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[nanashi0110]

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epikt, on 25 August 2025 - 08:28 AM, said:

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<p>Not counting the Kit-Fox and Cougar since they're slow, not even the Mist Lynx because it's not that fast, but you already have the Firemoth, Arctic Cheetah and Wolfhound that can mount ECM.</p>
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Honestly, it's a matter of preference, but I want a clan light with a silhouette like PB or FLEA and over 30t.
All of the mechs listed are good, but they're humanoid and easy to spot, and their mounts are weak for poke.

Edited by nanashi0110, 26 August 2025 - 06:19 AM.

[epikt]

nanashi0110, on 26 August 2025 - 06:06 AM, said:

their mounts are weak for poke

The FireMoth probably has the best poking mounts of all light mechs.
(except maybe the Incubus)

[nanashi0110]

epikt, on 26 August 2025 - 06:11 AM, said:

The FireMoth probably has the best poking mounts of all light mechs.
(except maybe the Incubus)

Sorry, I meant Clanwolf and Cheetah.
It got lost in translation
They're not bad, but I don't like them...

[epikt]

nanashi0110, on 26 August 2025 - 06:06 AM, said:

I want a clan light with a silhouette like PB or FLEA and over 30t

Does such a mech exist though?
I just had a quick look on Sarna, and the clan lights fitting that silhouette are on the lighter side, like the Locust-IIC or the Fire-Falcon (both 25 tons).

[Sinistrum]

This is going to sound really silly perhaps, but as a clan fan boy I'd love to see a totem mech pack with maybe a new mech or two and new skins for the Clans.

...I'd be the first in line to buy it. I'd even pay extra if someone threw in the Howler or the Mandrill.

Oh, and please update the Commando IIC/Urbanmech IIC to use all the clan skins out there, that would be really awesome.

[BlueDevilspawn]

Are you aware of the Clan Galaxies pack? It They came out a few months ago. That said, IS tech base swaps are not painted for them and I don’t know if the devs can do it with the limited time they have.

As for brand new chassis, they don’t get “thrown in”, they’re made and released as mech packs.

Sinistrum, on 20 September 2025 - 08:49 AM, said:

This is going to sound really silly perhaps, but as a clan fan boy I'd love to see a totem mech pack with maybe a new mech or two and new skins for the Clans.

...I'd be the first in line to buy it. I'd even pay extra if someone threw in the Howler or the Mandrill.

Oh, and please update the Commando IIC/Urbanmech IIC to use all the clan skins out there, that would be really awesome.

[Duke Falcon]

I just damn want a Shrike assault...
Another beauty we would never see in MWO just like the Phoenix hawk IIc...

*sob*

[Battlemaster56]

It would be nice to get a set of the Falcons' partial wing mechs but I bet money the mech design just say no and they bring nothing interesting to the game.

[VeeOt Dragon]

i just want something that isn't another damn clan mech

[1453 R]

VeeOt Dragon, on 22 September 2025 - 12:43 PM, said:

i just want something that isn't another damn clan mech

For largely the whole of MW5's run we had pretty much nothing but IS 'Mechs. The only toys we got at all were just a single variant of one new chassis. Let the Clan folks have their turn.

[Battlemaster56]

Mad Cat III and Rakasha more Mad Cats the merrier.

[Will9761]

VeeOt Dragon, on 22 September 2025 - 12:43 PM, said:

i just want something that isn't another damn clan mech

I personally wouldn't mind having more IS Omnis. I'd love to see these:
Blackjack Omni - The Prime version has the best ballistic hardpoints, while the OD variant has the best laser hardpoints. The fact that the OD variant also has a laser hardpoint in the CT and all variants are jumpers makes it a versatile Omni, even moreso than the Gauntlet, I would say.
Firestarter Omni - All variants are Jumpers across the board. The OD variant has an ECM hardpoint, the OH has the best hardpoints and OF has a head-mounted laser hardpoint. It could serve as the IS answer to the Shadow Cat despite lacking MASC.
Avatar - Even if it's a recycled Mad Dog chassis (which makes sense since the Avatar was made from salvaged Mad Dog parts), it's got ECM and is a Jumper. So essentially, you've got an IS ECM, Jumping Mad Dog.
Perseus (a.k.a. the Omni Orion).

Edited to add some more details to these choices.

Edited by Will9761, 24 September 2025 - 03:31 PM.

[Battlemaster56]

Will9761, on 24 September 2025 - 02:50 PM, said:

I personally wouldn't mind having more IS Omnis. I'd love to see these:
Blackjack Omni
Firestarter Omni
Avatar, even if it's a recycled Mad Dog chassis.

Persus be another option since you can just use the Orion model and work from there, just have to move the weapons around to be in the st.

[Will9761]

1453 R, on 22 September 2025 - 02:36 PM, said:

For largely the whole of MW5's run we had pretty much nothing but IS 'Mechs. The only toys we got at all were just a single variant of one new chassis. Let the Clan folks have their turn.

