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[Nightmare1]

cazidin, on 23 May 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

Fortunately, I have the coolest name.

I've been trying to spread word but mostly I've gotten the reaction of "I already know this game because I'm the absolute master of everything". A few people have been receptive and thanked me but don't comment - in THIS thread or any other. What would you recommend to participants? Does my separate thread count or just the likes/comments here?

Lastly. When does the contest end?

I'll "Like" yours if you "Like" mine.

[cazidin]

Nightmare1, on 23 May 2017 - 02:51 PM, said:

I'll "Like" yours if you "Like" mine.

But, I already liked yours. You put a lot of detail and thought into the missile thread.

[Bud Crue]

cazidin, on 23 May 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

Fortunately, I have the coolest name.

I've been trying to spread word but mostly I've gotten the reaction of "I already know this game because I'm the absolute master of everything". A few people have been receptive and thanked me but don't comment - in THIS thread or any other. What would you recommend to participants? Does my separate thread count or just the likes/comments here?

Lastly. When does the contest end?

In my original OP I gave it until the next patch announcement. Given how this has tapered off, I see no reason to go that long other than to allow people who care to try, to attract like/commentary. But yeah, next patch announcement or thereabouts ought to do it. People are already, as you suggest indicating that they know best and are not interested in sharing their wisdom, that the change is either no big deal and don't see what the hubub is about and see no reason to post, are irritated to to point of not caring, or just don't have the time...so I don't expect many more entrants. At least I can give time -and reminders- for those of you who put in the effort to finish the job and get some likes.

[cazidin]

Bud Crue, on 23 May 2017 - 02:56 PM, said:

In my original OP I gave it until the next patch announcement. Given how this has tapered off, I see no reason to go that long other than to allow people who care to try, to attract like/commentary. But yeah, next patch announcement or thereabouts ought to do it. People are already, as you suggest indicating that they know best and are not interested in sharing their wisdom, that the change is either no big deal and don't see what the hubub is about and see no reason to post, are irritated to to point of not caring, or just don't have the time...so I don't expect many more entrants. At least I can give time -and reminders- for those of you who put in the effort to finish the job and get some likes.

Yeah. I meant though - what would you recommend to bring people to the forums and see these guides? I usually just ask if they would like help or to check it out and offer feedback - for new players and veterans alike.

[Nightmare1]

cazidin, on 23 May 2017 - 02:52 PM, said:

But, I already liked yours. You put a lot of detail and thought into the missile thread.

Thanks! I liked a bunch of yours too!


Group hug?

Bud Crue, on 22 May 2017 - 07:23 PM, said:

See the index. Yours has been added under your original entry.

I'm a bit curious how that affects your odds of winning. I've just been editing and updating my OP rather than creating new ones. Does that hurt my chances?

Thanks again for hosting all this! It looks like a lot of work to keep track of it all!

[Bud Crue]

Nightmare1, on 23 May 2017 - 03:11 PM, said:

I'm a bit curious how that affects your odds of winning. I've just been editing and updating my OP rather than creating new ones. Does that hurt my chances?

Beats me. I put the index together in an effort to help folks who were intersted in actually reading the contet you all posted. The order or frequency of a post on that index was not something I considered in terms of the contest...until now...damn it. Oh well.

[cazidin]

Bud Crue, on 23 May 2017 - 03:38 PM, said:

Beats me. I put the index together in an effort to help folks who were intersted in actually reading the contet you all posted. The order or frequency of a post on that index was not something I considered in terms of the contest...until now...damn it. Oh well.

It's easy.

Put mine, Nightmare1s and Mcgral18's guide at the top.

Let the rest be organized... by your kids picking the coolest looking robot or name.

[Nightmare1]

Bud Crue, on 23 May 2017 - 03:38 PM, said:

Beats me. I put the index together in an effort to help folks who were intersted in actually reading the contet you all posted. The order or frequency of a post on that index was not something I considered in terms of the contest...until now...damn it. Oh well.

I'm sorry!

cazidin, on 23 May 2017 - 03:42 PM, said:

It's easy.

Put mine, Nightmare1s and Mcgral18's guide at the top.

Let the rest be organized... by your kids picking the coolest looking robot or name.

[Jay Leon Hart]

cazidin, on 23 May 2017 - 03:42 PM, said:

It's easy.

Put mine, Nightmare1s and Mcgral18's guide at the top.

Let the rest be organized... by your kids picking the coolest looking robot or name.

