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[Jackal Noble]

Ruar, on 23 April 2017 - 03:03 PM, said:

You're aggravating me right now because you don't agree with me.

I'm aggravating myself.

[Mister Blastman]

JackalBeast, on 23 April 2017 - 03:04 PM, said:

If you are insinuating that I am pulling some kind of SJW crap, you're wrong. Hell, I have been on the wrong side of things more than right in this forum, but flaming someone with what in effect becomes a group activity is still lame.

32 years. Getting married this July. I like long walks on the beach.

Just asking a simple question. Thank you for the figure.

Ted got what was coming to him. He puffed his chest, dared he was better than others, touted his superiority and well... the forum happened. He has only himself to blame, not the others. They were simply circling the forest when they spotted the animal trotting through the woods. It wasn't their fault the animal tripped on the barbed wire fence, either. They were simply doing as designed by the laws of nature.

Anyways, no sense in dragging it out if he's not going to respond anymore. I'm sure there's plenty to suggest he should re-think his approach next time.

Maybe.

[Ruar]

JackalBeast, on 23 April 2017 - 03:09 PM, said:

I'm aggravating myself.

I just wanted to show how subjective the concept of aggravation can be.

Mister Blastman, on 23 April 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

Just asking a simple question. Thank you for the figure.

Ted got what was coming to him. He puffed his chest, dared he was better than others, touted his superiority and well... the forum happened. He has only himself to blame, not the others. They were simply circling the forest when they spotted the animal trotting through the woods. It wasn't their fault the animal tripped on the barbed wire fence, either. They were simply doing as designed by the laws of nature.

Anyways, no sense in dragging it out if he's not going to respond anymore. I'm sure there's plenty to suggest he should re-think his approach next time.

Maybe.

He won't based on his replies in the LRM is racism thread that is going on. Ted seems convinced LRMs are the answer.

[Trenchbird]

Ruar, on 23 April 2017 - 03:18 PM, said:

He won't based on his replies in the LRM is racism thread that is going on. Ted seems convinced LRMs are the answer.

Then I will enjoy tearing him apart at right and proper close range for thinking they are.

Edited by Catten Hart, 23 April 2017 - 03:23 PM.

[MischiefSC]

Hunchie LRM boat with head laser is quirked to do it better and doesn't rob your team of a useful heavy.

I peeked down a Scorch yesterday on Tourmaline. Peek over the rocks, BLAT. Ac20, 2xsrm6a, ML in his pie hole. 50.7 pts. He blasts back..... but like 95% of me is in cover. I take maybe 10 pts spread over my sexy, sexy torsos and arms. Do it again, his ST is gone. Finished in the back as he tried to run.

It's a peek brawler. I effing love it.

As to my right to criticize him.... well, when I went to bed last night I was about 25th on 3 of the variants (the ones I played) on the event leaderboard. I've probably dropped but I'll fix that tomorrow. I'm comfortable that I'm handling the Roughnecks well.

[Jackal Noble]

Yep, lrm racism - it's a helluva thing.

[Ted Wayz]

Mister Blastman, on 23 April 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

Anyways, no sense in dragging it out if he's not going to respond anymore. I'm sure there's plenty to suggest he should re-think his approach next time.

Why? What did I miss? Can someone sum it up for me, I have been outside all day.

Catten Hart, on 23 April 2017 - 03:23 PM, said:

Then I will enjoy tearing him apart at right and proper close range for thinking they are.

Not if I see you first.

BTW, I tend to engage at 300-400M with LRMs so I am not that hard to spot.

Deathlike, on 23 April 2017 - 01:09 PM, said:

Ironically LRM missile placement is mostly irrelevant. What actually matters is arm articulation with the occasional high mounted TAG (the things Awesomes and Hunchbacks use).

Actually it does make a difference. Something that people who do not know how to LRM do not realize.

Alexander of Macedon, on 23 April 2017 - 01:32 PM, said:

Yeah. Like I said earlier, if you filter for heavies only, his W/L and K/D are in the dumpster. They're being propped up by his performances in other weight classes.

That counts my AC20 Roughneck, my SRM24 Roughneck, my LB10X Roughneck and a few more variants besides my LRM 30 Roughneck and the LRM20 Roughneck I took out twice, both of which raised my W/L and KDR comparatively.

Haters going to hate.

Ruar, on 23 April 2017 - 01:47 PM, said:

It's sad when holding someone accountable for their actions is somehow viewed as a negative action. He came on here and opened himself up to criticism, don't start crying when people then provide that criticism.

Yes, give it to him full blast. I am sure this will be affecting his ego!

