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Next Meck Pack Poll Discussion! Updated Choices And Dev Comments! Escalation Mechs Removed!


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#1041 Jay Leon Hart

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 09:04 AM

View PostBombast, on 14 August 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

Wouldn't the Highlander just be a crappy Urbanmech? Sure, it technically could mount a bigger engine, but it's already hard to make a 30 ballistic mech with a XL180, would be impossible with a bigger engine.

Since the Arctic Wolf OmniMech/BattleMech pack, I've been wondering if they would release it as both the Hollander (35 tons) and Hollander II (45 tons). Not sure if the Hollander III is also 45 tons.

Under gunned? Sure!
Exploding torsos? Sure!
Slower than an Urbie? Sure!
Easy to isolate cannon torso? Sure!
Don't care, want it Posted Image

View PostKarl Streiger, on 14 August 2017 - 08:54 AM, said:

Depends on the artist the mounts don't need to be high above the cockpit they could also be placed slightly above cockpit height (upprr mounts on KDK - it would not be as worse as the Blood Asp

One can hope, as the Blood Asp is another 'mech I really want to see.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 09:08 AM

View PostJay Leon Hart, on 14 August 2017 - 09:04 AM, said:

Not sure if the Hollander III is also 45 tons.


35 tons, I believe.

Also, weird. Skunkworks doesn't have sheets for the Hollander III.

#1043 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 09:33 AM

View PostchucklesMuch, on 14 August 2017 - 12:11 AM, said:

Mmm :/

It's very unfortunate as many of the IS mechs don't seem fit for purpose. And yet 'we' keep voting for more... and then 'we' decry how bad a mech is (especially compared with xyz clan mech)... and then 'we' vote for more of the same...

Speaking of mech boobs, I'm sure I saw a particularly flat chested old thanatos pic recently. The current artwork looks mint, but the other, much uglier artwork looked far more practical.

Oh well shrugs...


Honestly the Thanatos will have some decent variants, its better than many of the other options.

What is getting me is that some players (especially CLAN loyalists) are saying things like "OMG the Thanatos is a game changer, OMGWTFBBQ ECM + JJs, its gonna be so good!" which is far from the truth. It will probably be an above average IS heavy, but its not going to touch the top tier IS heavies let alone the Clan ones, unless there are some quirks to help it out. But.. it has ECM AND JJs so quirks are going to be used sparingly, I'm sure.

#1044 Karl Streiger

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:01 AM

View PostOldbob10025, on 14 August 2017 - 08:37 AM, said:

Anyone know how to refund your mech purchases with PGI? I know people have done it but I have no idea how.

Thanks


View PostBombast, on 14 August 2017 - 09:08 AM, said:


35 tons, I believe.

Also, weird. Skunkworks doesn't have sheets for the Hollander III.


SSW does not have 3145 Mechs most you cam rebuild. (Most RISC equipment is available)
I can provide some if necessary
Pitty saw does not have all options ready otherwise

BTT H3 is one armed super charged UAC10 35t Mech

Edited by Karl Streiger, 14 August 2017 - 10:02 AM.


#1045 Andi Nagasia

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:05 AM

Gas Vanquisher? Add Please? Posted Image

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:08 AM

View PostAndi Nagasia, on 14 August 2017 - 10:05 AM, said:

Gas Vanquisher? Add Please? Posted Image


I'll have to remove another assault that is already there... I'll take it under advisement, I can take out one of the early ones that is really unpopular that might be the best way.

Edit: NVM, I just realized since I removed the Nightstar, we only had 19 choices there. Its added.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 14 August 2017 - 10:11 AM.


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:12 AM

View PostAndi Nagasia, on 14 August 2017 - 10:05 AM, said:



It's like a fat Catapult CPLT-K2.

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#1048 Jay Leon Hart

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:16 AM

View PostJay Leon Hart, on 03 June 2017 - 01:27 AM, said:

OK, probably a little late, but since the Nova Cat has been announced I want another Clan Heavy to vote for...

I've narrowed it down to 2.

The 60 ton Glass Spider
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The 60 ton Hellfire
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Now, which one to put in my sig...

View PostRequiemking, on 21 June 2017 - 08:38 PM, said:

Well, one 60 tonner I haven't seen many people talking about is the Predator. 60 tonner, 2B 4E, made by a clan who hasn't contributed any mechs to MWO yet(Fire Mandrill), even has high mounts for the ballistics. The only issues I see with it are a lack of variants(Thats never stopped PGI before) and the extremely low mounted cockpit(which could be moved up).

So Gas, while you're adding more 'mechs (even though they likely won't get enough votes to matter at this point), how about the Glass Spider, Hellfire and Predator to flesh out the Clan Heavy lineup?