Let's look at how many likes the top posts have...
Nightmare1 - 15
CadoAzazel - 10
Agent Orange - 9
ScrubLord1 - 9
El Bandito - 8
Mcgral18 - 7
cazidin - 6

OUCH! You're 7th

(I'm somewhere below 9th )

[cazidin]

Jay Leon Hart, on 23 May 2017 - 03:56 PM, said:

Let's look at how many likes the top posts have...
Nightmare1 - 15
CadoAzazel - 10
Agent Orange - 9
ScrubLord1 - 9
El Bandito - 8
Mcgral18 - 7
cazidin - 6

OUCH! You're 7th

(I'm somewhere below 9th )

Actually, you have to count both my post in this thread and my separate thread. Because of it's incredible length I decided to create make my own - with approval from Bud first. Combine the two and tell me what my ranking is? Either way, being in the top 10 is adequate.

Also how many comments they got!

Edited by cazidin, 23 May 2017 - 04:06 PM.

[Jay Leon Hart]

cazidin, on 23 May 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

Actually, you have to count both my post in this thread and my separate thread. Because of it's incredibly length I decided to create make my own - with approval from Bud first. Combine the two and tell me what my ranking is? Either way, being in the top 10 is adequate.

PFFT! Seperate thread, shmeperate shmead!

I really need to clarify what the JB4 "guide" is for and tweek both it and my Basic & Elite post with things garnered from this 'ere thread...

cazidin, on 23 May 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

Also how many comments they got!

01:15 - maybe tomorrow later today!

Edited by Jay Leon Hart, 23 May 2017 - 04:11 PM.

[Nightmare1]

Jay Leon Hart, on 23 May 2017 - 03:56 PM, said:

Let's look at how many likes the top posts have...
Nightmare1 - 15
CadoAzazel - 10
Agent Orange - 9
ScrubLord1 - 9
El Bandito - 8
Mcgral18 - 7
cazidin - 6

OUCH! You're 7th

(I'm somewhere below 9th )

Wow, I didn't realize I was doing that well!

[Aramuside]

Bud Crue, on 23 May 2017 - 02:47 PM, said:

Bumped to remind entrants that they need to start campaigning for likes and commentary. With a couple standouts being the exceptions, it looks like a lot of you only have 3-4 likes and few if any comments. I only budgeted for 10 mech packs so if it comes to a bunch of ties, I will let my kids pick the winners...and the last time they did so based on who had the coolest sounding names. Just FYI.

Contest is still on and new entrants welcome, but still...start getting some likes if you want to win.

Mine wasn't actually an entrant btw just a mech I've been playing around with and adjusting to great effect.

[Bud Crue]

Aramuside, on 24 May 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:

Mine wasn't actually an entrant btw just a mech I've been playing around with and adjusting to great effect.

Alas, you're in.

[Palfatreos]

2 x cLPL, 6 x cERMED Ebon jaguard (10 truedubs,14 heatsink)

EBJ-PRIME(C)

https://kitlaan.gitl...ch%20Operations

Total SP : 96 SP
Free SP : -5 SP
node crossed with red line or circled are candidate to get back down to 91 SP.

Have been playing my fav mech the ebj alot in QP and trying different skill trees. I have decide to just go over 91 SP (96SP) on this build and show people which 5 node are for candidate to sacrefice depending what they prefer more on each tree.

Weapon Tree

Spoiler

-3 range -1 heat gen - 1 cooldown node:
so i mainly wanted to keep laser duration and heat gen for higher dps/burn dps. But after the 3 range there wasnt a way to eliminate anything else on the tree withouth touch heat gen or laser duration.

-3 range -1 Laser duration - 1 cooldown node:
instead heat gen longer burn time.

- 1 laser duration -2 cooldown - 2 range:

A good alternative would be - 3 range and dropping total of 2 node on mobilty tree either anchor turn, speed tweak, torso speed.

Agility Tree

Spoiler

Note: i picked left side because i prefer torso speed for twisting damage, but if you prefer accel/decel/anchor turn more then you can simply mirror the right side of the tree.

-3 speed tweak - 1 torso speed - 1 torso pitch:
If you find the base top speed on ebj more then enough this worth considering dropping

Mech operation

Spoiler

-2 cool run, - 2 quick ignition - 2 improved gyros:
main reason i grabbed mech operation because cool run and ebj has alot heatsink (10 treudubs, 14 heatsink). so even if it deep in the tree i find it worth keeping but if you on different opnion this will give 1 extra node to play with to.

