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[Yonkers]

I would definitely buy the uziel and the hero if it included some time with it. Otherwise forget it.

[Satan n stuff]

I haven't played MWO in quite a while, partly due to technical difficulties and partly because the game has gotten stale for me.
All this shiny new tech and those mechs, most of which people including myself have been asking for for literally years for me add up to a perfect reason to return to the game. In particular, the mechs on the IS side happen to be among the very few mechs left that I would consider paying for. Still there are some weapon systems that are conspicuously absent especially on the artillery side of things. Of course since most of those are IS weapons it would pose a serious problem balance wise if those were to be added and I'm not exactly confident PGI will get the balance for just the weapons they've announced anywhere near right at release.

Anyway, rocket launchers and light fusion engines are finally going to be added and my Commandos are ready, are yours?

[Axex]

The Annihilator.

​My all time favorite from MW3.

Interesting Mech.
One of the few Mechs the CLANS brought BACK when they returned from exile according to lore.

So it isn't really an IS Mech, is it?

Does that mean we can use CLAN weapons / equipment / paint scheme's on it?

[Nightshade24]

I have a soft spot for all but the annihlator here due to MW4: Mercs.

I will buy the Cougar and Mad Cat MK II and if I can somehow get more money, the other mechs too.

I've waited for a long time for these mechs and all that sweet sweet 3060's stuff... it only makes me gasp at what things may come forth

Axex, on 16 March 2017 - 08:01 AM, said:

The Annihilator.

​My all time favorite from MW3.

Interesting Mech.
One of the few Mechs the CLANS brought BACK when they returned from exile according to lore.

So it isn't really an IS Mech, is it?

Does that mean we can use CLAN weapons / equipment / paint scheme's on it?

technically yes but it's an IS mech with IS tech, it'll not be able to use Clan tech. it's a weird mech out there... the same way how our Hero Warhammmer and Wolfhound are technically clanners...
soon... Osiris?... Fafnir?!.... Thanatos? PGI do you want me to go bankrupt?

[Peiper]

Axex, on 16 March 2017 - 08:01 AM, said:

The Annihilator.

​My all time favorite from MW3.

Interesting Mech.
One of the few Mechs the CLANS brought BACK when they returned from exile according to lore.

So it isn't really an IS Mech, is it?

Does that mean we can use CLAN weapons / equipment / paint scheme's on it?

It's a weird one. According to Sarna, it was developed before the exodus, and returned with Wolfs Dragoons. The all clan tech version is a Wolfs Dragoons version, not produced on the clan homeworlds. In MW3, we faced them in operation Bulldog as fielded by CSJ, but I believe that to be apocryphal. There's no evidence other than the video game that the clans used (non clan tech) IS mechs as second line mechs unless they got desperate, ran out of mechs, and had to press into service isorla (captured mechs).

[Rekkon]

I cannot unsee the Master Chief helmet Belial head, and once I started down that path, the Mk. II's arms became Halo cruisers.

[Sevronis]

So after the initial euphoria of these newly announced mechs, I managed to stop myself from buying them right away like I usually do. For one, I'm glad I noticed the premium time stated Active and not Banked.. and that it was less than previous collector mech packs. Also, the Uziel should be cheaper than either of the assault packages. As I would be pre-ordering all 4 ultimate packs anyway, a bulk discount might increase sales. I'm going to give myself until the April 30th deadline to decide, unless of course PGI makes the purchases more worth the money for me to spend before the deadline instead of waiting and getting them separately over time. Would be the first time I hesitated to buy the largest packs too.

EDIT: Also... are those XP/CB bonus cockpit items a one time thing if you pre-order early, or will they be purchasable later on?

Edited by Sevronis, 16 March 2017 - 08:46 AM.

[Rekkon]

Peiper, on 16 March 2017 - 08:36 AM, said:

It's a weird one. According to Sarna, it was developed before the exodus, and returned with Wolfs Dragoons. The all clan tech version is a Wolfs Dragoons version, not produced on the clan homeworlds. In MW3, we faced them in operation Bulldog as fielded by CSJ, but I believe that to be apocryphal. There's no evidence other than the video game that the clans used (non clan tech) IS mechs as second line mechs unless they got desperate, ran out of mechs, and had to press into service isorla (captured mechs).

There is actually. The Clan sourcebooks list numerous garrison units with IS mechs. The Jade Falcon one also has Horse listed in a regular Marauder for Tukayyid.

