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[nitra]

"Macro AC5s and AC2's"

I know right ?? being hit by meaningful return fire really changes the dynamics of the game.

The IS should only be allowed a pew pew and maybe a boom every now and then. Dakka should be Clan exclusive !!

every time a KGC mixed ac5/2 dakka boat macros, a baby kitfox cries.

those horror jager mechs and their quad acs, the unholy trip ac2 vindicator, the hetahens who mix and macro acs on any IS mech.

They ALL NEED PERMA BANNED because they have undermined Clans fire power superiority and force them to use (forgive me for using this word) Tactics to survive on the field. Blasphemy I know.

When one pilots clan you are supposed to have a free pass to roll over a lance of IS mechs and those blasted macro acs denies this fundamental right.

it has now come time to do what needs to be done .

REMOVE IS MECHS FROM THE GAME they are all over powered game breaking and allow players to wield to much fire power on the field.

[Wintersdark]

Mystere, on 23 March 2017 - 04:57 PM, said:

It can be argued that nerfs do more harm on the trash-tier stuff than on the metawhoring stuff the nerfs were intended to deal with. With this in mind I can understand why people are unhappy.

The problem may be that people THINK a change is designed to "deal with metawhoring", but those changes have nothing whatsoever to do with the current meta.


That designer (Chris?) on the podcast said their/his goal was improving the critical hit system. The crit related changes are moves in that direction, not ones related to any current or past meta. After all, they made sweeping changes to the whole system, not just PPC/Gauss.

[Ebins]

You're going to get (and have gotten) a lot of hate for writing this post man, but +1 thumbs up, I totally agree. PGI won't see another cent from me. Hell, I don't even have any desire to play any more.

[Lupis Volk]

If your having issues with the easy mode that is Clan mechs then maybe the issue is the mechwarrior and not the mech.

[Khobai]

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Yes, ignoring the fact that the Clans already have more toys

but theyre old toys, theyre boring. clans need new toys not boring old ones.

youre basically saying "Clans have more old toys so they shouldnt get any new toys even though their old toys are boring"

the whole point is to keep the game fun and interesting for both IS and clans. both factions need new stuff.

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Rational people......

umm rational people get angry when they get shafted

thats the normal human response to having something taken away from you after youve had it for a long time.

theres something wrong with people that just take it up the @ss without questioning it. thats irrational behavior.

Edited by Khobai, 24 March 2017 - 12:03 AM.

[Athom83]

Khobai, on 23 March 2017 - 11:53 PM, said:

but theyre old toys, theyre boring. clans need new toys not boring old ones.
youre basically saying "Clans have more old toys so they shouldnt get any new toys even though their old toys are boring"

You sound like a rich kid who usually gets everything that is finally hearing the word "no" for the first time.

Khobai, on 23 March 2017 - 11:53 PM, said:

the whole point is to keep the game fun and interesting for both IS and clans. both factions need new stuff.

1) You are getting new stuff
2) The IS hasn't got "new stuff" in a looooooong time.
3) Getting that stuff now means you cant get any more later.

Khobai, on 23 March 2017 - 11:53 PM, said:

umm rational people get angry when they get shafted
thats the normal human response to having something taken away from you after youve had it for a long time.

But rational people don't throw fits when they don't get what they want.

Khobai, on 23 March 2017 - 11:53 PM, said:

theres something wrong with people that just take it up the @ss without questioning it. thats irrational behavior.

But some people are just into that sort of thing.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Khobai, on 23 March 2017 - 11:53 PM, said:

youre basically saying "Clans have more old toys so they shouldnt get any new toys even though their old toys are boring"

Most of the IS new toys are boring because they are inferior version of the Clans old "boring" toys. Both sides are getting very little in the way of truly unique and new weapons.

Khobai, on 23 March 2017 - 11:53 PM, said:

the whole point is to keep the game fun and interesting for both IS and clans. both factions need new stuff.

Good thing both factions are getting a few huh?

Khobai, on 23 March 2017 - 11:53 PM, said:

umm rational people get angry when they get shafted

Rational people don't see this as getting shafted, but way to miss the point.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 24 March 2017 - 06:55 AM.

[Khobai]

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Most of the IS new toys are boring

how do you know, have you use them?

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Good thing both factions are getting a few huh?

except clans are getting less

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Rational people don't see this as getting shafted, but way to miss the point.

rational clan players do see it as getting shafted

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Khobai, on 24 March 2017 - 10:53 AM, said:

how do you know, have you use them?

