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#161 Bishop Steiner

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 02:22 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 15 January 2017 - 10:15 AM, said:

When I think urban combat, I always default to this.



That, and the MW4:Mercs mission to help the one planetary council get off-planet for free. God that mission was fun.

Honestly, the only thing I have against urban maps is that LRMs will need to get re-worked to be less terrible for direct LoS firing, with higher velocities and lower flight arcs. Do that, and by god I'll join the urban map hype.

who brings LRMs to a city fight?

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 02:56 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 07 March 2017 - 02:22 PM, said:

who brings LRMs to a city fight?


I do. I'm not a very smart man.

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 03:03 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 07 March 2017 - 02:56 PM, said:


I do. I'm not a very smart man.

You loco, bro.

#164 The Zohan

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 04:18 PM

Hes one affiliate of that merchant group that can barely called a clan. What did you expect?

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 04:22 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 07 March 2017 - 02:22 PM, said:

who brings LRMs to a city fight?


If buildings become destructible, I will -- along with artillery and air strikes -- and turn it into rubble. <maniacal Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image>

Edited by Mystere, 07 March 2017 - 04:23 PM.


#166 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 07 March 2017 - 09:35 PM

View PostBishop Steiner, on 07 March 2017 - 03:03 PM, said:

You loco, bro.


To be fair, C-LRM are not supposed to be the gigantic liability they currently are in a knife fight. Posted Image

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 06:03 AM

Maybe I'm greedy but I'd love for there to be an invasion/siege and QP version of this map like Grim portico/plexus

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 06:24 AM

Big City, Inner City, Space Port, Palace Gates, etc. all had what you folks are looking for, in varying degrees (PG had long firing lanes and close combat zones, for example). This was what.. 12-15 years ago depending on the patches/mech packs?

If PGI would turn their eye to maps and take a break from the constant mech releases I am sure more players would return, in addition to attracting newer folks.

Hell, do what MS did back in the early 00's and release Mech Packs - each pack had four mechs and two maps.
Shrug - i've only been playing 'Mech since MW3 on the 'Zone (with a long break after Mektek start hosting the servers, I just started playing MWO a little over a year ago). I'll keep playing, too, but i've decided to stop funding the experiment until there's more maps (i'd be willing to pay for them at this point).

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 07:11 AM

Something like the final mission in MW4 Mercs would be awesome. Palace with gates and walls. Tall buildings as far as the eye can see. Very limited open ground. Oh man, that would be awesome.

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 07:19 AM

View PostMcGoat, on 08 March 2017 - 06:24 AM, said:

Big City, Inner City, Space Port, Palace Gates, etc. all had what you folks are looking for, in varying degrees (PG had long firing lanes and close combat zones, for example). This was what.. 12-15 years ago depending on the patches/mech packs?

If PGI would turn their eye to maps and take a break from the constant mech releases I am sure more players would return, in addition to attracting newer folks.

Hell, do what MS did back in the early 00's and release Mech Packs - each pack had four mechs and two maps.
Shrug - i've only been playing 'Mech since MW3 on the 'Zone (with a long break after Mektek start hosting the servers, I just started playing MWO a little over a year ago). I'll keep playing, too, but i've decided to stop funding the experiment until there's more maps (i'd be willing to pay for them at this point).


12 - 15 years ago? :P

Also Pgi is currently finishing up the new mode, Incursion, which is slated for April.
https://mwomercs.com...ary-and-beyond/

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 08:15 AM

View PostTheArisen, on 08 March 2017 - 06:03 AM, said:

Maybe I'm greedy but I'd love for there to be an invasion/siege and QP version of this map like Grim portico/plexus


City invasion or siege?

How about this instead?

View PostMystere, on 02 April 2015 - 09:04 AM, said:

I also want more game modes ...

For example, consider two complementary and co-dependent game "modes":
  • Search and Destroy
  • Resistance
Let us then have a map whose characteristics are as follows:
  • large-scale urban
  • lots of skyscrapers (damaged or otherwise)
  • lots of long and narrow streets
  • lots of places to hide and ambush
  • EMF-noisy environment
Let us then set up these two game "modes" as follows:
  • "Search and Destroy" requires a "special forces" team to mop up the remnants of a defeated enemy discovered hiding in a large city.
    • tailored for groups, but anyone is allowed to join
  • "Resistance" requires a team of hardened and veteran freedom fighters to repel the enemy.
    • tailored for solo players and small groups (2-4) only
  • The "Search and Destroy" team is possibly larger (more players, higher tonnage and/or larger drop deck).
  • The "Resistance" team is possibly smaller (less players, lower tonnage, and/or smaller drop desk),
  • The "Search and Destroy" team needs to clear the city of the enemy (kill them all).
  • The "Resistance" team merely needs to survive.
  • Time limit is (for argument's sake) 45 minutes.
It's not your regular Skirmish mode, obviously.


