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#21 Kanil

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 10:49 AM

View PostBattlemaster56, on 07 February 2017 - 10:41 AM, said:

Yea and probably the best Special paint scheme in the game yet.

Scorch says wait until you see it in game.

#22 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 10:50 AM

View PostMonkey Lover, on 07 February 2017 - 10:37 AM, said:


haha that would sure bring it to tier 1 Posted Image Most IS assault get 5% heatgen now Posted Image


BLR >> Supernova I can promise you that. I don't think 5-10% heat gen would be a bad thing with this guy, ESPECIALLY the non-C/non-Boiler variants. People need to remember that 62 kph laser vomit platforms aren't very good, especially when all hardpoints are low/mid or all in the arms.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 07 February 2017 - 10:52 AM.


#23 Monkey Lover

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 10:54 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 07 February 2017 - 10:50 AM, said:


BLR >> Supernova I can promise you that. I don't think 5-10% heat gen would be a bad thing with this guy. People need to remember that 62 kph laser vomit platforms aren't very good, especially when all hardpoints are low/mid or all in the arms.

10% sounds about right . The awesome is pulling 15%gen. I agree the arms and the low speed are going to make this a hard mech.

The shape is nice it will make it harder to ct i think.

Edited by Monkey Lover, 07 February 2017 - 10:55 AM.


#24 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 10:57 AM

View PostMonkey Lover, on 07 February 2017 - 10:54 AM, said:

10% sounds about right . The awesome is pulling 15%gen. I agree the arms and the low speed are going to make this a hard mech.

The shape is nice it will make it harder to ct i think.


I think it will be easy to hide a damaged side torso due to the shape, but that also means that it will have pretty large side torsos. Clan XL means that is okay though.

Yeah even with 10% I don't think it would be tier one. For a mech that is slow like this that doesn't have high hardpoints, its going to have to commit and put its balls on the line to do damage.. it would help if it didn't overheat on the second shot.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:02 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 07 February 2017 - 10:57 AM, said:

Yeah even with 10% I don't think it would be tier one. For a mech that is slow like this that doesn't have high hardpoints, its going to have to commit and put its balls on the line to do damage.. it would help if it didn't overheat on the second shot.

Which makes the low engine cap all the more disappointing, because if it has to commit that generally means it is more meant for pushing which requires speed. I mean if this mech could be like a better Boars Head I'm cool with that, but chances are it won't.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:30 AM

View PostShiroi Tsuki, on 07 February 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

Am I the only one that keeps imagining that those arms rotate similar to the Drakken Laser Drill whenever lazurs are fired?

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https://gfycat.com/FailingSolidAxolotl

Edit: Or this
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Now I'm just imagining its arms to be Gatling Lasers from Fallout. Thanks for that.

#27 Battlemaster56

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:35 AM

View PostRestosIII, on 07 February 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:


Now I'm just imagining its arms to be Gatling Lasers from Fallout. Thanks for that.

C-Rotary Pulse Lasers new PGI weapon made canon yes?

#28 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:42 AM

View PostBattlemaster56, on 07 February 2017 - 11:35 AM, said:

C-Rotary Pulse Lasers new PGI weapon made canon yes?

More like that is what Pulse lasers in general should've been. Rapid fire laser weapons that are meant for DPS.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:45 AM

View PostBattlemaster56, on 07 February 2017 - 10:41 AM, said:

Yea and probably the best Special paint scheme in the game yet.

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How can one say this is a terrible paint job.


Not really it would barely even touch mid tier, since theirs better assaults that can do the laser vomit/ erppc game than the Supernova. Also I really don't care much for IS assaults other than the ones I'm saving up for(and you can guest which one I've been having my eye on for awhile.).


It's nothing new believe it or not. As a matter of fact I'll just leave this here....

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(Keep in mind this was long before the Supernova was announced in MW:O)

#30 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:48 AM

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 07 February 2017 - 11:42 AM, said:

More like that is what Pulse lasers in general should've been. Rapid fire laser weapons that are meant for DPS.


THEY TRIED THAT QUICKSILVER. THEY LOWERED THE DAMAGE AND INCREASED THE COOLDOWN SO THEY HAD A TINY BIT HIGHER DPS, WITH MORE HEAT PER SECOND TO BALANCED THE HIGHER DPS. THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T LIKE IT SO OBVIOUSLY DPS PULSE LASERS IN ANY FORM AREN'T GOOD!

#31 CK16

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:48 AM

View PostArnold The Governator, on 07 February 2017 - 11:45 AM, said:


It's nothing new believe it or not. As a matter of fact I'll just leave this here....

