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[Lupis Volk]

Bishop Steiner, on 07 April 2017 - 05:16 AM, said:

Well, maybe if you would have held a few locks, you wouldn't have been dead and spectating?

If only PGI gave me a little quad rotor UAV that had a tag i could "get locks" and now have to worry about getting my booty lurmed by the enemy.

[Amsro]

Novakaine, on 07 April 2017 - 05:33 AM, said:

It has gotten to the point where my ethnicity is being insulted every other day.
Because I drive a missile boat in this game?
Which I have ran since closed beta.
Personally I find it funny as hell, but when a 10 year child of a friend has to hear such vitriol.
He plays with his dad.
And I made the dumb mistake announcing we had a Jr. Mechwarrior with us.
Never again.
There lot of truly great people here however.........
I'm truly saddened and ashamed of this community.
Oh a side note maybe my kill ratio would rise if I stopped lurming from the frontline.
Hmmm discuss?

I'm of the mindset that kids are just little people, if you can hear it so can they.

Too many people want to put their child in a bubble, as if the real world will never find them.

Better to expose your kids to the real world on your terms so they aren't too soft when they finally get there.

Remember they are real humans nothing more.

[Valleric]

I only have a problem with lrms if it is an assault mech honestly.

[SPencil]

MrMilkshake, on 07 April 2017 - 06:57 AM, said:

She's a beast ! Im reluctant to give out the exact build as in all my years i have never seen it fully copied.

There was only ever one build of the LRM60-Stalker I ever liked; I don't expect you to tell me if this is it, but this was my baby.

Read this after looking at it:

Spoiler

Yea I know it breaks the one rule everyone knows about Stalkers: Never Ever EVER put an XL in a Stalker. IMO it's not the build itself that excuses the XL but the role itself: unless the match has gone sideways and assuming good positioning, LRM support should not be getting shot at anyways. ~10 tons is plenty for a match and the 61km/h after tweak makes proper positioning just a little easier.

Plus the Stalker is also the easiest to cover an exposed side torso via twisting. Seriously, try hitting the left torso of a Stalker looking slightly to the right. Impossible except for splash but here I go making excuses...

Bud Crue, on 07 April 2017 - 07:52 AM, said:

I feel a Bob Marley parody song coming on...

I remember when we used to sit
In the cauldera center on Terra.
And then Trebie would make the fire lights
As it was LRMs burning through the night.
...
Everything's gonna be all right
I said, Everything's gonna be all right
...
So,no AMS, no cry
No, no, AMS, AMS, no cry.
Mechwarrior, little mechwarrior, don't shed no tears.
No AMS, no cry.

I'm conflicted: on one hand I think listening to Reggae while piloting big stompy machines of death amuses me greatly and inspires me to try it tonight, but on the other hand big stompy robots are metal, so,

Trapped in Charlie-four
A dead mech, standing upright
Awaiting the missiles
Death comes with the quickness

AMS rings out loud
While enemy intent draws near
Fall into me, I shall show no fear
Armour will hold under this shroud

Edited by SPencil, 07 April 2017 - 07:15 PM.

[Kamikaze Viking]

only read the first few pages of the thread.

For me the biggest issue is that *most* LRM boats DO NOT SHARE ARMOUR. True that it happens with many other weapon types too (eg ERLL boats).

I dont care if you bring LRM's but if you do. Keep up with the team and expose yourself so that your TEAM MATES DONT TAKE ALL THE DAMAGE! yes you can be behind your front line pokers/traders/brawlers But if you are 2 grids away from the fight then you probably should have moved up 30 sec ago (except on first contact of course).

Praise W to win (doesn't mean always Yolo charge, despite my name).

[Kin3ticX]

I think this game needs Arrow IV

CATAPULT USES FLYING TELEPHONE POLE, ITS SUPER EFFECTIVE!

LRMs are so 2012

[Dee Eight]

Valleric, on 07 April 2017 - 03:10 PM, said:

I only have a problem with lrms if it is an assault mech honestly.

