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[Napoleon_Blownapart]

there's boiled potatoes, french fried potatoes, mashed potatoes, baked potatoes....

[Bud Crue]

Mcgral18, on 02 April 2017 - 09:54 PM, said:

But...Potato is already used as a less offensive means to express frustration


Would you prefer Terribad be brought back into full use?

Yes.

Lots of people have an occasional moment of Potato. I have seen some of the best players in the game do something seemingly stupid on occasion and pay the price for it (I have screen shots of many instances). While this makes me feel better about my performance, alas the reality is that some of us really are bad at this game. They make bad decisions in the mech lab and in game. They refuse to acknowledge the meta. They run builds based on how a mech looks or how a weapon sounds. They are not potatoes; they (we) are terribads.

[C E Dwyer]

It's getting old

When people are calling their team potatoes during the count down, I can assume that person lacks an original thought, like a baby that has learned a new word, and is the thing he's calling out. From an emotional point of view, he's just a herd animal, or has a root crop mentality.

It's not the implied insult I find annoying, but the person saying it , is saying it, just because it's trending, and is incapable of an original idea of their own.

Edited by Cathy, 03 April 2017 - 07:33 AM.

[Bud Crue]

Cathy, on 03 April 2017 - 07:32 AM, said:

It's getting old

When people are calling their team potatoes during the count down, I can assume that person lacks an original thought, like a baby that has learned a new word, and is the thing he's calling out. From an emotional point of view, he's just a herd animal, or has a root crop mentality.

It's not the implied insult I find annoying, but the person saying it , is saying it, just because it's trending, and is incapable of an original idea of their own.

Wait a second...if they are name calling in the countdown screen I thought it was within the coc to leg em once the match started? No? Or is a potato turning one of his/her "betters" into a potato to meta?

[Almond Brown]

Mcgral18, on 02 April 2017 - 09:54 PM, said:

But...Potato is already used as a less offensive means to express frustration

Would you prefer Terribad be brought back into full use?

How about neither and instead try passing on some positive re-enforcement to those who are likely New to MWO, and or at least trying. When those "Potatoes", or "TerriBads", as you call them, have ALL been chased off the Servers, who are the "Tryhards", "Tier e-peen snobs", and "Leet" players going single out for beat down and denigration after that?

Sad times these... just sad.

[Wildstreak]

JC Daxion, on 02 April 2017 - 06:19 PM, said:

But perhaps a new slogan?

OK, ok.
From now on, everyone uses Rutabaga.

[ANOM O MECH]

Why?

Well builds have never been worse. Many games are now won or lost in the mech lab. Lrm Atlas' used to actually be pretty rare, now the brawler version that is actually effective, is harder to find.

Tactics. How many times does it take to lose on Grim Plexes Domination because the side that spawns behind the buildings hides there? It's almost an insta loss at this point. This map is not that imbalanced like Alpine Domination is and either pushing the Echo or Golf line works incredibly well. Then there's Frozen City, spawn on the Charlie line? Sure now lets nascar and switch sides!!! It has become ingrained despite how incredibly stupid doing this is. Pushing into Echo 6 and 7 building provides a lot of cover for peaking and the other team has to cross some open space to close... Nope, vroom, vroom to Delta 5 behind that rock and up the hill to the other side!!!

Wish there was some way to get people to read more of the guides and learn about tactics or a way to review things after a match. The reality though is that quick play is a lost cause, despite the majority of the player base making it their home. So we are always going to have a game with a high learning curve and a great deal of the population huddled at the bottom of the curve, disinterested in moving up it. I doubt even fixing PSR would help.

[Wil McCullough]

Almond Brown, on 03 April 2017 - 07:54 AM, said:

How about neither and instead try passing on some positive re-enforcement to those who are likely New to MWO, and or at least trying. When those "Potatoes", or "TerriBads", as you call them, have ALL been chased off the Servers, who are the "Tryhards", "Tier e-peen snobs", and "Leet" players going single out for beat down and denigration after that?

Sad times these... just sad.

Whatever makes you think we don't try? To those who've dropped with me ingame, they know that i dropcall and do all thise goodness to help the team win even if i have to sacrifice myself if its for a good cause.

The problem is that most potatoes have half functional eyes and no ears. I can't count the number of times i've repeatedly tell potatoes that the enemy is pushing in force at g8 and for the guys at f4 to move towards g7 to reinforce for example.

