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[Stefan the Usurper Amaris]

Is it because im using my warhammer too much PGI? I know i get them kills and all and it seems to me you want me to fail... its because of my name isnt it? Just say it PGI, its my name that bothers you...

[4rcs1ne]

Rampage, on 20 January 2017 - 09:25 PM, said:

When they buffed MG last patch they removed most of the ROF quirks from the Mechs that can equip them. A couple got missed. One was the Kit Fox and another was the Viper. People were gloating about that. Why is anyone surprised that they corrected their oversight?

Still doesn't take away from the fact that the Kitfox is a bad mech and needs all the help it can get. They should keep the ROF quirks on terrible mechs.

Edited by Matt2496, 20 January 2017 - 09:50 PM.

[Mystere]

MadIrish, on 20 January 2017 - 09:30 PM, said:

What's a Warhammer?

Here you go:

[Clownwarlord]

The one thing i know is my warhammer is greater than all your warhammers

[visionGT4]

Van Hoven, on 20 January 2017 - 06:34 PM, said:

The most questionable statement in the patch notes imho is this

"There's been much discussion about the option of IS XL Engines being provided the same benefits as Clan XL Engines, but in light of the other benefits provided by larger Engine sizes and the massive offensive boost XL Engines can facilitate, such a change is not currently conducive to appropriate XL versus Standard Engine balance."

Soo.... XL IS engines cant survive torso loss like clan engines because of XL and Standart Engine balance.

But its completely fine for clan that xls obsolete standarts.

*mind blown*

This statement from PGI really says it all. There is zero hope for any meaningful IS-Clan balance when its clear for all to see that the decision makers are blatantly biased towards the easy mode end of the spectrum.

PGI really has reached a new level of limp wristedness.

some 12 year old throws a tantrum screaming "I'm ENTITLED to my sh1t being better then the other guys" - pgi rolls over like a dog.

Pathetic is the word that springs to mind.

[MischiefSC]

I heard a rumor that a Kit Fox actually got a kill, so an alarm went off at PGI and nerfs were prepared immediately.

The others were just collateral damage.

[meteorol]

Can't really decide if the SHC nerf or the WHM nerf is more moronic.

The WHM nerf will have an impact though. SHC nerf not so much, because the mech is already irrelevant.

[a gaijin]

Bombast, on 20 January 2017 - 02:05 PM, said:

Because it's overperforming.

I'd just like to know where it's overperforming. Because I can honestly say that in the 60 or so matches I've had this season, I've seen maybe 2 Warhammer. Are they tearing apart CW or group queue or something? Tier 1 only matches, maybe?

I see them in every CW Invasion drop

[a gaijin]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 20 January 2017 - 02:25 PM, said:

I mean some of the Summoner nerfs were undeserved as well (PGI missing the point like they did with Clan XL and the Kodiaks) but I guess at least they are listening?

Both your war hammers and my summoners are getting "nerfed."

At least we can say they are impartial!

[Appogee]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 20 January 2017 - 02:01 PM, said:

As the title says, why exactly were Warhammers nerf instead of, you know, buffing IS mechs?

Because Warhammers were so totally OP compared to Night Gyrs, Timberwolves, and Ebon Jags.

LOLOLOLO0LOLOLOLPISSINGMYSELFLAUGHINGMYASSOFFATTHESEINCOMPETENTCLOWNS.

Edited by Appogee, 21 January 2017 - 04:04 AM.

[TWIAFU]

MischiefSC, on 20 January 2017 - 06:32 PM, said:

Help me understand -


Just in case I missed the Archer meta.

I just lost a full sip of coffee MSC, ty.

.... Archer meta....

Hehe


I will be giggling over that all day.

[Widowmaker1981]

Well, glad i bought 2 GHR-5Ps ages ago is all i can say. Ill just bring both of those to FP now. Tbh i already preferred it to the Whammy for LPL builds due to the slightly higher mounts and JJs

[prox]

If the WHR is "overperforming", is the Gyr "just fine" because it didn't see a nerf? lol

[Oberost]

Things like that and the Bushwacker quirks make me think that PGI has no ******* idea about their game.

[Appogee]

Widowmaker1981, on 21 January 2017 - 04:31 AM, said:

Well, glad i bought 2 GHR-5Ps ages ago is all i can say. Ill just bring both of those to FP now.

Next to be nerfed, no doubt.

The IS must not have access to any vaguely competitive Heavy Mechs. PGI have to compensate for all our underperforming Night Gyrs and Timbies

[Vonbach]

Appogee, on 21 January 2017 - 05:34 AM, said:

Next to be nerfed, no doubt.

The IS must not have access to any vaguely competitive Heavy Mechs. PGI have to compensate for all our underperforming Night Gyrs and Timbies

Pretty much. Clan bias is real.

[MacClearly]

Star Commander Horse, on 21 January 2017 - 03:37 AM, said:

I see them in every CW Invasion drop

Due to tonnage if you run 3 65 ton mechs what else you gonna bring?

[a gaijin]

MacClearly, on 21 January 2017 - 06:45 AM, said:

Due to tonnage if you run 3 65 ton mechs what else you gonna bring?

Not sayin that it's a bad thing (or good for that matter). It was just a statement of fact.

Same as "I see Mad-II-C and Kodiak in every Invasion drop."

I hardly ever, ever see any Summoner. Just me. That's off topic tho ;p

[Sjorpha]

Star Commander Horse, on 21 January 2017 - 06:50 AM, said:

Not sayin that it's a bad thing (or good for that matter). It was just a statement of fact.

Same as "I see Mad-II-C and Kodiak in every Invasion drop."

I hardly ever, ever see any Summoner. Just me. That's off topic tho ;p

Well the summoner is in that awkward place where it is both the chassis with two of the strongest builds in the entire game, the poptart and the brawler, and at the same time rarely seen.

The explanation obviously being that the best iterations of both builds are using the loyalty pods that relatively few people have, and that heavy mech srm brawling is kinda nich and not something you would bring to uncoordinateed quickdrops or as a staple in your FP dropdeck. It doesn't change the fact that these two builds are extremely good, but it makes it awkward to balance and analyze.

Summoners are rare in casual circumstances for sure, but I'm not surprised at all when I see large numbers of them in organised groups doing brawling or jumpsniping.

The Warhammer is the opposite, it's being punished for being the best heavy the IS have, disregarding the fact that the IS doesn't have ANY heavy that can match the best clan heavies. You see a lot of warhammers in FP, and that's probably why it's being nerfed, but it's kinda ridiculous.

PGI seems really oblivious when it comes to contextualizing their data.

Edited by Sjorpha, 21 January 2017 - 08:39 AM.

[a gaijin]

Sjorpha, on 21 January 2017 - 08:37 AM, said:

Well the summoner is in that awkward place where it is both the chassis with two of the strongest builds in the entire game, the poptart and the brawler, and at the same time rarely seen.

It doesn't change the fact that these two builds are extremely good, but it makes it awkward to balance and analyze.

I hate gettin off topic but have to say:
Why....why do you think SMNs are so rarely seen?

Granted, I'm not a comp player (interested but honestly not good enough ...without proper training), but know SMN's good at poptartin. That being said, in QP (or FW) it doesn't shine as much as it probably could...or should.

And how can it be a 'chassis with two of the strongest builds' when (as stated by pretty much everyone), "anything the Summoner can do the TimberWolf can do better."?

And because it has a few strong builds should not mean it needs to be hit with degrades. If that was truly the case, all metamechs.com tier 1 meta and comp tiered mechs should be, right?

No, that's the solution. IMHO.


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