I only have THAT problem if its wasting an otherwise good or at least useful (because of tube counts and/or where the hardpoints are, or what other hardpoints and quirks it has) assault mech on a LRM build. The Mauler 1R and the Spirit bear Kodiak in particular annoy me greatly. The Mauler because people take having a 15% total cooldown for LRM15s to mean they HAVE to then boat four of that size on the mech and not carry any other weapons other than maybe a tag laser. The Spirit bear because its four missile mounts are close together and thus work much better as a splat or streak build. Not to mention the nice high ballistic mount and the two fair high energy mounts on the arms.

To me, proper assault mechs for LRMs have to have a missile heat generation quirk or a missile range quirk, or both. They also need secondary weapons even if they'd just a few medium lasers. And they should NOT have better ballistic/energy hardpoint placements and quirks. Thus we have a couple of the stalkers 5M and 3H), the Awesome 8R, 8V and PB, Battlemaster 1S, Cyclops 10Q, Zeus 6T.

The Victor 9S does not make a good LRM boat because of its tube counts for its launchers. Launcher 1 is a max 10 tubes, launcher 2 is 5 and launcher 3 is only 2 tubes. The zeus 5S has a LRM spread reduction and 3 hardpoints, but here its better as a secondary weapon in support of the very useful UAC quirks and energy quirks. The Zeus 6T is similarly a very good energy mech and the missiles should be the secondary weapon system.

[Lupis Volk]

Valleric, on 07 April 2017 - 03:10 PM, said:

I only have a problem with lrms if it is an assault mech honestly.

I'd agree with that to a point, If it's like the Supernova 3 where all you have is 4 missile points and 2 energy points then lurm away.

[ulrin]

Bob's mech song ? Ok:

" i shoot the sheriff, but i didnt shoot the deputy dwag"

[Aleski]

Lupis Volk, on 07 April 2017 - 03:21 AM, said:

Oh so you use Clan Lurms, those are the easy mode of the easy mode, nice not having an arm distance.

Also quite how your getting rather worked up while in a direct support mech, guess what the IS has none of those and they are the ones that cause the stigma. Not nice dying only to see several team mates that are unscathed and either carrying only lurms or lurms and a pitiful amount of holdout weapons.

I don't agree with you on this point too... I only use two LRM dedicated mech (on 134 chassis that i own) : my MDD-Prime and my Golden Boy.

Golden Boy : 5xLRM 5 + 3xMPL. It's less powerfull compare to the 5xERML of the MDD but you can still have a decent pin point power with the 3xMPL and a possibility to defend against light.

I play it exactly the same as the Mad Dog, so i share armor and help team mates. I never use dedicated LRM boats with no other weapon (beacause, you know, i'm not so bad at this game and i try to be helpfull).

I agree with you on this point : people who brings LRM boats with ONLY Lurms on their mechs are really team dependent and bad builds in my opinion. Ho and bad players are bad. So stop bitching about how bad are lurms, because in the right hands they are dreadfull and very effective. Suppressive fire, annoying and this sort of thing...

Kroete, on 07 April 2017 - 07:02 AM, said:

No AMS, no whine,
especially against a 6x5 dog.

Indeed ! When i dropped in a match and i see a triple AMS + ECM foxie, i know it's time to adapt and spam those ERML and stop waisting lurms ammo. And i think it's fair to face those opponents with very specific builds.

[mouser42]

Is that why some LRM boats go to the back of ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,never mind i don't want to know

[Maker L106]

Speaking as the only very infrequent LRM user, I am typically the NARC guy going around making other people wish LRMS didn't exist. I once had a friend run a stalker /w LRM's and i have no idea how many tubes were on that thing but when someone got lit up by NARC they got systematically deleted from existence within seconds. Between the LRMS's my 2 LPL's and MG's Mechs would absolutely melt under fire.

