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[Kin3ticX]

Dont forget to check out my Kinds of Players thread where I clearly explain what is going on!


The Manbaby: threaten to quit spending $$$ or refund X Y Z mechpack as a goto strategy. They make a very destructive whalesound which can shelve any feature it comes in contact with.

[Darth Hotz]

Coming from a town were a real terrorist decided to kill 12 people with a truck on a christmasmarket, I am very much for deleting this thread. I think the title is insulting for everyone that had to deal with real world terrorism.

[Shifty McSwift]

CadoAzazel, on 13 April 2017 - 01:35 AM, said:

You bomb our cities from afar, and dare to call us terrorists ?!

If language definitions and meaning isn't important, why not just call those disagreeing folks pedophiles too while we are at it?

[Darth Hotz]

As said, just delete it. Nothing good will come from this thread.

[Kin3ticX]

Darth Hotz, on 13 April 2017 - 01:39 AM, said:

Coming from a town were a real terrorist decided to kill 12 people with a truck on a christmasmarket, I am very much for deleting this thread. I think the title is insulting for everyone that had to deal with real world terrorism.

Social Justice MechWarrior appears on queue!

[Widowmaker1981]

What?

This latest Hero wave was really starting to skid around at the top of the slippery slope of P2W, and im very glad PGI have realised and backtracked.

Ill be buying the Hellbringer hero now, even though i dont need it for the Omnipod.

[Lily from animove]

yes PGI took valid p2w concerns into account and prevented them, some SERIOUS terrorists win acts.

It's great that PGI did that because that shwos they care about these things.

Edited by Lily from animove, 13 April 2017 - 03:09 AM.

[Bud Crue]

YAWN!!

Whew...

Sorry.

Sooo..what's goin on?
Man.
Drank way to much last night.
Ugh.
So what is this?
Somethin' 'bout more clan mechs?
Somethin' 'bout whining?

...

K.

Goin back to bed.

[Shifty McSwift]

Kin3ticX, on 13 April 2017 - 01:48 AM, said:

Social Justice MechWarrior appears on queue!

**You have become ambushed by a logical fallacy**

I cast my ignore spell and wait until an actual argument appears.

[Darth Hotz]

Kin3ticX, on 13 April 2017 - 01:48 AM, said:

Social Justice MechWarrior appears on queue!

Has nothing to do with social justice. Has much to do with the adequacy of the words used for the title of this thread. Do you think it is appropriate to write "The terrorists won" when talking about the redesign of some virtual mechs in a computer game? I dont.

[Lily from animove]

Darth Hotz, on 13 April 2017 - 02:41 AM, said:

Has nothing to do with social justice. Has much to do with the adequacy of the words used for the title of this thread. Do you think it is appropriate to write "The terrorists won" when talking about the redesign of some virtual mechs in a computer game? I dont.

terrorists are usually those against an existing system. So it looks like form a wallet warrior point of view that someone saw some nice wallet advatanges incoming and is now a bit mad at those rebels/terrorists.

[Kin3ticX]

Lily from animove, on 13 April 2017 - 03:10 AM, said:

terrorists are usually those against an existing system. So it looks like form a wallet warrior point of view that someone saw some nice wallet advatanges incoming and is now a bit mad at those rebels/terrorists.

If only Bernie Sanders would have won we could force all the whales to melt down their Gold Mechs and give every player an urbanmech

He can still win (he cant)


Now we have Hero Mechs killing everything, you cant even play this game anymore with cbill mechs (you can)

[Shifty McSwift]

Terrorism; The act of targeting non combatants (most specifically civilians) in a conflict in an attempt to demoralise and/or dis-empower the political/social/military system of one side.

[Lily from animove]

Shifty McSwift, on 13 April 2017 - 03:21 AM, said:

Terrorism; The act of targeting non combatants (most specifically civilians) in a conflict in an attempt to demoralise and/or dis-empower the political/social/military system of one side.

yeha nice definition, still wrong. Because it would make every country bombing in the past world wars terrorists. The only true difference is, that terrorists don't have a real accepted gouvernment behind what they do. The rest is just similar to a guerilla war like behavior. it is an attemp of establsiehd politicians to give someone a bad image. So the term is highly subjective.

[Shifty McSwift]

Lily from animove, on 13 April 2017 - 03:26 AM, said:

yeha nice definition, still wrong. Because it would make every country bombing in the past world wars terrorists. The only true difference is, that terrorists don't have a real accepted gouvernment behind what they do. The rest is just similar to a guerilla war like behavior. it is an attemp of establsiehd politicians to give someone a bad image. So the term is highly subjective.

No because the definition exclusively defines the act of targeting civilians, as in directly and purposely killing non combatants. It is a sort of loophole in language when you consider things like drone strikes killing civilians as they weren't the direct target, this is where collateral damage as a term comes in.

In historical examples like firebombing/nuking of Japanese cities it could definitely be argued as such, but most of these definitions as we know them now were crafted or given new meaning during a post WW2 world. The definitions of course favor those who had the power to write or rewrite them.

[Lily from animove]

Shifty McSwift, on 13 April 2017 - 03:35 AM, said:

No because the definition exclusively defines the act of targeting civilians, as in directly and purposely killing non combatants. It is a sort of loophole in language when you consider things like drone strikes killing civilians as they weren't the direct target, this is where collateral damage as a term comes in.

In historical examples like firebombing/nuking of Japanese cities it could definitely be argued as such, but most of these definitions as we know them now were crafted or given new meaning during a post WW2 world. The definitions of course favor those who had the power to write or rewrite them.

you cna still bet your butt that if a war happens today between bigger nations they would still very clearly bomb civilians too, it is an illusion that wars are kept clean.

[Shifty McSwift]

Lily from animove, on 13 April 2017 - 03:38 AM, said:

you cna still bet your butt that if a war happens today between bigger nations they would still very clearly bomb civilians too, it is an illusion that wars are kept clean.

Depends on circumstance. I could probably argue that the act of continuing to bomb targets that your own intelligence has shown to often be faulty, to the point where you are at times, just killing civilians could be construed as terrorism, though I doubt the ones in power would become subject to law or morality all of a sudden.

I could also argue that quite a number of attacks that have been considered terrorist attacks, really weren't, as that idea of specifically targeting civilians vs collateral damage is a double edged blade (cuts both ways).

But again the contemporary definition is as I stated, and should really remain as such, if you start applying that to non violent discourse, considering those contemporary definitions, you can end up with serious problems, like non violent political dissidents being treated in the same category as people who purposely kill civilians to serve their cause.

Edited by Shifty McSwift, 13 April 2017 - 03:50 AM.

[Alistair Winter]

This thread is hilarious. Thanks for the laugh, OP. 10/10

[TWIAFU]

Mikato Soul, on 12 April 2017 - 07:30 PM, said:

Great job, a small number of the loudest whiners have lead to a neutering of the latest clan mech release. Like seriously, Club Penguin shut down, and now the same people want MWO to be their new "safe place".

The same people who whined about it, wouldn't have the skill to make any difference with or with out them anyways. Instead they are just stifling creativity and mech science for every one else.

Congratulations, the terrorists have won.

*Edit:C bill variants I dig, but there are still several nerfed variants that will never have their full glory.

https://mwomercs.com...clan-hero-mechs

Terrorists? Really?

Are you that f*#&%)# stupid?!

It would appear so.

[G4LV4TR0N]

Such a great thread to follow. You've got my thumbs up. Gonna throw forum "likes" to both sides expecting more to come.