[Arkhangel]

Sevronis, on 16 March 2017 - 08:39 AM, said:

So after the initial euphoria of these newly announced mechs, I managed to stop myself from buying them right away like I usually do. For one, I'm glad I noticed the premium time stated Active and not Banked.. and that it was less than previous collector mech packs. Also, the Uziel should be cheaper than either of the assault packages. As I would be pre-ordering all 4 ultimate packs anyway, a bulk discount might increase sales. I'm going to give myself until the April 30th deadline to decide, unless of course PGI makes the purchases more worth the money for me to spend before the deadline instead of waiting and getting them separately over time. Would be the first time I hesitated to buy the largest packs too.

EDIT: Also... are those XP/CB bonus cockpit items a one time thing if you pre-order early, or will they be purchasable later on?

I'd be fairly sure they're a one-time, and possibly WHY there's no banked premium, as they essentially just give you a bit of the bonus from premium time permanently.

@Rekkon: the Annihilator, however, was a Wolf's Dragoons-only Mech until around the Civil War period, so it's highly unlikely the Jags would have had any. Captured Kurita/Operation Bulldog Mechs, yes, but not Annihilators. they did after all lose the one battle they canonically actually had against the Dragoons (as far as i know), on Luthien.

Edited by Arkhangel, 16 March 2017 - 08:51 AM.

[Sardauker Legion]

aGentleWarrior, on 14 March 2017 - 01:07 PM, said:

Hey PGI, that is some impressive artwork!
All the mechs look very desirable, even the ugly annihilator - your interpretation looks just cool!

BUT - the early adopter reward... no special additional variant? no premium time? add at least some dozens of supply keys!

I had to double check: the assassin is the last mech with 30 days premium time - standard pack, Civil War mechs have no premium time.
Would be nice if such a change would be officially announced, not everyone checks the small written things on that page.

[Sardauker Legion]

invernomuto, on 14 March 2017 - 01:26 PM, said:

Hype aside, I am interested in Annihilator but 300 max engine rating make me dubious...
Also the Cougar, 81 kph for a light mech, meh...

With light or XL engine, still slow like a Dwolf - i prefere Kodiaks for speed.
If that engine rating will not be changed, patience: not taken.

[Rekkon]

Arkhangel, on 16 March 2017 - 08:48 AM, said:

@Rekkon: the Annihilator, however, was a Wolf's Dragoons-only Mech until around the Civil War period, so it's highly unlikely the Jags would have had any. Captured Kurita/Operation Bulldog Mechs, yes, but not Annihilators. they did after all lose the one battle they canonically actually had against the Dragoons (as far as i know), on Luthien.

I was not replying to your Annihilator points and should have quoted you more narrowly to indicate such.

That said, the Clans built the Annihilator, and while it has long been out of production, they clearly had some to send with the Wolf's Dragoons, and as far as I am aware there is no indication the Dragoons took them all. It is highly unlikely but not inconceivable that some chassis still existed in Clan space and the last desperate remnants of Smoke Jaguar found them as they scraped the bottom of the moth-balled barrel. Of course MW3 is apocryphal, so we need not concern ourselves with any of its details that do not make sense.

[Sardauker Legion]

50 50, on 14 March 2017 - 06:13 PM, said:

Ok, I'm having trouble finding and confirming this information.

Annihilator = Battlemech.
Uziel = I'm not sure, is it an Omnimech or a Battlemech?
Cougar = Omnimech (And thanks for pointing out the decal that comes with it, made me laugh)
Madcat II = Battlemech. (Pretty sure this one is not an Omni so therefore can't swap pods.)

Can someone confirm?

It's simple:
if in the mech specs, under top speed, uou see max engine rating, it means you can change engine - so no omnimech. The only omni here is the coguar

[The Boneshaman]

The one thing that sucks about this is all the mechs we are missing out on. I know they cant just drop all mechs from 2750-3057 in to the game. It takes them about 3 to 4 months to get 1 cranked out. Some mechs we have now can fill the roles of mechs that they haven't come out with. Some mechs I would love to see are Nightstar, Champion, Pouncer and Incubus_(Vixen). Also where are the X-Pulse_Lasers clan ER Pulse Laser just to name a few things that should be available.

Edited by The Boneshaman, 16 March 2017 - 09:42 AM.

