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Posted 04 May 2017 - 08:57 PM

Sounds like a fun challenge.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 09:12 PM

That's a lotta loot, gentlemen. Looking forward to some good matches this coming week.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 09:26 PM

My off days end today....Ahrgl.
Can we start the counting a bit earlier?

Edited by Kinski Orlawisch, 04 May 2017 - 09:40 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 09:34 PM

Thanks for all the hate, guys. We appreciate it. It encourages us to play more, and to reach out to be part of the greater community. Knowing that there are so many cool people out there, ya know, makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

As far as your statements that suggest PGI is incapable of changing our contracts, however, I would beg to differ. It is indeed possible. They've done it before, and they can do it again. Don't sell them short.

As far as your statements that harken back to some fine print a couple weeks ago, I guess I didn't get that memo. Even then, the statement said simply 'faction fight.' Now, we don't know what that faction fight is, so we can't really pick a faction beforehand, can we? We are Wolfs Dragoons, but we work for LOKI, which sends us on clandestine operations.

If it were the FedCom Civil War, we might want to pick the Arc Royal Defense Cordon, joining the Kell Hounds and Clan Wolf-in-Exile. If it were the Battle of Luthien, we'd pick Wolf's Dragoons (meaning, I suppose, we'd be Kurita or Davion that week, depending on how the event was set up). Otherwise, the Dragoons didn't fight in the Clan Wars. If it were the 4th Succession War, we'd have to pick Davion, because Wolf's Dragoons were in their employ, and we have a bone to pick with Kurita. If it were the Battle of Tukayyid, we'd pick Wolf because 1. Comstar is our enemy and 2. We are wardens. So, tell me, oh great condemners of the MWO forums, HOW in the world are we supposed to pick a faction if we don't know what TIME in history the event takes place?

There is also our loyalty and comradery we created with the players in the MWO community that factors into things. We're a casual group of players, but we do enjoy a challenge once in awhile, and we want to play for the team we want to play for. If we fight for LIAO, by default, we are Comstar, and that goes against what my unit stands for.

Everyone plays this game for different reasons. I know I'm not in the majority when it comes to lore, but my unit enjoys lore and wishes to feel part of the greater universe, with some sort of purpose. In the daily CW grind, there really is no purpose. There's nothing to show for our efforts, and little variety of stuff to do in FW. We also can't play our clan mechs when running in IS, and vice versa. Is it our fault that we like variety? Should we be punished because we're trying to enjoy what we can from the game? Some of you think so.

What I don't understand is that while I've made our case very clear, you condemn us. We're appealing to PGI to let us play with our friends, and you're putting us down for trying. Why? What does it get you? Does it make you feel good to put us down? To tell us that we're a bunch of dirtbags for not being loyalists when rarely, if ever, does lore actually play a role in this game? It does now, and so now we care. How is that YOUR problem?

So, I will ask again. I beseech PGI to let us play with our friends. We're just trying to have a good time. I know there are other good units out there to pair up with, but we have already created friendly relationships with other units that we want to enjoy - and now we have a real reason to dust off our mechs once again. Perhaps the folks in PGI don't know what it's like to run a unit, and to gather up a group of people and keep them together and hold them together through long periods of stagnancy in the game's development. What it's like to try to recruit new blood when the old blood is all on standby or dabbling in other games while waiting for PGI to start flushing out faction warfare into what we founders have been waiting for for many years. We haven't given up hope.

I guess that's where the real rub is regarding you guys on the forums who are putting us down for trying to play with our friends in this event. You are breaking down our resolve, making us feel hopeless, telling us PGI doesn't care about us, and that the other players out there would rather condemn than play with us. It's really discouraging.

But I won't give up hope while there's still time. The event hasn't started it. But once the event starts, if we're not wolves, then IDK. I guess you guys win. There will be fewer players to fill up the queues and enjoy the event, but you'll feel good that at least us lore junkies are not part of the LORE DRIVEN EVENT?