I don't know about that. While there are good Clan Mechs, both BattleMechs and OmniMechs that could fit in fine for both MW5: Clans and MWO, the options are scarce given the preferences that PGI are looking for. Also these reasons are why we can't get good clan mechs in both games.

• Other Mechs will play similar or inferior to other ones. For example: a Griffin IIC = an Arctic Wolf or a Locust IIC < Piranha
  
• Mech variants or chassis will sidestep other viable chassis. Like a Nova PRIME over a Crimson Langur E.
  
• PGI is looking for mechs that are unique and can't do anything like other clan mechs. Like a Kingfisher with a Clan STD Engine for example.

It's hard to find good clan mechs these days...

As much as I agree and love seeing a large influx of clan mechs coming to this game, it's hard to, "let the Clan folks have their turn" as you say. Given PGI's preferences in what they are trying to find with adding unique Clan Mechs.

Edited by Will9761, 03 October 2025 - 12:14 PM.

[nanashi0110]

I'd love to see new MECHs for the L, M, and H classes in Clan MECH.

I keep thinking while playing that compared to Inner Sphere, there are way too few MECHs that let you do interesting things with Quirks.

[Hawk819]

Night Gyr E would be nice variant-wise. Hel II (Loki II) as well and of course, the Phoenix Hawk IIC for the Clans. IS: Thunder Hawk TDK-7X. Would make me very happy! Maybe, they'll allow us to make a Hero Variant. If so, then I have the right set up for the T-Hawk.

[Will9761]

These are some good Clan Mechs I could see being in MWO for these reasons.

Light
Horned Owl (Peregrine) - Despite it being in Mechwarrior 2: GBL, the mech itself looks like it would serve as a "Spider IIC" in performance. It has 3 good variants for it: Horned Owl 2 is a "Splat Owl", the Horned Owl 3 serves as a "Dakka Owl" and the 7 or "Shimafukuro" could be a good harasser Legendary or Hero Mech due to the Partial Wings and if you replace the tag on it with a laser. I also have to throw this out there, but given how the Horned Owl has a Zaku-like appearance, it would be funny to give it shoulder pads based on a Zaku or GOUF as a reference to Ramba Ral with a similar paint scheme as a reference to Gundam.

Fire Falcon - The Fire Falcon was made by Clan Jade Falcon in 3052. Given the fact that it is a Jade Falcon design, this OmniMech has the potential of being in a MW5: Clans DLC for that Clan. The Prime, C, F and H are good variants, while the T variant can be used for the Supercharger to build other hardpoints on it. This mech is superior to the Locust IIC and not because its an OmniMech, but it has a heavier payload despite both being 25 tonners. To compare: The LCT IIC-6 has 8 Ballistic hardpoints, while the Fire Falcon - F has 10 Ballistic Hardpoints. Then, when you really think about it though...the Fire Falcon is essentially an Omni-version of the Locust IIC in both appearance and gameplay. It also fills in the 25 ton slot for Clan Mechs.

Medium
Grendel (Mongrel) - This is a good Medium Omni. The variants have enough hardpoints and weapons to stay versatile, even with its Omnipods. It is superior to the Ice Ferret given the fact that it has both good speed and jumpjets.

Wolverine IIC/Conjurer (Hellhound)
The Conjurer has 5 good variants PGI could work with. They most of them are jumpers across the board. 1 is your regular fighter, 2 is a fast harasser and 4 is an absolute beast. If PGI wanted to, they could the Conjurer 6 (cannoned as the Mechwarrior 4 Hellhound) as a different model for an addon and the 7 could follow suit. You also have Hero or Legendary ideas with the Hellcat Prototype and the mix-tech Conjurer 8 which has both MASC and JumpJets with an IS RAC/5, this could act as a superior version of the Noble Legendary Mech.

Heavy
Black Python (Viper) - It is a solid mech. The Black Python is a jump-capable Timber Wolf but in BattleMech form. The Black Python 2 has an ECM hardpoint, the 4 variant is all-energy and the 5 could act as a "mini-Nightstar", but faster. Given the fact that Brett Andrews piloted this mech, you could make another Hero Mech based after him.

Assault
Phoenix Hawk IIC - Even though BT lore says that this Mech is like a Clan Charger, it's actually more like a Clan Banshee in gameplay due to the Shield Arms. The PHX IIC - Standard, 2 and 3 have unique torso weapon hardpoints similar to the Rifleman IIC's arms. But unlike the Rifleman, it is a fast Assault Mech for its size, going to 86/kph. It has Jump Jets across all variants. Also, the fact that it was made by Clan Steel Viper gives it potential to be in a MW5: Clans DLC for that clan.

Edited by Will9761, 28 September 2025 - 02:20 PM.

[Will9761]

If we had the 50 ton Wolverine IIC Conjurer (Hellhound) for MWO, these are the potential variants that I could see being in this game (and MW5). However, given the fact that the Shadow Hawk IIC is now in the game, I don't know if it will be possible to add the Conjurer now. But anyway here are the potential good variants for the mech.

