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[Valdarion Silarius]

So with the January light mech announced as the Javelin (and we clanners still mourn for the lack of any new light mechs), let's get a prediction/speculation thread up and running. What are your predictions for the upcoming mechs to be filled in march? Describe your predictions and reasons below as well.


I would personally like to see them fill the gaps for an heavy/heavy pack for both sides with ideal tonnages. For the clans, I would like to see a clan heavy battlemech and the first heavy omnimech with the new 3060 era tech. So here it is.



Starting with the new clan omnimech with the new 3060 tech, I would like to see the Nova Cat filled for the first slot.


http://www.sarna.net...a_Cat_(OmniMech)

http://battletech.rp...ctory_frame.php (Search Nova Cat Prime in the search engine for more detail)

Spoiler

So why the Nova Cat for the first clan omnimech with the new tech? While it is technically introduced in 3059 (and yes I know it says 3060+), this would be the safest option for PGI to slowly introduce the new tech options with the currently existing tech. At 70 tons, this would be a solid option to add with the current existing Timber Wolf and Night Gyr in game. It would also be a good break from clan assaults since we had so many recently added as well.


The second slot should be filled by, yes you guessed it by reading so many of my posts, the Rifleman IIC.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Rifleman_IIC

http://battletech.rp...playmech&id=626

(Search Rifleman IIC in the search engine if the link above doesn't work)

Spoiler

So why the Rifleman IIC for the first clan battlemech with the new tech? Well, we have all seen what happened to the Marauder IIC. However, with the new tech it expands a whole new horizon for more lore friendly IIC mechs. With the older tech, we were limited to the Rifleman IIC Prime and the 2nd variant. Now we have access to variants 1 through 4 (and possibly 5 if PGI ignores the tech entry level since it has all the current tech on that chassis).


This mech would be a solid option to add in game with the new 3060+ tech. It would help improve drop decks in FW (65 tons), houses jump jets, a BAP, and it's absolutely brutal as a clan battlemech. Players can swap between clan standard engines to XL for additional speed and DHS's to help with it's 3/5 movement speed (this would essentially bump it up to 64.2 kmph, or the same stock speed as IS rifleman mechs) or players can keep the standard engine for more durability.





For the IS:

Toyama

http://www.sarna.net...ama_(BattleMech)

http://bg.battletech...p?topic=32447.0

Spoiler

So you might have caught onto my affiliations of liking high mounted weapon battlemechs. So why the Toyama? While technically it's first appearance was in 3057, it was included in the 3060 TRO manual thus regarded as one. This beast can mount some very useful high weaponry. Mixing ballistics and lasers is the key. I think this would be a fair counterpart to the Rifleman IIC since the IS would have now 3 heavies that mount similar weapon profiles (Jagermech, Rifleman and the Toyama).


Argus

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Argus

Spoiler

I was debating or not to have IS omnimechs in this post, but since the addition of new tech means the inevitability of the IS omnimech line. So why the hell not. So why the Argus? It would be an interesting design that will feature the first IS rotatory auto cannon to be implemented on a prime in game. Featuring speed (84 kmph), an IS beagle active probe, and MASC on one of the models (ASG-5D), it would be neat to see what IS players can do with this chassis and the first IS implemented omnipods.

TL:DR Clan Heavy Omnimech/Battlemech and IS Battlemech/1st Omnimech

Thoughts? Predictions? Post 'em down below.

Edited by Arnold The Governator, 19 January 2017 - 02:10 PM.

[Bombast]

Couldn't even let the Javelin have one day to stew, eh?

Anyway... I'm going to go with...

Inner Sphere

Sunder

Spoiler

Clan

Fire Moth

Spoiler

You heard it here first, folks - PGI is going to release differently tonned (And different faction) mechs at the same time.

Edited by Bombast, 18 January 2017 - 07:09 PM.

[Valdarion Silarius]

Bombast, on 18 January 2017 - 07:09 PM, said:

Couldn't even let the Javelin have one day to stew, eh?

It's not my fault they skipped over an overly needed clan light mech. *cough cough firemoth*.

[Bombast]

Arnold The Governator, on 18 January 2017 - 07:16 PM, said:

It's not my fault they skipped over an overly needed clan light mech. *cough cough firemoth*.

I wont argue with you. I'm an Inner Sphere player, and I actually like the Javelin, and I still think it should have been a Clan 20 tonner.

[TheArisen]

Arnold The Governator, on 18 January 2017 - 07:16 PM, said:

It's not my fault they skipped over an overly needed clan light mech. *cough cough firemoth*.

To be fair you guys got the previous light, the Jenner IIC.

Clan prediction:
Blood Asp or MCat Mk2, at least one of these will be in the pack for sure but not both because they're both 90t assaults
Firemoth, popular and it'd make the clanners happy that wanted their light mech

IS:
I want the Nightststar badly but I'm not confident. It does introduce new tech and it'd fill out the 95t slot
Sunder or Fafnir, first IS omni or HGR carrier
Second mech would be the Uziel, popular in polls and a nostalgia mech from MW4

[CK16]

IS
- Fafnir for future option
- Uziel
- possible Stinger/ Wasp

Clan
- Mad Cat Mk II
- Nova Cat
- possible Firemoth

[Valdarion Silarius]

bump

[Tristan Winter]

Here's why the next Clan non-light mech needs to be the Rifleman IIC:

• It's Unseen. Those mechs have proven very popular so far.
  
• It's one of the MW2 mechs. Nostalgia for everyone, not just the TT crowd.
  
• Canon variants with both heavy lasers and ATM.
  
• Clans need some mechs with really high arm mounts and no lower arm actuators, ala Jagermech and Rifleman.
  
• It has a samurai hat.

