Templar might see high mounts for all torso mounted weapons in those configurations...


Edit: I forgot to start with the base chassis on both, so the Templar actually has more base pod space...

Edit 2: Also worth understanding is the stock Sunder has 94% armour coverage while the Templar has 100%.

Templar has endo but not ferro, but yeah so essentially the Templar has more tons for weapons, where the Sunder has more space and higher mounts. Hopefully the mounts aren't as horrid as I expect them to be on the Templar, but we should probably get both at some point.

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Gas Guzzler, on 07 April 2017 - 12:45 PM, said:

Templar has endo but not ferro, but yeah so essentially the Templar has more tons for weapons, where the Sunder has more space and higher mounts. Hopefully the mounts aren't as horrid as I expect them to be on the Templar, but we should probably get both at some point.

You're right, my bad on the FF on the Templar... As I said, the art work for the prime puts the RT mounted SSRM/4 and LT TC sensor at cockpit level, so I would feel very comfortable in thinking that the other variants that have ST weapons would put them at cockpit level.

Alt. C:
LT 3E

Alt D:
LT: 1B
RT: 1B

Alt E:
LT: 2E
RT: 1E

Alt F:
LT: 1E
RT: 1E

Alt G:
LT: 1B
RT: 1B

Alt H:
LT: 1E
RT: 1E

Alt I:
LT: 1E


How ever due to her crit set up, she can cram upto one normal Gauss Rifle into the LT... no Gauss Rifle in the RT, but you can have dual Light Gauss, one in each ST.... in fact that is a standard load out on one of the variants.

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Wouldn't the Templar's mounts be similar to the Battlemaster?

[Gas Guzzler]

Yeonne Greene, on 07 April 2017 - 12:56 PM, said:

Wouldn't the Templar's mounts be similar to the Battlemaster?

Would they? I have just never seen a Templar with shoulder mounted weapons near the cockpit..

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Yeonne Greene, on 07 April 2017 - 12:56 PM, said:

Wouldn't the Templar's mounts be similar to the Battlemaster?

In theory, they could be, provided you take the placement location of the SSRM/4 and TC sensor on the Templar as an indication of where PGI would likely place the weapon mounts.

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Gas Guzzler, on 07 April 2017 - 12:58 PM, said:

Would they? I have just never seen a Templar with shoulder mounted weapons near the cockpit..

Source: Field Manual: Federated Suns pg.162
note the SSRM/4 and TC sensor right by the cockpit.



Source: Novel Imminent Crisis cover
note the SSRM/4 and TC sensor right by the cockpit.