Conjurer 1 (Standard)
HD - N/A
CT - 2x JumpJets
LT - 2x Streak SRM-2s, 2x JumpJets
RT - 2x ER medium lasers, 2x JumpJets
LA - N/A
RA - Large Pulse Laser
300 STD Engine = 96/kph

Conjurer 2
HD - N/A
CT - JumpJet
LT - 3x JumpJets
RT - 3x JumpJets
LA - 2x Medium Pulse Lasers
RA - ATM 9
350 XL Engine = 115/kph

Conjurer 4
HD - N/A
CT - 2x JumpJets
LT - 2x Light Machine Guns, 2x JumpJets
RT - 2x Streak SRM 6s, 2x JumpJets
LA - 2x Heavy Medium Lasers
RA - 2x Heavy Medium Lasers, Medium Pulse Laser
300 XL = 96/kph

Conjurer 6 (what would eventually start the Hellcat/Hellhound II [a.k.a. the MW4 Hellhound]) - It would be cool if PGI made a separate model based on the Hellhound II, but beggars can't be choosers.
HD - N/A
CT - N/A
LT - LRM 10
RT - ER PPC, ER Medium Laser
LA - 2x ER Medium Lasers
RA - ER medium Lasers
300 STD Engine = 96/kph

Conjurer 7
HD - N/A
CT - 2x JumpJets
LT - 2x LRM 5s, 2x JumpJets
RT - 2x ER Medium Lasers, 2x JumpJets
LA - N/A
RA - Large Pulse Laser
300 STD Engine = 96/kph

Hero/Legendary Mech Ideas:
Hellcat Proto
HD - N/A
CT - N/A
LT - SRM 6
RT - ER Large Laser
LA - ER Large Laser
RA - LB-10X AC
250 XL Engine = 115/kph

Conjurer 8
HD - N/A
CT - JumpJet, MASC
LT - Streak SRM 6, 2x JumpJets
RT - 2x Medium Pulse Lasers, 2x JumpJets
LA - N/A
RA - IS RAC/5
IS 250 XL Engine = 86.4/kph

So looking at the Conjurer (Hellhound), you got 5 good variants to work off of and two good ideas for hero or legendary mechs. But like I said before, given the fact we have the Shadow Hawk IIC, I don't know if that's possible.

Edit - I forgot to add MASC when I was talking about the Conjurer 8. Silly me.

Edited by Will9761, 28 September 2025 - 12:03 PM.

[BlueDevilspawn]

Will9761, on 25 September 2025 - 05:10 PM, said:

These are some good Clan Mechs I could see being in MWO for these reasons.

Light
Horned Owl (Peregrine) - Despite it being in Mechwarrior 2: GBL, the mech itself looks like it would serve as a "Spider IIC" in performance. It has 3 good variants for it: Horned Owl 2 is a "Splat Owl", the Horned Owl 3 serves as a "Dakka Owl" and the 7 or "Shimafukuro" could be a good harasser Legendary or Hero Mech due to the Partial Wings and if you replace the tag on it with a laser. I also have to throw this out there, but given how the Horned Owl has a Zaku-like appearance, it would be funny to give it shoulder pads based on a Zaku or GOUF as a reference to Ramba Ral with a similar paint scheme as a reference to Gundam.

Medium
Grendel (Mongrel) - This is a good Medium Omni. The variants have enough hardpoints and weapons to stay versatile, even with its Omnipods. It is superior to the Ice Ferret given the fact that it has both good speed and jumpjets.

Heavy
Black Python (Viper) - It is a solid mech. The Black Python is a jump-capable Timber Wolf but in BattleMech form. The Black Python 2 has an ECM hardpoint, the 4 variant is all-energy and the 5 could act as a "mini-Nightstar", but faster. Given the fact that Brett Andrews piloted this mech, you could make another Hero Mech based after him.

Assault
Phoenix Hawk IIC - Even though BT lore says that this Mech is like a Clan Charger, it's actually more like a Clan Banshee in gameplay due to the Shield Arms. The PHX IIC - Standard, 2 and 3 have unique torso weapon hardpoints similar to the Rifleman IIC's arms. But unlike the Rifleman, it is a fast Assault Mech for its size, going to 86/kph. It has Jump Jets across all variants. Also, the fact that it was made by Clan Steel Viper gives it potential to be in a MW5: Clans DLC for that clan.

NGL, this thread is certainly one of the threads of all time. That said (and I'm not leaking anything), this post is one of the more rational, realistic, and thought through ones I've read given PGI's operating considerations and not someone going "reeee I want my Celestials / Mackie / Stinger / Wasp."

[KursedVixen]

nanashi0110, on 26 August 2025 - 06:06 AM, said:

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Honestly, it's a matter of preference, but I want a clan light with a silhouette like PB or FLEA and over 30t.
All of the mechs listed are good, but they're humanoid and easy to spot, and their mounts are weak for poke.

Locust IIC