Potatoes don't listen. Because potatoes can't even shoot and move at the same time, much less shoot, move and listen.

Last two nights ago i had 6 friendly mechs that stayed in the swamp at f5 on bog. Despite repeated instructions from myself, both verbal and typed, that staying there makes them sitting ducks, and to take the stairs up at e6 asap.

We got rolled because the 6 of them (half of which were assaults, what's new?) Got plastered by overwatching op for while they cowered.

Another match, i potatoed myself. I brought a commando and took the wrong srm ammo. I spent the whole game depending on my backup weapons of 2xmls.

I did 230 damage. All 4 assaults in charlie lance didnt break 120 dmg. 2 other teammates didnt break 100. If those arent potatoes, what are they? A commando with 2 medium lasers and no modules did better than 4 80+ ton mechs.

My mantra is this: don't act like a potato, don't get called a potato.

It's one thing to be a new player, it's another to be utterly incapable of listening to advice and instructions. That's not new. That's stupid. And you can't cure stupid.

Calling such players potatoes is already being extremely generous.

[Gas Guzzler]

Almond Brown, on 03 April 2017 - 07:54 AM, said:

How about neither and instead try passing on some positive re-enforcement to those who are likely New to MWO, and or at least trying. When those "Potatoes", or "TerriBads", as you call them, have ALL been chased off the Servers, who are the "Tryhards", "Tier e-peen snobs", and "Leet" players going single out for beat down and denigration after that?

Sad times these... just sad.

Its not new players that are the problem. Its the old timers that cling to bad strategies and doing dumb **** that are the issue, and they have no excuse, other than being stubborn and close-minded.

[R Valentine]

Wil McCullough, on 03 April 2017 - 08:36 AM, said:

Whatever makes you think we don't try? To those who've dropped with me ingame, they know that i dropcall and do all thise goodness to help the team win even if i have to sacrifice myself if its for a good cause.

The problem is that most potatoes have half functional eyes and no ears. I can't count the number of times i've repeatedly tell potatoes that the enemy is pushing in force at g8 and for the guys at f4 to move towards g7 to reinforce for example.

Potatoes don't listen. Because potatoes can't even shoot and move at the same time, much less shoot, move and listen.

Last two nights ago i had 6 friendly mechs that stayed in the swamp at f5 on bog. Despite repeated instructions from myself, both verbal and typed, that staying there makes them sitting ducks, and to take the stairs up at e6 asap.

We got rolled because the 6 of them (half of which were assaults, what's new?) Got plastered by overwatching op for while they cowered.

Another match, i potatoed myself. I brought a commando and took the wrong srm ammo. I spent the whole game depending on my backup weapons of 2xmls.

I did 230 damage. All 4 assaults in charlie lance didnt break 120 dmg. 2 other teammates didnt break 100. If those arent potatoes, what are they? A commando with 2 medium lasers and no modules did better than 4 80+ ton mechs.

My mantra is this: don't act like a potato, don't get called a potato.

It's one thing to be a new player, it's another to be utterly incapable of listening to advice and instructions. That's not new. That's stupid. And you can't cure stupid.

Calling such players potatoes is already being extremely generous.

Pretty much my thoughts on the matter. PUG queue in MWO is actually pretty simple. Just follow 2 rules. #1: Go where everyone else is going. Stay with everyone else. #2: Shoot who everyone else is shooting. After that, you can pretty much do what you want. Sadly, that is way too much thought for some people. Those potatoes get called potatoes and sometimes much worse and I don't feel sorry for them.

[0111101]

HGAK47, on 02 April 2017 - 09:32 PM, said:

Hey I suck and make bad decisions as much as the next "potato" but for the love of god please would people give directions at the start and during a battle instead of only moaning after half the team is dead.

Rarely does anyone take the lance or commander leader position thing apart from to annoy us with sound bleeps... /rolls eyes

If I had a french fry for every time I drop called for a bunch of potatoes that didn't listen I'd be able to open my own McDonald's. It is supremely frustrating to do sometimes and that is no doubt creeping into my response here - when I drop call I have my customer service voice on, I am direct, I am polite, I am succinctly conveying information to the team. Identifying primary targets by their letter and chassis, followed by their grid location if necessary... I often scout ahead at the beginning of the match because I have the spawn points memorized. After identifying the composition of the enemy team, I list all of the chassis I saw in addition to where they are grouped up at or headed to.