Thank you once again for your support. Our dropship is on it's way to rendezvous with the Dire Wolf to participate in the batchall for Tukayyid. Whether the Devil Dogs will be included in the bid is up to PGI. All we can do is ask and ready ourselves should PGI allow us to join our friends and play.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 09:34 PM

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:


Don't do this to us. PLEASE don't do this to us. We really want to play in this event, but:
Some of us would NEVER play for Liao.
Some of us will ONLY play for Wolf.

We are only Liao for the Cbills currently, because there faction play was meaningless. Now that it has meaning, we must be allowed to play with our trothkin, as we have the last two events. If you'd announced this a day earlier, we would not have taken our current contract.

You MUST let us play with our friends. Don't do this to us! This is the first event my unit has been excited to play in months!

Our unit did well on the leaderboards in the past, and we want to see if we can match that achievement again. But I need to have my guys united in order to show up at all!

PLEASE change us to Wolf. PLEASE.


So basically you want all the merc-benefits but none of the consequences? I get your problem and i think its ok to work the system from time to time, but changing your contracts now would be very upsetting for all the IS loyalists, that are playing IS even with the current imbalance.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 09:44 PM

View PostWarschnuffel, on 04 May 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

So basically you want all the merc-benefits but none of the consequences? I get your problem and i think its ok to work the system from time to time, but changing your contracts now would be very upsetting for all the IS loyalists, that are playing IS even with the current imbalance.


Imbalance? LOL. Scouting is dominated by IS mechs. That's going to help Comstar out a lot this event. As far as the rest of the fights, skill is the deciding factor. Never before have IS mechs been so balanced with Clan tech. We're not out to club baby seals. We're not that good, believe me! We just want to play with our friends, be part of the team we've fought with in the past.

IS loyalists? Please. You can't invoke lore loyalties without recognizing that the IS didn't fight at Tukayyid. It was the Com Guard and only the Com Guard. And they were only fighting once they realized their planet (Terra) was threatened. Otherwise, they were busy stabbing everyone in the back getting ready to turn the entire post war inner sphere into a Blakist utopia. If I were an IS faction, and knew those things, I'd want to take Terra for myself while the Comguard was busy fighting for it. They don't deserve to hold the cradle of humanity.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 09:46 PM

View PostKingCobra, on 04 May 2017 - 08:57 PM, said:

HEY PGI NOW WOULD BE A GREAT TIME FOR A 50% OFF SALE on MECHBAYS.https://static.mwomercs.com/forums//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png


#GREEDIZGUD
Theres mech bay rewards in the event and so much MC you can get 3 - 4 at full price.

Edited by CadoAzazel, 04 May 2017 - 10:02 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 10:25 PM

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

Thanks for all the hate, guys. We appreciate it. It encourages us to play more, and to reach out to be part of the greater community. Knowing that there are so many cool people out there, ya know, makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

As far as your statements that suggest PGI is incapable of changing our contracts, however, I would beg to differ. It is indeed possible. They've done it before, and they can do it again. Don't sell them short.

As far as your statements that harken back to some fine print a couple weeks ago, I guess I didn't get that memo. Even then, the statement said simply 'faction fight.' Now, we don't know what that faction fight is, so we can't really pick a faction beforehand, can we? We are Wolfs Dragoons, but we work for LOKI, which sends us on clandestine operations.

If it were the FedCom Civil War, we might want to pick the Arc Royal Defense Cordon, joining the Kell Hounds and Clan Wolf-in-Exile. If it were the Battle of Luthien, we'd pick Wolf's Dragoons (meaning, I suppose, we'd be Kurita or Davion that week, depending on how the event was set up). Otherwise, the Dragoons didn't fight in the Clan Wars. If it were the 4th Succession War, we'd have to pick Davion, because Wolf's Dragoons were in their employ, and we have a bone to pick with Kurita. If it were the Battle of Tukayyid, we'd pick Wolf because 1. Comstar is our enemy and 2. We are wardens. So, tell me, oh great condemners of the MWO forums, HOW in the world are we supposed to pick a faction if we don't know what TIME in history the event takes place?

There is also our loyalty and comradery we created with the players in the MWO community that factors into things. We're a casual group of players, but we do enjoy a challenge once in awhile, and we want to play for the team we want to play for. If we fight for LIAO, by default, we are Comstar, and that goes against what my unit stands for.