[Deathlike]

Ted Wayz, on 23 April 2017 - 03:56 PM, said:

Actually it does make a difference. Something that people who do not know how to LRM do not realize.

The only time that matters is if you are trying to clear buildings (and mechs) and such. Most LRM usage I see people ignoring it and keep firing at their locked targets indiscriminately.

[Ted Wayz]

Deathlike, on 23 April 2017 - 04:01 PM, said:

The only time that matters is if you are trying to clear buildings (and mechs) and such. Most LRM usage I see people ignoring it and keep firing at their locked targets indiscriminately.

So this thread all started from the match you and I were in on Viridian Bog. You in your Locust, me in a LRM 20 Roughneck. I was using the high hard points to nail mechs on the ledge from near its base. Won't bring up your score (it was pretty bad) but I was second to last standing and had the second highest score.

When people saw that I was using a LRM Roughneck they lost their minds. I become the reason we lost, why their marriage broke up, and the cause of cancer. Even though they were all dead and their scores were absolutely atrocious.

That is when I thought, "If an LRM Roughneck causes so much ire in game I wonder what would happen on the forums".

The LRM Roughneck never fails to deliver.

[Deathlike]

Ted Wayz, on 23 April 2017 - 04:09 PM, said:

So this thread all started from the match you and I were in on Viridian Bog. You in your Locust, me in a LRM 20 Roughneck. I was using the high hard points to nail mechs on the ledge from near its base. Won't bring up your score (it was pretty bad) but I was second to last standing and had the second highest score.

When people saw that I was using a LRM Roughneck they lost their minds. I become the reason we lost, why their marriage broke up, and the cause of cancer. Even though they were all dead and their scores were absolutely atrocious.

That is when I thought, "If an LRM Roughneck causes so much ire in game I wonder what would happen on the forums".

The LRM Roughneck never fails to deliver.

Uh, I was in a Pirate's Bane. I'm not supposed to carry all the players Lurms.

[Ted Wayz]

Deathlike, on 23 April 2017 - 04:13 PM, said:

Uh, I was in a Pirate's Bane. I'm not supposed to carry all the players Lurms.

Now now. If you are carrying anything but Lurms you should be getting match scores of 300 plus. Just read this thread.

[Zergling]

FYI, the single battle scores don't mean anything.

Anyone can score well if they play enough battles to get lucky; what matters is being able to consistently score good.

[Kin3ticX]

OMG guys I am so tired of all the hate from my own team when I drive my LRM Spirit Bear. Its practically racism at this point. I always remind them to shutup because they are dead and I am still doing my job providing indirect fire support as the last member of my team.

This community is just toxic.

Not everyone has to conform to your metamechs.com cookie cutter idea of how to play.

LRMs take a lot of skill to use and I often outdamage other potatoes therefore true fax.

[Ted Wayz]

Zergling, on 23 April 2017 - 05:00 PM, said:

FYI, the single battle scores don't mean anything.

Anyone can score well if they play enough battles to get lucky; what matters is being able to consistently score good.

And I thought the goal was to have fun.

I feel like such a sap now.

[Zergling]

Ted Wayz, on 23 April 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

And I thought the goal was to have fun.

I feel like such a sap now.

You're already bringing out the 'I play for fun' excuse when it isn't even relevant?

I'll put it simply: achieving a higher match score than other players in a single battle does not make you immune to criticism. You need to consistently score high for your results to speak for themself, and for them to grant that sort of immunity to criticism.

[Jubblator]

I like people with LRMS, they are easy kills. If you still havent found out how to hide from LRMS or that you should use Radar Depravation module, well then just do it. Watch some videos =)

LRMS are only viable if you have dedicated spotters/narcs (look up the LRM B33f video when they do faction warfare, bloody hilarious and with a well coordinated team it works) since if you have none (lets face it, that is a niche role and people in QP rarely roll it) then any player above tier 5 with any experience will barely get hit by your missiles (so eventually you will meet a ton of better players since your tier will rise, lacking necessary brawling skills).

May i assume there was no personal Tag involved as well?

Having said that, i do enjoy a 80lrm derp with my scorch, its fun to unload in someones face at 300m while shooting med lazors =) Also its easy farm for c-bills (because of the damage that spreads all over), on the lower tiers (must say that recently i much more prefer brawling with lbx20s, netting more component etc. kills =more c-bills =)

So if you have fun getting berated online, start threads like these. If you like playing LRMS, do it, just make sure to turn the chat off ^^

Kin3ticX, on 23 April 2017 - 05:03 PM, said:

OMG guys I am so tired of all the hate from my own team when I drive my LRM Spirit Bear. Its practically racism at this point. I always remind them to shutup because they are dead and I am still doing my job providing indirect fire support as the last member of my team.