[Gas Guzzler]

Tristan Winter, on 19 January 2017 - 02:26 PM, said:

Here's why the next Clan non-light mech needs to be the Rifleman IIC:

• It's Unseen. Those mechs have proven very popular so far.
  
• It's one of the MW2 mechs. Nostalgia for everyone, not just the TT crowd.
  
• Canon variants with both heavy lasers and ATM.
  
• Clans need some mechs with really high arm mounts and no lower arm actuators, ala Jagermech and Rifleman.
  
• It has a samurai hat.

SO far down the list of Clan mechs to desire. Nova Cat, Mad Cat Mk. II, Blood Asp, Fire Moth and several others are all above the Roflman IIC.

[Tristan Winter]

Gas Guzzler, on 19 January 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:

SO far down the list of Clan mechs to desire. Nova Cat, Mad Cat Mk. II, Blood Asp, Fire Moth and several others are all above the Roflman IIC.

I can't hear what you're saying over the sound of how cool the Rifleman IIC is.



Besides. Blood Asp, Mad Cat Vol. 2 and Laser Cat are so mainstream. It's boring.

I'm holding out for the Riflesamurai and the Cougar. Neither is likely to be very meta, due to engine caps.

[Gas Guzzler]

Tristan Winter, on 19 January 2017 - 02:40 PM, said:

I can't hear what you're saying over the sound of how cool the Rifleman IIC is.



Besides. Blood Asp, Mad Cat Vol. 2 and Laser Cat are so mainstream. It's boring.

I'm holding out for the Riflesamurai and the Cougar. Neither is likely to be very meta, due to engine caps.

I'd really rather have the more firepower-oriented 70 tonner (compared to the agile Summoner) in the Nova Cat, than a 4th Clan 65 tonner.

[Metus regem]

Tristan Winter, on 19 January 2017 - 02:26 PM, said:

Here's why the next Clan non-light mech needs to be the Rifleman IIC:

• It's Unseen. Those mechs have proven very popular so far.
  
• It's one of the MW2 mechs. Nostalgia for everyone, not just the TT crowd.
  
• Canon variants with both heavy lasers and ATM.
  
• Clans need some mechs with really high arm mounts and no lower arm actuators, ala Jagermech and Rifleman.
  
• It has a samurai hat.

Warhammer IIC?



WHM-IIC-4

2xERPPC
2xAMT/6
1xERSL

Yes please!

[Tristan Winter]

Metus regem, on 19 January 2017 - 02:44 PM, said:

Warhammer IIC?
WHM-IIC-4
2xERPPC
2xAMT/6
1xERSL
Yes please!

I wouldn't buy it, but it's guaranteed to print money. And together with the Rifleman IIC and the Firemoth, it's one of three missing mechs from MW2.

[WarHippy]

I would like to see

Clans: Blood Asp and Nova Cat(Followed by Cougar, Fire Moth, and Thunderbolt IIC(although it is a 3085 mech)).

IS: Fafnir and Uziel(Followed by Hauptmann)

Edited by WarHippy, 19 January 2017 - 02:48 PM.

[Metus regem]

Tristan Winter, on 19 January 2017 - 02:46 PM, said:

I wouldn't buy it, but it's guaranteed to print money. And together with the Rifleman IIC and the Firemoth, it's one of three missing mechs from MW2.

She could be pretty quick too, with a 385 engine cap, thanks to her base of a 320....

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Clans: Blood Asp and Nova Cat
IS: Sagittaire/Albatross and Toyama

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 19 January 2017 - 10:06 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 19 January 2017 - 02:54 PM, said:

Clans: Blood Asp and Nova Cat
IS: Sagittaire and Toyama

The sad thing is you can almost guarantee that those 2 IS mechs won't be there, because they are almost never talked about/not iconic enough. I would be surprised if we got the Blood Asp dropped before the Mad Cat Mk. II.

Not to mention, could you imagine the rage deuce that would be dropped on the forums if that happened?

[Metus regem]

Gas Guzzler, on 19 January 2017 - 02:57 PM, said:

The sad thing is you can almost guarantee that those 2 IS mechs won't be there, because they are almost never talked about/not iconic enough. I would be surprised if we got the Blood Asp dropped before the Mad Cat Mk. II.

Not to mention, could you imagine the rage deuce that would be dropped on the forums if that happened?

I'd be around this level I think:

[Bombast]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 19 January 2017 - 02:54 PM, said:

Toyama

Sarna.net said:

Built due to an awkward exchange of technology between the Free Worlds League and the Word of Blake, the Toyama was designed by Dr. Thaddeus Anable and then given to the Word of Blake through an agreement made by Captain-General Thomas Marik.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Gas Guzzler, on 19 January 2017 - 02:57 PM, said:

The sad thing is you can almost guarantee that those 2 IS mechs won't be there, because they are almost never talked about/not iconic enough.

While I normally would agree, there isn't a really iconic mech that shows off new tech well and is powerful outside the Fafnir and a bunch of mediums that we don't really need. The Fafnir is cool, but I chose the Sagittaire because it would only be the second 95 tonner for the IS. I chose the Toyama purely because it would be a viable choice of a heavy for the IS and it happens to have future tech. That said, with the time jump, people are just going to have to accept that Word of Blake will be a thing.

Gas Guzzler, on 19 January 2017 - 02:57 PM, said:

I would be surprised if we got the Blood Asp dropped before the Mad Cat Mk. II.

Not to mention, could you imagine the rage deuce that would be dropped on the forums if that happened?

You will get salt either way, there are a lot of people who want a Blood Asp too, the Mad Cat MKII just has more vocal irritants. Plus the Blood Asp is more unique which is why I want to see it before the Mad Cat MKII.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 19 January 2017 - 03:09 PM.