I've used the Clan versions of them.
IS ERs
IS UACs
IS LBX
IS SSRMs
Both sides get LMG/HMGs

Those are all weapons the Clans have had complete sets since their introduction.

The IS get these new pieces of tech: Lt/Hvy Gauss, RACs, Lt/Hvy/Snub PPCs, MRMs.
Clans gets Micro Lasers, Hvy Lasers, and ATMs (which are more practically 3 weapons in one package).

The IS looks like it is getting a few more weapons (11 in total) compared to the Clans (8 in total) but that isn't much more and that isn't counting the versatile ATMs.

Khobai, on 24 March 2017 - 10:53 AM, said:

except clans are getting less

rational clan players do see it as getting shafted

They started with more, which is why rational people don't see this as getting shafted, because really the IS has been shafted for the longest time. If you see it as getting shafted, you simply aren't rational. We all know you aren't rational to begin with.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 24 March 2017 - 11:10 AM.

[NRP]

This recurring theme that Clan mech are "easy mode" is pretty much BS. Crawl your way out of Tier 3 and face better players and you'll see nothing is "easy mode".

[Ghogiel]

Oberost, on 23 March 2017 - 06:06 AM, said:

AphexTwin11, on 23 March 2017 - 06:25 AM, said:

Edited by Ghogiel, 24 March 2017 - 11:44 AM.

[Anjian]

I have yet to ace a QP game with my Clan mechs this month, but I already have three aced games (5 kills and above) with IS mechs.

IS AC ballistics still rules.

[Clanner Scum]

I'm personally a fan of buffing weak stuff instead of nerfing strong stuff. Powercreep yadda yadda...whatever. Atleast people won't whine about nerfs if you just buff things that are under performing.

[Mcgral18]

Clanner Scum, on 24 March 2017 - 05:47 PM, said:

I'm personally a fan of buffing weak stuff instead of nerfing strong stuff. Powercreep yadda yadda...whatever. Atleast people won't whine about nerfs if you just buff things that are under performing.

That's when you complain about buffs
See, KDK3 introduction, with that massive power creep

[Clanner Scum]

Mcgral18, on 24 March 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

That's when you complain about buffs
See, KDK3 introduction, with that massive power creep

IMO if everything is over powered then the game is balanced.

[Wildstreak]

If Clan Mechs suck so much, why does the new Comp Scene Sale have 10 Clan and only 6 IS?

[Felicitatem Parco]

This whole thread OP is this:

All Clan Mechs suck except MarauderIIC, Kodiak. and Night Gyr. All matches are dominated by Grasshoppers, BlackKnights, Warhammers.

So, there are 3 dominant Clan Mechs, and only 4 IS Mechs dominate. Such a VAST disparity...

Edited by Prosperity Park, 24 March 2017 - 07:33 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

Khobai, on 23 March 2017 - 11:53 PM, said:

but theyre old toys, theyre boring. clans need new toys not boring old ones.

youre basically saying "Clans have more old toys so they shouldnt get any new toys even though their old toys are boring"

the whole point is to keep the game fun and interesting for both IS and clans. both factions need new stuff.

It's been five goddamn years since the IS got anything new, only three since the Clans were released.

Shut up, and be happy that PGI is adding anything more besides just the bare minimum of equalizers.

[Lightfoot]

What will be most amusing is when the 3061 Tech comes out and Inner Sphere suddenly has better weapons than Clan Tech!

Yes, Heavy and Light Gauss, full SSRMs, full ER Lasers, RACs!, Stealth Armor, Light Engines, Light, Heavy, Snub-Nose PPCs, and all the rest will give Inner Sphere so much more Damage than Clan Tech.

Clan 3061 tech, well, Heavy Lasers are too hot for DHS 1.4, you would need 30 plus DHS for 2x Heavy Large Lasers at which point they are a deficit to DPS. So ATMs would need to have godly attributes to make up for all the weapon advances the Inner Sphere will be handed. And you know how much PGI likes to support guided missiles in MWO!

I would encourage PGI to look a few months down the road before they strangle their gameplay too much.

[Athom83]

Khobai, on 24 March 2017 - 10:53 AM, said:

how do you know, have you use them?

They're hand-me-downs from the clans, but worse. If you already find them boring why wouldn't we?

Khobai, on 24 March 2017 - 10:53 AM, said:

except clans are getting less

But what the clans are getting is even better than what the IS is getting.

Khobai, on 24 March 2017 - 10:53 AM, said:

ration irrational clan players do see it as getting shafted

FIFY