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(Keep in mind this was long before the Supernova was announced in MW:O)


That's not what it's based off of, special skin seems based off a Nova Cat paint scheme. Go check camospecs bet you can find something close.

#32 Battlemaster56

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:52 AM

View PostArnold The Governator, on 07 February 2017 - 11:45 AM, said:


It's nothing new believe it or not. As a matter of fact I'll just leave this here....

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(Keep in mind this was long before the Supernova was announced in MW:O)

I mean the idea of space camo been out for a good while, I was just saying for most of the Special camo the Supernova have the best one in my opinion so far.

Also what game is that I want to say I know but I could be horribly wrong.

View PostGas Guzzler, on 07 February 2017 - 11:48 AM, said:


THEY TRIED THAT QUICKSILVER. THEY LOWERED THE DAMAGE AND INCREASED THE COOLDOWN SO THEY HAD A TINY BIT HIGHER DPS, WITH MORE HEAT PER SECOND TO BALANCED THE HIGHER DPS. THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T LIKE IT SO OBVIOUSLY DPS PULSE LASERS IN ANY FORM AREN'T GOOD!

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#33 Quicksilver Aberration

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:53 AM

View PostBattlemaster56, on 07 February 2017 - 11:52 AM, said:

Also what game is that I want to say I know but I could be horribly wrong.

Pretty sure it is CS:GO.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:54 AM

View PostQuicksilver Kalasa, on 07 February 2017 - 11:53 AM, said:

Pretty sure it is CS:GO.

Thought so.

#35 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:55 AM

View PostBattlemaster56, on 07 February 2017 - 11:52 AM, said:



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My post was satirical so..

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 11:55 AM

View PostCK16, on 07 February 2017 - 11:48 AM, said:

That's not what it's based off of, special skin seems based off a Nova Cat paint scheme. Go check camospecs bet you can find something close.


Maybe it is maybe it isn't. That is not to say that the Rifleman legend killer out of all things isn't based off the M4a1 hyperbeast from CS:GO. I'm willing to bet that both were influenced to appeal to the steam players. There is way too many similarities.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 12:33 PM

I would go as far as predicting the Supernopeva might actually be quite survivable with what looks like a compact profile.

Laser exclusive hardpoints makes it very difficult to build something MWO-workable but the key is not to use all the available hardpoints. Sure you'll sacrifice alpha output but with more heatsinks you'll be able to alpha/volley more often with what you do have and be able to manage the heat a lot better.

Still hate pure lazorbowts though.

Edited by Milocinia, 07 February 2017 - 12:36 PM.


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 01:47 PM

Yeah....

I am against this idea. Fire more than two and you get ghost heat. There is a reason for this balance and to remove it doesn't make sense.

It is OK if the Supernova isn't great. The King Crab isn't terrific either and the Kodiak and Marauder IIC are terrific. So having it be decent or on par with the King Crab would certainly be reasonable.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 01:54 PM

View PostMacClearly, on 07 February 2017 - 01:47 PM, said:

I am against this idea. Fire more than two and you get ghost heat. There is a reason for this balance and to remove it doesn't make sense.


That's debatable. Balance might actually be better if you COULD fire 3 ER LL. Since you can't there is no reason to take cER LLs over cER PPCs.

Further confining it to the low slung arms of a slow 90 tonner, means it definitely wouldn't even be overbearing.

View PostMacClearly, on 07 February 2017 - 01:47 PM, said:

It is OK if the Supernova isn't great. The King Crab isn't terrific either and the Kodiak and Marauder IIC are terrific. So having it be decent or on par with the King Crab would certainly be reasonable.


Eh the King Crab is kind of weak. I would prefer it be better than a King Crab. I would prefer it be on par with the good, useful mechs, like the Banshee/Battlemaster/Executioner/Stalker/Cyclops.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 01:54 PM

View PostMacClearly, on 07 February 2017 - 01:47 PM, said:

Yeah....

I am against this idea. Fire more than two and you get ghost heat. There is a reason for this balance and to remove it doesn't make sense.

It is OK if the Supernova isn't great. The King Crab isn't terrific either and the Kodiak and Marauder IIC are terrific. So having it be decent or on par with the King Crab would certainly be reasonable.


Pretty sure the King Crab has quirks for its ballistics though...to help it's niche as a gun boat...Super Nova's is stuck with energy boating LARGE caliber energy weapons...that it realisticly can't even run because of Ghost Heat kicks the **** out of ER larger lasers along with its stupid long burn time..the Supernova will be inferior if it has nothing going for it to be niche...I am.not asking for broken niche just something to make it scary...like how the Warhawk is know for PPC slinging, this stuck hold be known for ER Large laser sniping and be able to run it reliably....Giving it this niche would not make it OP, just viable.





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