Everyone plays this game for different reasons. I know I'm not in the majority when it comes to lore, but my unit enjoys lore and wishes to feel part of the greater universe, with some sort of purpose. In the daily CW grind, there really is no purpose. There's nothing to show for our efforts, and little variety of stuff to do in FW. We also can't play our clan mechs when running in IS, and vice versa. Is it our fault that we like variety? Should we be punished because we're trying to enjoy what we can from the game? Some of you think so.

What I don't understand is that while I've made our case very clear, you condemn us. We're appealing to PGI to let us play with our friends, and you're putting us down for trying. Why? What does it get you? Does it make you feel good to put us down? To tell us that we're a bunch of dirtbags for not being loyalists when rarely, if ever, does lore actually play a role in this game? It does now, and so now we care. How is that YOUR problem?

So, I will ask again. I beseech PGI to let us play with our friends. We're just trying to have a good time. I know there are other good units out there to pair up with, but we have already created friendly relationships with other units that we want to enjoy - and now we have a real reason to dust off our mechs once again. Perhaps the folks in PGI don't know what it's like to run a unit, and to gather up a group of people and keep them together and hold them together through long periods of stagnancy in the game's development. What it's like to try to recruit new blood when the old blood is all on standby or dabbling in other games while waiting for PGI to start flushing out faction warfare into what we founders have been waiting for for many years. We haven't given up hope.

I guess that's where the real rub is regarding you guys on the forums who are putting us down for trying to play with our friends in this event. You are breaking down our resolve, making us feel hopeless, telling us PGI doesn't care about us, and that the other players out there would rather condemn than play with us. It's really discouraging.

But I won't give up hope while there's still time. The event hasn't started it. But once the event starts, if we're not wolves, then IDK. I guess you guys win. There will be fewer players to fill up the queues and enjoy the event, but you'll feel good that at least us lore junkies are not part of the LORE DRIVEN EVENT?

Thank you once again for your support. Our dropship is on it's way to rendezvous with the Dire Wolf to participate in the batchall for Tukayyid. Whether the Devil Dogs will be included in the bid is up to PGI. All we can do is ask and ready ourselves should PGI allow us to join our friends and play.


The point here is that if PGI let you change your contract then others will follow and soon there would be many more Clan Player then IS player and the waiting times would drastically become worse.

Let´s hope for that the waiting times won´t be that bad and good luck out there to all who will take part in Tukayyid 3.


*just my two cents*

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 10:29 PM

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

Thanks for all the hate, guys. We appreciate it. It encourages us to play more, and to reach out to be part of the greater community. Knowing that there are so many cool people out there, ya know, makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.


No one has been hateful towards you, you want to see hate go expose your sheltered mind to league of legends Bronze Division or 4chan.

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

As far as your statements that suggest PGI is incapable of changing our contracts, however, I would beg to differ. It is indeed possible. They've done it before, and they can do it again. Don't sell them short.

Thankyou for enlightening me

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

As far as your statements that harken back to some fine print a couple weeks ago, I guess I didn't get that memo. Even then, the statement said simply 'faction fight.' Now, we don't know what that faction fight is, so we can't really pick a faction beforehand, can we? We are Wolfs Dragoons, but we work for LOKI, which sends us on clandestine operations.


Your bad at playing a LORE role. Wolf Dragoons when between contracts(events) are freelancers therefore you shouldn't be playing FP/CW for a faction when no event is on. IF Lore is SO IMPORTANT to you. you should be doing a BETTER JOB at browsing the forums / twitter for knowledge that eventsare coming up and leaving whatever contract you have in preparation for whatever contract you need to take for your lore for the upcoming event, HELL, if I was you i would have been freelancer from the moment they showed steiner/davion civil war images ready for an event.

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

HOW in the world are we supposed to pick a faction if we don't know what TIME in history the event takes place?


By not being a Faction when your mechs are being repaired/refitted for MONTHS between contracts(events) inside 30th century universe, god your bad at this lore roleplaying thing aren't you.

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

There is also our loyalty and comradery we created with the players in the MWO community that factors into things. We're a casual group of players, but we do enjoy a challenge once in awhile, and we want to play for the team we want to play for. If we fight for LIAO, by default, we are Comstar, and that goes against what my unit stands for.