Sensor Tree

Spoiler

I used to compleetly drop sensor tree because it was such big investment to get radar derp, seismic with alot filler nodes. I was fine with no radar derp it change my playstyle abit against heavy lurm enemies and doing more sidepoking instead hillpoking for the high cover.

However having no seismic had a very big impact on reduced situanional awarness and people sneaking on me and since i run a low back armor this ended me getting shot more in the back then usual. I tried to use uav as replacement for seismic but beside that 1 time item + it needed LoS in it radius i felt my situational awarness dropped alot.

-1 seismic - 3 info - 2 sensor : 1 free SP to spend. Personaly i am highly against this since the extra 100m radius give a significant wider area around you. if you dropping 1 i find you might aswel drop the whole thing and invest all SP into something else.

Miscelannous Tree

Spoiler

-1 cosumable, -1 coolshot, -2 coolshot upgrade, - advanced strike: This easy for anybody who doesn't want to rely on consumables.
Persoaly i still prefer to keep the 2 coolshot 18 (actually 27) since i like the option to still be able to shoot in situation the enemy doesnt give you time to dissipate your heat or in dual you will be the with the upper hand on burst damage.

I used to take UAV as replacement for seimic but since i have seismic now i prefer strike over UAV.

There few reason for the preference :
first the first node itself, uav only give longer duration but against any good player they should be shot down very fast unable to use the extra time.
Second the consumables now are mc consumbles availble as cbills. The unupgraded strike now are the same as the old cbill strike with pilot upgrade, while the unupgraded UAV now has the same duration as the old cbill UAV with pilot upgrade but with less range.
So with advanced salvos your strike are even stronger then before or the same if you dont take it.

Edited by Palfatreos, 24 May 2017 - 06:15 AM.

[Beaching Betty]

Nice, I like that one and this

[Bud Crue]

Index updated through #235

[El Bandito]

I added my favorite QP/CW Hellbringer skill tree guide on my first post.

Edited by El Bandito, 25 May 2017 - 10:50 AM.

[Oberost]

After testing a bit more on the testing grounds (I'm not in the mood of playing right now. Maybe after new tech arrives...) I've found that some things on my "guide" are not really useful, so I changed it...

[G4LV4TR0N]

I did some Jump Jet tree testing with full Mobility Executioner. Four Class I Jump Jets and MASC. Didn't measure time, only jump distance. Presented results are not literal and will obviously vary from mech to mech:

1. Full Mobility tree Executioner without any point in Jump Jet tree.

Horizontal jump distance when standing still: 10m (in-game meters)
Horizontal jump distance at full speed: 100m
Horizontal jump distance at full speed with MASC: 130m
(Rear) Horizontal jump distance at full speed: 80m
(Rear) Horizontal jump distance at full speed with MASC: 100m
Vertical jump height when standing still: over 35m

2. Full Mobility tree Executioner with eight points in Jump Jet tree(Heat Shielding 1, Vent Calibration 5, Lift Speed 2):

Horizontal jump distance when standing still: 10m
Horizontal jump distance at full speed: 115m
Horizontal jump distance at full speed with MASC: 150m
(Rear) Horizontal jump distance at full speed: 90m
(Rear) Horizontal jump distance at full speed with MASC: 110m
Vertical jump height when standing still: around 40m

3. Full Mobility tree Executioner with nine points in Jump Jet tree(Heat Shielding 1, Vectoring 5, Lift Speed 3):

Horizontal jump distance when standing still: 40m
Horizontal jump distance at full speed: 105m
Horizontal jump distance at full speed with MASC: 140m
(Rear) Horizontal jump distance at full speed: 80m
(Rear) Horizontal jump distance at full speed with MASC: 105m
Vertical jump height when standing still: below 35m

4. Full Mobility tree Executioner with full Jump Jet tree:

Horizontal jump distance when standing still: 40m
Horizontal jump distance at full speed: 120m
Horizontal jump distance at full speed with MASC: 160m
(Rear) Horizontal jump distance at full speed: 90m
(Rear) Horizontal jump distance at full speed with MASC: 120m
Vertical jump height when standing still: around 40m


Forgot to list vertical jump height values at full speed(+MASC), but in general they were around 110-120% of "standing still" values.

Edited by G4LV4TR0N, 25 May 2017 - 06:14 PM.