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[Jables McBarty]

I've never seen this before, and then it happens twice in one week:

Dude gets angry b/c potatoes go and potato, so he petulantly goes and powers down in a corner until the timer runs out.

No intent to play, not even a "death and glory" attempt to get all the kills.

On both occasions the griefer--two different people--explicitly said "you guys suck, so now I am going to make you wait."

Has this always been happening, and it's just the first I've seen? Or is this a new low in online gaming behavior?

[jjm1]

Its called childish petulance.

I've had to wait out these little tantrums before and its certainly deserving of them getting a holiday.

PGI could do a lot more to make sure it cant happen.

[El Bandito]

[Redacted]

Edited by draiocht, 24 February 2017 - 01:16 AM.
griefing issue

[Skipmagnet]

This is especially enjoyable when it's a former top-tier streamer that was banned playing on a new account intent on just being a herpaderp for reasons.

Yes, the cars on Crimson move when you shoot them, now will you please help the guy that is on fire?

[RestosIII]

'sees the salt here already'

Spoiler

Anyways, I haven't run into it in awhile, but it's effective at making me angry, that's for sure. If your team got steamrolled, they're already having a bad time. "Punishing" them, and the enemy team, by hiding shutdown in a corner? That's just you making the match and game itself more toxic for everyone else.

Edited by RestosIII, 23 February 2017 - 10:36 PM.

[Dirus Nigh]

Just report the dude that shuts down.

I think a poster needs a nap.

[RestosIII]

CadoAzazel, on 23 February 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

Here's an adorable kitten gif to help calm things down.

Spoiler

Aaaaaaanyways... I probably should have mentioned this earlier, but, you DO realize it's against the CoC to shutdown just to wait out the timer when you'll lose anyways, right?

Edited by RestosIII, 23 February 2017 - 11:36 PM.

[Kasumi Sumika]

Just report the griefers silently so PGI could looking to it.

If my team getting stomped badly I just turned on override shutdown then I force myself to charge in to enemies. Because it's more honorable than sit down cowardly and insulting your team like a edgy spoiled brat. Because I'm honorable Clansmen!

[Bohxim]

The way I see it, sure you could get potatoes in ur team in quick play with competitive players on other. But sometimes it's the other way round and you get competitive players with potatoes on other team. Tho it is quite scary to see some major league units on the other team but don't recognise anyone on your own, sometimes miracles still happen and you win a hard fight!
As much as it's called an objective and you've lost fights where you killed everyone and lost on caps, how often does it happen? If say more often then not, you'd lose when team splits up too much to get caps and ignores a 10 man death ball

[draiocht]

To report a player for griefing, a player may use the in-game player context-menu or
can email moderation@mwomercs.com with any details and/or evidence available.

[mod]Removed unconstructive reply-chain and related off-topic posts.[/mod]

[TWIAFU]

Jables McBarty, on 23 February 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

I've never seen this before, and then it happens twice in one week:

Dude gets angry b/c potatoes go and potato, so he petulantly goes and powers down in a corner until the timer runs out.

No intent to play, not even a "death and glory" attempt to get all the kills.

On both occasions the griefer--two different people--explicitly said "you guys suck, so now I am going to make you wait."

Has this always been happening, and it's just the first I've seen? Or is this a new low in online gaming behavior?

1. Tab > Click the [Redacted] name > Report
2. Screenshot, in the future, and send that in. If you can or did capture what he says/said, send it!

People like this must be removed from MWO and humanity itself.

Edited by draiocht, 24 February 2017 - 09:42 AM.
inappropriate language

[Yanlowen Cage]

Well from the opposite side of the discussion I would like to point out that on back to back and more games yesterday my team melted like water vs. the other team. Leaving either one or two players to face overwhelming enemy firepower. Normally the last guys are lights or mediums. But what I am getting at is that is that in one match the last guy closed with and killed a bad guy, but in the process lost his leg. He slowly moved around the map trying to engage the other team as much as he could. The other team keep yelling rude comments and supposedly reported him. Even though we kept telling them in open chat that he was not griefing and he was trying. Then very next match I am left alone and damaged up pretty good and am fighting 5 enemy mechs. So the whole time (being in a light with some ranged punch) I am sticking and moving. Trying to get position and hurt the other team. Got a kill then got caught. Anyway the whole time the other team is griefing me about how I was (not) trying to play and how they were going to report me. name calling by the other team about how I was wasting their time. I tried to explain to them that I was still playing and using the only reasonable option that I had left to try and pull out a win. Either way the winning team can grief people just as hard with chat abuse as a player just powering down. I do not agree with either play. But what do you expect the last guy to do? walk out to the center, power down, and take his death? that in itself seems like griefing. I would not expect that of the other team and would not do it myself. So stop the grief on people from both direction and encourage the players to try their hardest no matter what. BTW some of the best games I have ever spectated or played in have been a lone mechwarrior fighting for his life at the end of a match. I personally had matches where I as the last player on my team have fought to the bitter end and won against all odds. And for proof that one guy at the end can make a difference. not a brag just evidence.

[Stone Wall]

Jables McBarty, on 23 February 2017 - 09:03 PM, said:

Has this always been happening, and it's just the first I've seen? Or is this a new low in online gaming behavior?

I've been in the MechWarrior community since 1999, it's uber salty bro.