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 09:10 AM

As a panther pilot I support this

THE ALLEY CAT SHALL REIGN SUPREME

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 09:37 AM

View PostThe Zohan, on 07 March 2017 - 04:18 PM, said:

Hes one affiliate of that merchant group that can barely called a clan. What did you expect?


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The hell is with this idiocy spreading? CDS is a proper Clan with every right to exist and have the rights and honors of every other Clan. And I find it rich coming from a CSJ pilot considering how often CDS kicked their rears.

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 09:55 AM

View PostRestosIII, on 08 March 2017 - 09:37 AM, said:


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The hell is with this idiocy spreading? CDS is a proper Clan with every right to exist and have the rights and honors of every other Clan. And I find it rich coming from a CSJ pilot considering how often CDS kicked their rears.


Also. CDS fills a very specific and important niche. To my knowledge, CDS is the ONLY Clan that actually seems to care about the importance of trade. When all the other Clans are gone or kill each other in honorable combat? CDS will be there, selling weapons, power armor and mechs to each side.

Plus they have some of the better written stories and characters.

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 10:00 AM

View PostTheArisen, on 08 March 2017 - 07:19 AM, said:

12 - 15 years ago? Posted Image

Also Pgi is currently finishing up the new mode, Incursion, which is slated for April.
https://mwomercs.com...ary-and-beyond/


Veng came out in '00, that'd be 17 years ago! Posted Image

'Mercs and the two Mech Packs came out in '02, 15 years ago. (Man, we've been playing with pixel bots for a while now)

Edited by McGoat, 08 March 2017 - 10:02 AM.


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 10:32 AM

View Postcazidin, on 08 March 2017 - 09:55 AM, said:


Also. CDS fills a very specific and important niche. To my knowledge, CDS is the ONLY Clan that actually seems to care about the importance of trade. When all the other Clans are gone or kill each other in honorable combat? CDS will be there, selling weapons, power armor and mechs to each side.

Plus they have some of the better written stories and characters.


Nova Cats, actually. Unsurprisingly, the Nova Cats and Diamond Sharks are tight. Nova Cats are not quite as mercantile, but, just like the Diamond Sharks, the merchant caste was given all but a free reign to do things as they please.

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 01:43 PM

View PostRestosIII, on 08 March 2017 - 09:37 AM, said:


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The hell is with this idiocy spreading? CDS is a proper Clan with every right to exist and have the rights and honors of every other Clan. And I find it rich coming from a CSJ pilot considering how often CDS kicked their rears they got smoked into extinction.


FTFY.

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 01:57 PM

Jaaaa, please an urban map......with a huge and empty plaza in the middle. PGI style! *claps excitedly for another snipefest*

Edited by Bush Hopper, 08 March 2017 - 01:57 PM.


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 02:03 PM

View PostBush Hopper, on 08 March 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

Jaaaa, please an urban map......with a huge and empty plaza in the middle. PGI style! *claps excitedly for another snipefest*

That is certainly not what I'm advocating, but whenever the PGI map designers get to work, there's a fair chance that there will be either a huge f**-off mountain in the center, or a vast empty space that leads to sniping across it or nascar around it. And if you're particularly unlucky, it's going to be.... a huge f***-off mountain with a vast empty space inside it! Posted Image

Edited by Tristan Winter, 08 March 2017 - 02:03 PM.


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 03:55 PM

View PostTristan Winter, on 08 March 2017 - 02:03 PM, said:

That is certainly not what I'm advocating, but whenever the PGI map designers get to work, there's a fair chance that there will be either a huge f**-off mountain in the center, or a vast empty space that leads to sniping across it or nascar around it. And if you're particularly unlucky, it's going to be.... a huge f***-off mountain with a vast empty space inside it! Posted Image


Why not a huge empty space with a vast mountain inside it? That's a possibility too.





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