[Sardauker Legion]

Trilobiteer, on 14 March 2017 - 10:48 PM, said:

The cut 30 days of premium time however still equates to a decrease of $12USD (according to the current prices within the online store) from the overall financial value of both the standard and collector's packages. This is not covered within the FAQ and remains a confusing omission given that it was one of the core driving values of the mechpacks and undoubtedly had an impact upon player's purchasing decisions.


Fantastic.

Confusing omission? Neg, planned

[Jamico]

When I decide to buy product, it has to be one of two things. 1) Amazing must-have content, or 2) a bargain. So, these new mech packs, how do they measure up? Point 1 is subjective. For me, only the Anihilator is a must have. A 100 ton assault with lots of ballistics with a C-bill boost. That is exactly what I wanted. I am worried about that engine. Can this thing be made to do at least 48 kph? If not, it will not be as cool as I imagine. The other mechs, as much as others may like them, they just don't rev my heart. Point 2, are they bargains? No, they are not. In fact, this shows a troubling trend of these packs being of less and less value. The best bargains are the mastery packs and those $80 mega bundles. These are the Resistance 1 +2 packs and the Origins IIc pack. These $80 packs and the mastery packs are like buying all that stuff at half price. I call the $80 packs mega bundles because you get a lot more than just mechs. You get 18-36 colors, 4-6 warhorns, 8-12 cockpit items, and premium time. I almost bought one of those $80 mega packs, even though I only wanted one of the mechs in the pack. When looking to see if the pack is a bargain, I do the math and figure out the dollar value of everything in the pack. Then, I subtract anything in the pack I don't actually want or can't use. Then, I discount anything I only "kind of" want. This gives me the true value of a pack to me. I was really hoping for a new $80 mega pack, but it's beginning to look like the best deals are behind us. I hope I'm wrong. I hope PGI puts back the premium time and faction content in the packs. It will greatly affect my future spending habits.

[Sardauker Legion]

Rogue Jedi, on 15 March 2017 - 03:58 AM, said:

so now the standard pack does not come with any premium time, first PGI remove the premium Mechs with the cbill bonus from the base level of the preorder making them an optional extra, then they remove premium time?

If PGI keep reducing the value of the packs I am likely to stop buying them.

When the announcement was made that they were going back to multimech packs I hoped that meant a return to the $20-$30 a tier with a premium Mech and premium time included, which was much better value than these.

they could simply have done $20 per tier with a premium Mech and some premium time, or $30 for a specific single chassis including the premium Mech.

back in the tiered pack days I almost always purchased the full pack but since they switched to the single Mech packs once a month I am rarely buying anything other than the basic pack, and only getting that about half the time, in short the switch has reduced rather than increased what I am paying into MWO.

out of this pack I will probably just buy Uziel for nostalga (it being my favorate Mech in MW4, if the others had included a premium Mech and premium time I would have likely purchased the whole pack, but with no Mech with the cbill boost I am not willing to risk money on 3 Mechs there is a reasionable chance I will not enjoy piloting.

sorry PGI

if this is the new selling politics, Uziel and maybe Mad Cat 2 are my last one.

[Arkhangel]

The Boneshaman, on 16 March 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

The one thing that sucks about this is all the mechs we are missing out on. I know they cant just drop all mechs from 2750-3057 in to the game. It takes them about 3 to 4 months to get 1 cranked out. Some mechs we have now can fill the roles of mechs that they haven't come out with. Some mechs I would love to see are Nightstar, Champion, Pouncer and Incubus_(Vixen). Also where are the X-Pulse_Lasers clan ER Pulse Laser just to name a few things that should be available.

They don't put out Experimental tech. both X-pulses and ER pulse were only ever that, otherwise they'd need to put out and/or balance like twenty other items as well, like the Silver Bullet Gauss, or the Bombast Laser and Blazer.

[Aramuside]

BobTheBully, on 14 March 2017 - 02:07 PM, said:

Nice packs, but why the subtle value loss of standard pack not having any premium time and the collector only having 30 (down from 60)? Also it is active premium time instead of banked time? Was this an oversight or a typo?

Never noticed it was active on top of the reduced amounts unless you get the ultimate pack. That's a big hit in value.

[Sardauker Legion]

Axex, on 16 March 2017 - 08:01 AM, said:

The Annihilator.

​My all time favorite from MW3.

Interesting Mech.
One of the few Mechs the CLANS brought BACK when they returned from exile according to lore.

So it isn't really an IS Mech, is it?

Does that mean we can use CLAN weapons / equipment / paint scheme's on it?

That would be an Annihilator 2C