This community is just toxic.

Not everyone has to conform to your metamechs.com cookie cutter idea of how to play.

LRMs take a lot of skill to use and I often outdamage other potatoes therefore true fax.

HAHAHAH youre trolling right? =)
no?

This is one of the least toxic team-PVP communities of this size that i have ever seen and i play a lot of multiplayer pvp games. So sorry you feel like youre getting bashed over the head, unless youre just trolling now =D

And seriously ffs people learn to google, RACISM means something completely different then what you think it does, using it in this manner makes you look like an imbecile.

Edited by Jubblator, 23 April 2017 - 05:13 PM.

[Ruar]

Ted Wayz, on 23 April 2017 - 04:09 PM, said:

So this thread all started from the match you and I were in on Viridian Bog. You in your Locust, me in a LRM 20 Roughneck. I was using the high hard points to nail mechs on the ledge from near its base. Won't bring up your score (it was pretty bad) but I was second to last standing and had the second highest score.

When people saw that I was using a LRM Roughneck they lost their minds. I become the reason we lost, why their marriage broke up, and the cause of cancer. Even though they were all dead and their scores were absolutely atrocious.

That is when I thought, "If an LRM Roughneck causes so much ire in game I wonder what would happen on the forums".

The LRM Roughneck never fails to deliver.

Pretty sure I was in that match as well in an Assassin. I don't remember anyone blaming your LRM Roughneck for the loss, simply that piloting an LRM Roughneck was a bad choice and you shouldn't do it again.

I know I did pretty crappy on that match myself but the whole team did. We split around the center instead of staying together, failed to engage their clusters of mechs which allowed them to pick us apart individually. It was one of a string of matches where I saw similar things happening in my teams so I eventually did an end run around their folks on the high ground which resulted in my death.

The point, because you have obviously missed it in both the game chat and on this thread, is that just because you can mount LRMs in a Roughneck doesn't make such a setup a good idea. The Roughneck is not designed for rear line support and anyone who uses it in such a manner is playing it less efficiently than other builds. Don't get upset when your teammates call you out on the fact that you are playing a bad build.

Scores usually reflect the overall team performance for most mechs. An LRM boat generally has a baseline it scores with a few matches higher and a few matches lower. It doesn't reflect team performance as much because most LRM boats are for the individual, not the team. Please don't brag about your score when you are playing a mech that only benefits you and not the actual team objectives in most matches.

[MischiefSC]

Kin3ticX, on 23 April 2017 - 05:03 PM, said:

OMG guys I am so tired of all the hate from my own team when I drive my LRM Spirit Bear. Its practically racism at this point. I always remind them to shutup because they are dead and I am still doing my job providing indirect fire support as the last member of my team.

This community is just toxic.

Not everyone has to conform to your metamechs.com cookie cutter idea of how to play.

LRMs take a lot of skill to use and I often outdamage other potatoes therefore true fax.

Oh Poes Law. I wonder how many LRM players will see your post and go "**** yah! Steering wheel in one hand, joystick in the other and foot pedals for torso twist! Y'all don't know 'bout mah lurm Thudderbolt wif MGs an' erll fer backup!" Mech has "SISTR <3" decals on the back.

[Deathlike]

MischiefSC, on 23 April 2017 - 05:43 PM, said:

Oh Poes Law. I wonder how many LRM players will see your post and go "**** yah! Steering wheel in one hand, joystick in the other and foot pedals for torso twist! Y'all don't know 'bout mah lurm Thudderbolt wif MGs an' erll fer backup!" Mech has "SISTR <3" decals on the back.

You're describing what happens with the lazy eye of a potato.

[Kangarad]

Just comming in to say that lurms on a Roughneck SUCK.
Take some srms and some heavy Balistics and you will do far greater.

and to prove that I know what I am talking about...

have this inferior mech with inferior weapon setup and way too low ammo count out do your pathetic 300 matchscore.
since you only too your lurm boats out once or twice total this once should be enough to compare.

BJ-2(L) 4xsrm4, 5 tons of ammo. = 553 matchscore and 725 damage.



the Shadowhawk I use from time to time also runs out of ammo alot at around 600-800 damage.

do you have any 1k+ games with your lurm boat yet? no? you should because lurm damage spreads all over and does not do clean kills at all. you can theoreticaly kill an entire team with just 400 but it increases by alot when 50% of your missiles do not hit ct and more do not reach it/get shot down by ams/hit cover.

lurms are just not effective without the use of narc or artemis+tag and even then you'll need atleast 3 alrm10 or 4 lrm5 for effective lurming, while still having backup weapons that can do a good ammount of damage