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[KingCobra]

This last few weeks in solo play LRM boats rule the battlefield even taking good cover and AMS lrm's are overpowering. I have to ask has PGI nerfed AMS?

Personally I think the missile arc is just way to high even in good cover the missiles Clan or IS are just flying up and over buildings and cover that they should not hit you.

So maybe we need a poll and try to get PGI to lower the missile arc some or maybe fix the AMS to work properly?

Edited by KingCobra, 12 March 2017 - 09:59 PM.

[RestosIII]

No, LRMs haven't been buffed, and AMS hasn't been nerfed. Dear god please don't try to make a bad weapon worse.

[Clownwarlord]

WHERE? I like lrmaggedon, although I haven't seen a true lrmaggedon since the jager came out years ago. That was the same time splash damage went into the game.

[KingCobra]

Restoslll said (No, LRMs haven't been buffed, and AMS hasn't been nerfed. Dear god please don't try to make a bad weapon worse. )
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I disagree and maybe you should play more and get off the forums more?

[Appogee]

It's probably a symptom of fewer experienced players playing, leaving only newer players who don't know any better than bringing LRMs.

[KingCobra]

Clownlord said (WHERE?)

Mostly in SOLO MM but also lately in FP with Clans the rain of missiles never ends must be a new META tactic

Appogee answer =UHHH like evil-420-ECT are new players with a ton of LRMS? or maybe all the tagged SOLO MM players as well?

Edited by KingCobra, 12 March 2017 - 10:14 PM.

[InspectorG]

KingCobra, on 12 March 2017 - 10:13 PM, said:

Clownlord said (WHERE?)

Mostly in SOLO MM but also lately in FP with Clans the rain of missiles never ends must be a new META tactic

UHHH like evil-420-ECT are new players with a ton of LRMS? or maybe all the tagged SOLO MM players as well?

Inflating damage as much as possible to farm Cbills for the Skill Tree.

[RestosIII]

KingCobra, on 12 March 2017 - 10:10 PM, said:

Restoslll said (No, LRMs haven't been buffed, and AMS hasn't been nerfed. Dear god please don't try to make a bad weapon worse. )
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I disagree and maybe you should play more and get off the forums more?

Or maybe I play plenty and you're just bad at fighting a terrible weapon system?

[KingCobra]

InspectorG said (Inflating damage as much as possible to farm Cbills for the Skill Tree.)
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Now this I can believe and no IM not skilling up my 52 mechs again to time wasting and costly. Its not worth it.

[Bishop Steiner]

RestosIII, on 12 March 2017 - 10:17 PM, said:

Or maybe I play plenty and you're just bad at fighting a terrible weapon system?

Unless I see some patchnotes or game data to prove otherwise, I gotta go with the latter. LRMs are still laughably bad in 90% of situations, the only major exception still being when you get a good spotter on Polar Highlands.

[KingCobra]

Restos said (Or maybe I play plenty and you're just bad at fighting a terrible weapon system?)
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I doubt it IM not the greatest player I admit but I think something has changed I equip AMS on every mech with 2 tons AMS ammo so like I said maybe they buffed missiles or killed off AMS for good. And I no how cover works DUHHHH.

So maybe your lost on a island?

Missle arc has always been way to high CHOW.

[Carl Vickers]

Clan Davion player complains about lurms, irony alert.

[Clownwarlord]

InspectorG, on 12 March 2017 - 10:14 PM, said:

Inflating damage as much as possible to farm Cbills for the Skill Tree.

Hey if it works then why not.

[RestosIII]

KingCobra, on 12 March 2017 - 10:21 PM, said:

Restos said (Or maybe I play plenty and you're just bad at fighting a terrible weapon system?)
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I doubt it IM not the greatest player I admit but I think something has changed I equip AMS on every mech with 2 tons AMS ammo so like I said maybe they buffed missiles or killed off AMS for good. And I no how cover works DUHHHH.

Except none of the patches in months have had any changes to AMS at all. So unless you're claiming they did a stealth nerf that no-one else has noticed, which is inphintessimally unlikely...

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So maybe your lost on a island?

Really? Really.

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Missle arc has always been way to high CHOW.

Actually, it's in an alright spot currently. Unlike it's velocity.

[Weeny Machine]

Appogee, on 12 March 2017 - 10:11 PM, said:

It's probably a symptom of fewer experienced players playing, leaving only newer players who don't know any better than bringing LRMs.

I suspect that this is also one of the issues why more and more rolls happen. These LRMoverlords lurm their way up to higher tiers because LRMs do inflated damage numbers without being able to fire direct weapons accurately.
Then they find themselves in matches against teams with experienced players and not on Polar HighLRMlands, and are responsible that their team gets creamed royally. Simply because hiding at the fringe of the map behind a wall of rocks firing LRMs on 900m with their LRM-Assault mech doesn't do the job anymore.

RestosIII, on 12 March 2017 - 10:17 PM, said:

Or maybe I play plenty and you're just bad at fighting a terrible weapon system?

I don't think LRMs are great and prefer "normal" weapons myself, however, LRMs being totally useless is also exaggerated. The moment you understand that LRMs should be fired at mid range, they become useful.

Using them as a suppression weapon to eas pressure on your team or pin a mech in place is also neat, simply because everyone who sees the missile message will take cover.

Edited by Bush Hopper, 12 March 2017 - 10:35 PM.

[Mcgral18]

Let's be fully honest here:

You aren't terribly good


Your average score is less than half of mine, the majority of it in a 40 ton mech (otherwise, 85)
Both have faced a fair amount of LURMs, but rarely did they pose an issue


That's because I know where walls are, and what they do.

I, personally, hope to see more LURM boats. Because they're awesome for things like this



You'd hate to see an actual Lurmageddon
What we have now is more of a... LULageddon

Edited by Mcgral18, 13 March 2017 - 02:47 AM.

[Appogee]

Bush Hopper, on 12 March 2017 - 10:27 PM, said:

I suspect that this is also one of the issues why more and more rolls happen. These LRMoverlords lurm their way up to higher tiers because LRMs do inflated damage numbers without being able to fire direct weapons accurately.
Then they find themselves in matches against teams with experienced players and not on Polar HighLRMlands, and are responsible that their team gets creamed royally. Simply because hiding at the fringe of the map behind a wall of rocks firing LRMs on 900m with their LRM-Assault mech doesn't do the job anymore.

I think you may be right.

Edited by Appogee, 12 March 2017 - 10:35 PM.

[Carl Vickers]

Ye gods McGral,

Do you know how much of a nightmare that is going to be for him to copy/pasta as he cant do quote.

[Appogee]

Mcgral18, on 12 March 2017 - 10:30 PM, said:

You'd hate to see an actual Lurmageddon. What we have now is more of a... LULageddon

Yeah LRMs are only dangerous when they're on your team.

Those are some impressive stats. What Mechs/loadouts are you mostly playing to get an 8.1 k/d? Are you playing as part of a team or mostly solo?

(This month I'm still leveling crappy Mechs in the PUG queue, before they finally become worthless under skilltreeageddon.)

Edited by Appogee, 12 March 2017 - 10:38 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Carl Vickers, on 12 March 2017 - 10:31 PM, said:

Ye gods McGral,

Do you know how much of a nightmare that is going to be for him to copy/pasta as he cant do quote.

Well, if we spent more time actually in the game, like him, and less time forumwarrioring, we probably wouldn't know how to use that great big "QUOTE" button, either.