Thank you please! Posted Image

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:16 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 14 August 2017 - 10:08 AM, said:


I'll have to remove another assault that is already there... I'll take it under advisement, I can take out one of the early ones that is really unpopular that might be the best way.

Edit: NVM, I just realized since I removed the Nightstar, we only had 19 choices there. Its added.

thank you,

View PostBombast, on 14 August 2017 - 10:12 AM, said:


It's like a fat Catapult CPLT-K2.

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yup, 100Ton CAT-K2, like a KGC but with high Arm Mounts,

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:18 AM

View PostJay Leon Hart, on 14 August 2017 - 10:16 AM, said:

So Gas, while you're adding more 'mechs (even though they likely won't get enough votes to matter at this point), how about the Glass Spider, Hellfire and Predator to flesh out the Clan Heavy lineup?

Thank you please! Posted Image


Done.

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:19 AM

Gas also noticed you have the Enfield listed twice on in the IS-Med Area,

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:23 AM

View PostAndi Nagasia, on 14 August 2017 - 10:16 AM, said:

yup, 100Ton CAT-K2, like a KGC but with high Arm Mounts,


I hereby coin the nickname 'Fatapult' for the Vanquisher. And it was totally my idea first and that nickname has never been used before.

Original idea. I swear.

#1053 Gas Guzzler

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Posted 14 August 2017 - 10:30 AM

View PostAndi Nagasia, on 14 August 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

Gas also noticed you have the Enfield listed twice on in the IS-Med Area,


Thanks. SOMEONE asked for the Enfield even though it was already there and I didn't check.

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 07:00 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 14 August 2017 - 10:30 AM, said:


Thanks. SOMEONE asked for the Enfield even though it was already there and I didn't check.


Yeah, I am sorry it was me. I mistook the name for different mech.

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Posted 15 August 2017 - 07:37 AM

View PostThe Lighthouse, on 15 August 2017 - 07:00 AM, said:


Yeah, I am sorry it was me. I mistook the name for different mech.


Haha np I was just teasing.

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 09:44 AM

So now that we see we are getting:

IS Medium
Clan Light
Clan Medium

I predict:

Hellspawn/Men Shen/Chimera (Hellspawn probably most likely)
Piranha
Black Lanner

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 10:00 AM

View PostJay Leon Hart, on 03 August 2017 - 12:38 PM, said:

I can't see another Clan Assault for a while (even if I *do* want the Blood Asp), since 3/6 of the last Clan 'mechs were Assaults - MAD-IIC, SNV, MCII, COU, ACW, NCT.

So if we *did* get the Piranha, I'd imagine a Clan Medium next - Pouncer or Black Lanner, going off the polls.

Well, I was kinda right Posted Image

Piranha seems like a no-brainer at this point for the next Clan Light.

For Clan Medium, I still stand by either the Black Lanner (meh) or the Pouncer (YAY!)

As for IS Medium? While the Men Shen would be amazing, IS Omnis are supposed to be a no-go until at least next year, right? Much as I want my Starslayer, another "MW4 'mech" seems likely, after the Thanatos.

Hellspawn offers ECM and JJs with various flavours of energy and missiles.

Chimera offers JJS but no ECM with all the weapon flavours.

Personally, I want the Chimera, though the Hellpsawn adds more to the 45 ton range as a potential jumping ECM splat brawler. That and the burns form the Uziel are still sore, so I'll take functional and ugly over pretty but redundant this time.

Piranha
Black Lanner / Pouncer
Hellspawn

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 10:46 AM

View PostJay Leon Hart, on 22 August 2017 - 10:00 AM, said:

Piranha
Black Lanner / Pouncer
Hellspawn


Judging by the order on the roadmap, I'm expecting the IS medium first then the Piranha then the Clan medium.

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 10:50 AM

View PostJay Leon Hart, on 22 August 2017 - 10:00 AM, said:

As for IS Medium? While the Men Shen would be amazing, IS Omnis are supposed to be a no-go until at least next year, right?


Well think about it: Thanatos will be released in November, and - unless the roadmap list is in chronological order - it is probably followed by a Clan Mech in December. And every Mech after that is next year, which makes IS Omnis possible. I would prefer the Men Shen for novelty and performance, but I guess PGI goes for yet another MW:4-unit even if it is less novel, less powerful and less important in the lore...

...it's called the Uziel-principle.

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 11:21 AM

View PostGas Guzzler, on 22 August 2017 - 10:46 AM, said:

Judging by the order on the roadmap, I'm expecting the IS medium first then the Piranha then the Clan medium.

Yeah, I just ordered them C-L/C-M/IS-M because my mind thinks it looks neater Posted Image

View PostFLG 01, on 22 August 2017 - 10:50 AM, said:

Well think about it: Thanatos will be released in November, and - unless the roadmap list is in chronological order - it is probably followed by a Clan Mech in December. And every Mech after that is next year, which makes IS Omnis possible.

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