I offer up a position to receive the enemy at or to make an attack on them from. I remind the team to spread out more while keeping each other covered during the skirmish, and to form a loose firing line in order to avoid a clump of mechs hiding behind each other on the other side of a hill from the enemy. I call out to teammates by name when I see them moving out somewhere dangerous on their own, and if it can be bent to our advantage, request that the team shift with me to reinforce that player's move. I try to set an example and indirectly help teach habits that players should be picking up over the course of their time spent playing.

I've turned losses into wins but for every time I do, there's another match where no one was listening to begin with, or some guy having a bad day told me to shut the **** up and made the rest of the group less likely to give me a chance. Sometimes that gets to me so I end up salty in the next match and complain from start to finish instead of speaking productively or remaining silent. Oops...

Edited by 0111101, 03 April 2017 - 09:12 AM.

[JediPanther]

The only real potato in the game are spider 5vs with this SDR-5V spitato. All mechs are potatos when pgi makes them that bad with lack of hard points or very poor placement of those hard points. Just look back on the vcr years of the cats.

[Mystere]

FuhNuGi, on 02 April 2017 - 11:39 PM, said:

Then the problem is when the drop caller is a potato. Too many potato callers on an event weekend have lead the teams to quick turn around rounds.

Tonight's example: Had 1 potato giving (tactically stupid) movement orders right from power up. I hinted he talked too much. He kept talking while complaining his stalker needed help because it ran too hot and not only still giving poor movement commands, but following his own orders blindly... the rest of the team was smart enough to not solo charge the enemy deathball.

16 damage points the potato caller inflicted upon the enemy lines before bravely sacrificing himself as a live fire target practice exercise.

I looked him up after the round... Sir Potato (not his name) had 31 rounds this season, 30 deaths, no kills and a sub-100 per round damage average. At least now I know his name and I know to mute him early. Even a potato should know with stats like that, it is not a good idea to assume command.

Ever go to a potato field? It's quiet. Potatoes are quiet. Potatoes have eyes. Potatoes should be quiet and watch things.

Yes, and good commanders are born, not made.

[Davegt27]

I am a **** hair from tier 1 at which time I will proclaim my self king of the
Potatoes

Please listen for my calls

Ex -- don't run into that apex (apex is a narrow opening)
Please stop shooting me in the back
Pop your UAV before you round the corner
Domination again!
Get into the fight now or you will be fighting alone
Hit your cool shot (you don't have a cool shot) never mind
You guys are maneuvering into the open
Please tell me you guys are not all dead
Shoot that UAV
Edit: don't charge

Edited by Davegt27, 03 April 2017 - 11:13 AM.

[Athom83]

Davegt27, on 03 April 2017 - 11:09 AM, said:

Please listen for my calls

They're better than the potato calls I get on my teams.

[FireStoat]

Geriatric players with reflexes and hand-eye coordination shot from age making a go at this game using Assault LRM boats are the only spuds I want to scream "Potato!" at, but I refrain because there's no use in doing so. It's not like they're getting any younger.

[Mystere]

FireStoat, on 03 April 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

Geriatric players with reflexes and hand-eye coordination shot from age making a go at this game using Assault LRM boats are the only spuds I want to scream "Potato!" at, but I refrain because there's no use in doing so. It's not like they're getting any younger.

Hand-eye coordination? That's so 20th Century!

[Lozruet Gravemind]

HGAK47, on 02 April 2017 - 09:32 PM, said:

Hey I suck and make bad decisions as much as the next "potato" but for the love of god please would people give directions at the start and during a battle instead of only moaning after half the team is dead.

Rarely does anyone take the lance or commander leader position thing apart from to annoy us with sound bleeps... /rolls eyes

This is because some, including myself, have tried this and WAY to many times had others basically tell me to **** off. In the end the team gets rolled and they still ***** after me trying to help. After about the 50th time of this happening many of us have just decided **** it let them do what they want.

[Napoleon_Blownapart]

Gas Guzzler, on 03 April 2017 - 09:03 AM, said:

Its not new players that are the problem. Its the old timers that cling to bad strategies and doing dumb **** that are the issue, and they have no excuse, other than being stubborn and close-minded.

like me , im still using a joystick and throttle

[Mystere]

Gorantir, on 03 April 2017 - 01:23 PM, said:

like me , im still using a joystick and throttle

Same as the above plus rudder, all mounted on an RSeat RS1 and with iPads as instrument panels.