Boohoo, join all the other groups who aren't where they would like to be, your not special and dont deserve special treatment.

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

Is it our fault that we like variety? Should we be punished because we're trying to enjoy what we can from the game? Some of you think so.


We all like variety, I dont want you punished, I just want you to realise your god complex ego needs deflating and you dont deserve special treatment.

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

What I don't understand is that while I've made our case very clear, you condemn us. We're appealing to PGI to let us play with our friends, and you're putting us down for trying. Why? What does it get you? Does it make you feel good to put us down? To tell us that we're a bunch of dirtbags for not being loyalists when rarely, if ever, does lore actually play a role in this game? It does now, and so now we care. How is that YOUR problem?


If you get to cancel your contract/ make a new one, why doesn't everyone else get to ?
If everyone else gets to how do you stop 99% of the COMPETENT PLAYERS from going clan and the clan queue time blowing out to 2 hours for 1 drop?
Thats how its our problem.
And you not being prepared is your own fault not ours as I have clearly explained.

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

PGI to start flushing out faction warfare into what we founders have been waiting for for many years. We haven't given up hope.

Good luck with that, everyone enjoys immersion/a good story.

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

I guess that's where the real rub is regarding you guys on the forums who are putting us down for trying to play with our friends in this event. You are breaking down our resolve, making us feel hopeless, telling us PGI doesn't care about us, and that the other players out there would rather condemn than play with us. It's really discouraging.


PGI cares about.
They just dont care about you MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE. No one said they wouldn't play with you. You have paranoia issues dont you, seeing a shrink for that ?

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

But I won't give up hope while there's still time. The event hasn't started it. But once the event starts, if we're not wolves, then IDK. I guess you guys win. There will be fewer players to fill up the queues and enjoy the event, but you'll feel good that at least us lore junkies are not part of the LORE DRIVEN EVENT?


Really dont care if your there or not I have no problem with people who actually have a clue how to be a lore junkie/roleplayer, just egotistical god complex "im special" nanny state "entitled kid minds" who are often over 30 asking for special treatment that they cant get without disadvantaging everyone else.

Queue times are going to be "interesting"

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

Thank you once again for your support. Our dropship is on it's way to rendezvous with the Dire Wolf to participate in the batchall for Tukayyid. Whether the Devil Dogs will be included in the bid is up to PGI. All we can do is ask and ready ourselves should PGI allow us to join our friends and play.


Its like your trying to do an old western hold up at gun point, its quite amusing.

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 09:44 PM, said:

As far as the rest of the fights, skill is the deciding factor. Never before have IS mechs been so balanced with Clan tech.

Oh god I agree with him.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 10:29 PM

Can you pelase switch the tiers "easy meadium hard epic" to tier 1 2 3 and 4. 8 scouting wins over 8 days isn't actually "hard"

But overall, nice MC prizes included.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 10:33 PM

PGI really needs to work on their communication...

Creating big banners on the frontpage of the webside, telling everybody that the new mechpackage early adopter reward ends in
9...8..7..6..5..4..3..2..1.. days but on the other hand they let ppl know that tukayyid3 will be fought like... oh.. tomorrow... is just ********.

And that tiny little post somebody quoted that "the next event will be FW assigned" or something like that just don't count.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 10:36 PM

ALos, one question about the unit challange

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Prize will be given to each player in your unit (including those who did not participate)


what actually IS the prize? the personal and solo challange don't show any individual prizes, only the complete one shows prizes. But if there only exist prizes for both in combination thereis no way someone cna "not participate" as he will have to at least furfill the personal goal.

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If you have not achieved the Solitary Challenge option but your unit members have completed the United Challenge option, you will also receive the reward.


So I guess someone forgot to split the GXP and Cbill rewards of the total to their individual 2 tasks.


View PostThrudvangar, on 04 May 2017 - 10:33 PM, said:

PGI really needs to work on their communication...

Creating big banners on the frontpage of the webside, telling everybody that the new mechpackage early adopter reward ends in
9...8..7..6..5..4..3..2..1.. days but on the other hand they let ppl know that tukayyid3 will be fought like... oh.. tomorrow... is just ********.