I've also been in mixed groups where we only bring one LRM or two on a mech or two, so max of maybe 10-30 tubes depending on mech composition and again it takes people who don't derp the LRMS into the walls and enemies who are either legged and are dead anyway or are too slow to get to proper cover to work. But if your NARC guy isn't a chicken and isn't afraid to run like hell while NARCing those targets... there can be some serious misery levied on them.

Add a coordinator to the team who helps call out flanks and what not. Those have been some absolutely brutal matches.

[kesmai]

Racism against LRM?
Like LuRuxclan,or what?

Damn you're really sick...

[Felicitatem Parco]

I think the OP is likening LRM Hate to Racism because they are both juvanile, unintelligent, cause people to feel unhappy and detract from the general positivity of human interactivity.

It's not a literal comparison and anyone with more braincells than sperm cells would be able to see that without blowing their wad all over the keyboard and insulting him for making that comparison.

Obviously nobody has died from LRM Hate, whereas racism is deadly and what I consider to be a form of insanity. On the other hand there is merit to the comparison because both LRM Hate and Racism are for stupid people who like to express hate for others.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 08 April 2017 - 07:36 AM.

[Dee Eight]

Lastnight after I finished master skilling a KCG (all my king crabs are AC builds before anyone assumes I run them as LRM boats) and someone had said at the start there better not be any assault lurm mechs... I switched to my Battlemaster 1S lurm build. Played four games, 2 wins, 2 losses, 2 deaths 7 kills. I'm gonna also take out my WHK-A, my SNV-A, Cyclops 10Q, etc... nothing but lrm mechs this weekend I think starting with the assaults and then the heavies and then the mediums and finally the lights.

Edited by Dee Eight, 08 April 2017 - 07:37 AM.

[Felicitatem Parco]

Dee Eight, on 08 April 2017 - 07:35 AM, said:

Lastnight after I finished master skilling a KCG (all my king crabs are AC builds before anyone assumes I run them as LRM boats) and someone had said at the start there better not be any assault lurm mechs... I switched to my Battlemaster 1S lurm build. Played four games, 2 wins, 2 losses, 2 deaths 7 kills. I'm gonna also take out my WHK-A, my SNV-A, Cyclops 10Q, etc... nothing but lrm mechs this weekend I think starting with the assaults and then the heavies and then the mediums and finally the lights.

I like the LRM80+A Scorch build (MadIIC) . LRM assaults can take tons of ammo numbering in the teens. To me, it makes no sense to bring a small mech with LRMs because you can't bring more than 12 tons of ammo, so why bother?

[BabyCakes666]

Prosperity Park, on 08 April 2017 - 07:43 AM, said:

I like the LRM80+A Scorch build (MadIIC) . LRM assaults can take tons of ammo numbering in the teens. To me, it makes no sense to bring a small mech with LRMs because you can't bring more than 12 tons of ammo, so why bother?

could put in a smaller engine

[GrimReaper74]

From my point of view the causes for LRM hate are quite commonly seen:

- Mechs with good damage potential are turned into LRM only mechs without backup weapons
- These same pilots do not move with the team but hide
- They do not attain their own locks but prefer to use foreign locks.... and then complain when they don't get them

When I use LRM, which is not too often, I use mechs who are thought to be LRM mechs or which can mount LRM as additional but not primary weapons.
As I prefer LRMs with Artemis IV, I attempt to gain my own locks as the spread reduction of the LRM only kicks in then.
Also I prefer to move with the team.

[ClannerBannaner]

I would be okay with lrms if I could turn off screen shaking when they batter my mech. I get extremely motion sick when games have violent shaking and lrms make that so ******* bad. If they allowed people to turn off intense screen shaking that would be awesome.

[JediPanther]

This thread makes me wish i had a decent pc just so I could edit out clayton little's character out of blazing saddles and replace him with a catapult then eddit out the word nig er with lrm-er for the sherif-is-a-negr-welcome scene in rock ridge. If you hate on a video game's weapon system I wonder what type of major a hole you are like rl and how many times the cops are called to deal with you.