[Marius Romanis]

Stone Wall, on 24 February 2017 - 04:34 AM, said:

I've been in the MechWarrior community since 1999, it's uber salty bro.

You think MWO is bad you haven't heard of league of legends, Call of duty or 995 of other multiplayer communities then, this is one of the best ive seen.

[Jables McBarty]

Wow, looks like I missed some intense discussion after I went to bed last night.

Not sure what the particular rage was (it's already redacted), but I forgot to include in my OP that in both instances I was leveling an unbasicked 'mech, so I couldn't just exit and requeue up =/

I did report in both instances, and implored both teams to do so.

Still, don't be that guy. Potatoes gonna potato - don't punish everyone else b/c you can't handle the fact that other people are incompetent.

Thanks for the positive responses

[Jables McBarty]

Yanlowen Cage, on 24 February 2017 - 03:27 AM, said:

Well from the opposite side of the discussion I would like to point out that on back to back and more games yesterday my team melted like water vs. the other team. Leaving either one or two players to face overwhelming enemy firepower. Normally the last guys are lights or mediums. But what I am getting at is that is that in one match the last guy closed with and killed a bad guy, but in the process lost his leg. He slowly moved around the map trying to engage the other team as much as he could. The other team keep yelling rude comments and supposedly reported him. Even though we kept telling them in open chat that he was not griefing and he was trying. Then very next match I am left alone and damaged up pretty good and am fighting 5 enemy mechs. So the whole time (being in a light with some ranged punch) I am sticking and moving. Trying to get position and hurt the other team. Got a kill then got caught. Anyway the whole time the other team is griefing me about how I was (not) trying to play and how they were going to report me. name calling by the other team about how I was wasting their time. I tried to explain to them that I was still playing and using the only reasonable option that I had left to try and pull out a win. Either way the winning team can grief people just as hard with chat abuse as a player just powering down. I do not agree with either play. But what do you expect the last guy to do? walk out to the center, power down, and take his death? that in itself seems like griefing. I would not expect that of the other team and would not do it myself. So stop the grief on people from both direction and encourage the players to try their hardest no matter what. BTW some of the best games I have ever spectated or played in have been a lone mechwarrior fighting for his life at the end of a match. I personally had matches where I as the last player on my team have fought to the bitter end and won against all odds. And for proof that one guy at the end can make a difference. not a brag just evidence.

Yeah, these are situations where it's legit. I use the report feature sparingly.

First instance this week was Assault on PH. Dude was in a Cataphract stripped of all weapons, last one alive against five enemies, powers down and waits till the timer runs out or the enemy team caps to win. It wasn't just me trying to interpret his behavior (wasn't trying to cap their base) to say he was griefing: he was explicitly saying "lurm assault potatoes [Redacted] me, now I [Redacted] them."

Edited by draiocht, 24 February 2017 - 09:52 AM.
inappropriate language

[Tarogato]

draiocht, on 24 February 2017 - 01:40 AM, said:

To report a player for griefing, a player may use the in-game player context-menu or can email moderation@mwomercs.com with any details and/or evidence available.

Roadbuster, on 24 February 2017 - 06:50 AM, said:

Just report the player for nonparticipation, and press F9 and tell the other team his coordinates.

PGI removed the option to report players in game for intentional non-participation. (I'm pretty sure it used to exist, but there's a slight chance it was my imagination.) The only griefing options are I believe "Team Damage", "Team Killing", "Assisting the Enemy", and "AFK". None of these are appropriate for chronic non-participators: people who actively avoid engagement at the end of a match just to draw it out for no reason.

Draiocht, could you possibly pass this along to PGI that this is unacceptable? I'd like to be able to properly report players who are disrupting games by intentionally wasting time.

Edited by Tarogato, 24 February 2017 - 08:06 AM.

[Wildstreak]

No matter how much you do not like someone and/or their behavior, telling the other team their coordinates is also a reportable offense.

[Captain Polux]

Someone went on a tirade last night, cussed everyone out, and threatened to leave. It's amazing that there's this population of people that are literally human diapers.

[draiocht]

Tarogato, on 24 February 2017 - 08:03 AM, said:

PGI removed the option to report players in game for intentional non-participation. (I'm pretty sure it used to exist, but there's a slight chance it was my imagination.) The only griefing options are I believe "Team Damage", "Team Killing", "Assisting the Enemy", and "AFK". None of these are appropriate for chronic non-participators: people who actively avoid engagement at the end of a match just to draw it out for no reason.

Draiocht, could you possibly pass this along to PGI that this is unacceptable? I'd like to be able to properly report players who are disrupting games by intentionally wasting time.

The in-game context-menu is currently separated as Griefing (Team Damage, Team Killing, Assisting the Enemy) and Nonparticipation (Suiciding, AFK). The most accurate selections right now would be (Griefing > Assisting the Enemy) or (Nonparticipation > AFK), depending on the circumstances.

I'll forward the UI request to Community Manager Tina Benoit.

Wildstreak, on 24 February 2017 - 08:16 AM, said:

No matter how much you do not like someone and/or their behavior, telling the other team their coordinates is also a reportable offense.

And yes, that's correct. That would also be considered assisting the enemy. PGI Support will investigate reported misconduct as to whether a situation is nonparticipation or natural gameplay (such as ambushes or strategic evasions).

Edited by draiocht, 24 February 2017 - 09:22 AM.