And that tiny little post somebody quoted that "the next event will be FW assigned" or something like that just don't count.


thats probably intended to prevent people from faction hopping,y et with the duration of the event, people may still be able to do so.

Edited by Lily from animove, 04 May 2017 - 10:36 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 10:41 PM

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Upon completion of the Tukayyid event the Faction Play mode will be inactive until the May 16 patch, at which time the map will be reset and a new Season will begin.


Does the map reset also mean a contract reset?

Edited by Blue Splint, 04 May 2017 - 10:42 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 10:42 PM

So what the mercenaries are going to say is:
"hey PGI, we build up the story of an IS mercenary unit with Clan tech because we want to play with that far better tech/Mechs and we want to win side by side with our Clan friends, even if Clan society hates mercenaries and would never ever use one of their units to fight with them"?

Sorry I do understand the tempting story for a mercenary unit to play as a similar unit as the "Wolf's Dragoons" just to be free and play with Clan tech but in fact the Wolf's Dragoons where a massive exception (with their sub-unit the Irregulars) and first of all a unit on a spy mission, before they eventually sided with the IS. They only had Clan tech because Jaime Wolf knew about Star League caches.
It is ridiculous (I've no right word for this in english which is less offensive, so pls fill in the right word and correct me) to play as that one special mercenary unit. Clan Wolf-in exile where founded after Tukayid (you maybe can play such a unit in the next time line)

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 10:43 PM

A better line of communication with the player base is not too much to ask.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 10:49 PM

View PostLily from animove, on 04 May 2017 - 10:36 PM, said:

ALos, one question about the unit challange



what actually IS the prize? the personal and solo challange don't show any individual prizes, only the complete one shows prizes. But if there only exist prizes for both in combination thereis no way someone cna "not participate" as he will have to at least furfill the personal goal.



So I guess someone forgot to split the GXP and Cbill rewards of the total to their individual 2 tasks.




thats probably intended to prevent people from faction hopping,y et with the duration of the event, people may still be able to do so.



Yeah maybe but its not only about this event. Its in genererally...

But for this event, i can understand ppl asking for a contract reset. Everybody wants to be prepared and should have given enough time before such an even to get and be prepared for it. Switching factions or getting new mechs ready, doesn't matters for me.

Since years PGI's communication before bigger events is just nuts. A day or even hours before something starts they tell us about it.. thats not really professional in my oppinion. And this makes ppl angry, flooding the forums.

And by the way... reddit, twitter and facebook...wtf?!!! The official game forum should be the FIRST place where things has to be announced and communicated...thats just by the way.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 10:52 PM

View Poststealthraccoon, on 04 May 2017 - 03:50 PM, said:

I'm keeping this!



Hey now, some of us play Liao on moral grounds.


I'm a Liao loyalist. :3

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 10:54 PM

Oh nice, so many Cbills and MC to farm with this event. Posted Image

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 10:55 PM

View PostCadoAzazel, on 04 May 2017 - 08:52 PM, said:


Starts Saturday morning for oceania, we were hoping they would move it to start in our friday evening, but they went the other way, Our last day your sunday/monday is a Monday for us, I think Matt is trying out differnt start times. Please go the OTHER way 12 hours earleir than the current start time for this event Matt for the next event


Yeah :/ normally more free Friday nights that Saturdays.

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 11:12 PM

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:


Don't do this to us. PLEASE don't do this to us. We really want to play in this event, but:
Some of us would NEVER play for Liao.
Some of us will ONLY play for Wolf.

We are only Liao for the Cbills currently, ...


Taking responsibility for your decisions is part of growing up. Besides, you HAVE been warned:
„We hope everyone enjoys the Consolation Prize as things return to normal in the Quick Play Queue.
Our next event will target Faction play....
Rally your Units and Lock in your contracts...“

-> https://mwomercs.com...roughness-event

View PostPeiper, on 04 May 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

Thanks for all the hate, guys.

Nah, no hate. Just part of growing up learning that whine does not always get you what you want. Be a man about it and realize that YOU (r unit) have(has) made this decision alone. No one forced you.

Edited by PFC Carsten, 04 May 2017 - 11:21 PM.






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