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[Captain Polux]

Meh. I may pick up the Nova Cat and wait for the cbill release for the others. Will throw money at the firemoth if it ever comes out lol

[Gyrok]

El Bandito, on 02 June 2017 - 06:55 PM, said:

I said many of those mechs were their most powerful back in 2015 at most. Never said some of them were still not meta. The fact remains that IS did not receive any new meta mech for a long while while the Clans received IIC mechs and NGyr. Your list simply proves that.

All of which are MUCH less powerful now...by the way...

[Glaive-]

Looks like a pretty solid pack for the most part. Overall the artwork is great, Nightstar especially. The Nova Cat's head looks a little funny to me but otherwise looks good. The Osiris' dorsal gun could stand to be longer (bleh stubby laser boxes strike again) and the things lower legs and feet seem a little oversized, but overall it looks mostly on point.
The Arctic Wolf looks pretty sweet, although I fear for it's torso hitboxes.

[El Bandito]

Gyrok, on 02 June 2017 - 08:29 PM, said:

All of which are MUCH less powerful now...by the way...

Much less? My WLR/KDR/matchscore with the MAD-IIC, EBJ, Hellbringer etc have not dropped after skill tree, since all mechs were affected by it. In comparison, mechs you listed such as IS Highlanders, Firestarter, Jenner etc are all but forgotten. And the fact you are even bringing up old IS meta mechs back when Clans weren't even introduced is simply hilarious.

Edited by El Bandito, 02 June 2017 - 08:36 PM.

[Gyrok]

El Bandito, on 02 June 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

Much less? My WLR/KDR/matchscore with the MAD-IIC, EBJ, Hellbringer etc have not dropped after skill tree, since all mechs were affected by it. In comparison, mechs you listed such as IS Highlanders, Firestarter, Jenner etc are all but forgotten. And the fact you are even bringing up old IS meta mechs back when Clans weren't even introduced is simply hilarious.

You said, "IS finally gets a meta mech"

Implying they never had one.

[El Bandito]

Gyrok, on 02 June 2017 - 08:38 PM, said:

You said, "IS finally gets a meta mech"

Implying they never had one.

I meant they are finally getting a meta mech after all this time, but you had to jump on it with your Clan bias.

Edited by El Bandito, 02 June 2017 - 08:49 PM.

[Gyrok]

El Bandito, on 02 June 2017 - 08:44 PM, said:

I meant they are finally getting a meta mech after all this time, but you had to jump on it with your Clan bias.

They had many of the loads of mechs they already had quirked like hell numerous times...

[El Bandito]

Gyrok, on 02 June 2017 - 08:49 PM, said:

They had many of the loads of mechs they already had quirked like hell numerous times...

And where are they now? Aside from BLR-2C (even its energy range quirk was removed), most of the IS mechs had their quirks reduced from 2015-2017, and even as recently as the new skill tree patch. Where is the Firestarter-A? Where is the Thunderbolt-9SE? Quirks are traps that can be easily changed. Meanwhile Arctic Cheetah, and EBJ/Hellbie/Timbie are still here, cause they are not dependent on quirks.

Edited by El Bandito, 02 June 2017 - 09:07 PM.

[Gyrok]

El Bandito, on 02 June 2017 - 09:05 PM, said:

And where are they now? Aside from BLR-2C (even its energy range quirk was removed), most of the IS mechs had their quirks reduced from 2015-2017, and even as recently as the new skill tree patch. Where is the Firestarter-A? Where is the Thunderbolt-9SE? Quirks are traps that can be easily changed. Meanwhile Arctic Cheetah, and EBJ/Hellbie/Timbie are still here, cause they are not dependent on quirks.

They are dependent on quirks...quirky things like base agility, yaw rate, pitch rate, speed...negative quirks...

[Kangarad]

anyone else looking that acw-1 with all its nice missile slots ad thinking about just... filling that with some ATM's? best clan missile boat id say.

Edited by Kangarad, 02 June 2017 - 09:28 PM.

[Y E O N N E]

Kangarad, on 02 June 2017 - 09:28 PM, said:

anyone else looking that acw-1 with all its nice missile slots ad thinking about just... filling that with some ATM's? best clan missile boat id say.

No, because ATMs are too heavy to make use of that many hardpoints on a 40 tonner.

I am thinking about 9x SRM2, though. Move over, Viper, there's a new Best Light in the Game™.

[Battlemaster56]

TAKE ALL MY MONIES PGI!!!!!


Nova Cat, Arctic Wolf, and Osiris Yes please!!!!

Edit: Also Arctic Wolf will be getting both it's Battlemech variants and Omnimech variants such joy!!!!

Edited by Battlemaster56, 02 June 2017 - 10:26 PM.

[HGAK47]

The NSR looks very nice visually. Did someone say its an evolution of the MAD chassis? Its got that sort of profile to it.

[Y E O N N E]

HGAK47, on 02 June 2017 - 10:19 PM, said:

The NSR looks very nice visually. Did someone say its an evolution of the MAD chassis? Its got that sort of profile to it.

It is indeed a member of the Marauder family.

[Gas Guzzler]

Arnold The Governator, on 02 June 2017 - 06:04 PM, said:

Lol, the $20 Nova Cat pack is restricted to the Prime, A and B. The Prime and A are purely laser vomit builds. Build B has a whopping 6 LRM-15's. I feel like this is a bait and switch to get more people to buy the reinforcement packages + the hero with the lack of hard point variety the $20 package offers to people. Maybe not with the civil war era tech so we'll see.

That's the natural order of the variants. Its only if they start messing with the order and doing Prime-C-D in the std with A-B in the reinforcements that they are doing something funky.

I'll pass on the hero, but yes reinforcements are kind of a must have on this one. Oh well.

[InvictusLee]

Navid A1, on 02 June 2017 - 05:49 PM, said:

"Have mercy..." - my wallet

Precisely what mine said...

[Trenchbird]

For the love of god, people, STOP FEEDING GYROK. I'd rather not see this thread dive into a crying tailspin.

[chucklesMuch]

Oh bloody hell too many mechs that I want!

Please give me reasons why the amazing looking escalation mechs are actually rubbish and I shouldn't want to buy them... the nightstar and Osiris especially...

Edited by chucklesMuch, 03 June 2017 - 12:54 AM.

[kapusta11]

FupDup, on 02 June 2017 - 05:56 PM, said:

I just noticed on the Arctic Wolf page...three variants have listed locked equipment (ACW-Prime/A/P) and three don't (ACW-1/2/BK). This means that the ACW will be the first (and only?) mech in MWO that has both Omnimech AND Battlemech variants of itself.

Of course, the BM versions will likely be better because of the added customization such as adding FF and getting engines rated over 250 (Omnimech is stuck at 240)...

ACW BMs don't have JJs or ECM, Omni variants have both so XL240, 3 JJs, ECM, 4x ASRM6 + 5t ammo and 2 Flamers.

[Battlemaster56]

kapusta11, on 03 June 2017 - 02:01 AM, said:

ACW BMs don't have JJs or ECM, Omni variants have both so XL240, 3 JJs, ECM, 4x ASRM6 + 5t ammo and 2 Flamers.

True it be a weird hero that's mostly a laser boat (Meh), but the better options are the Battlemech, since they can bring more firepower without sacrificing space for JJ's since either you go laser vomit, 2 spl's with 4 srm6's with ecm, or 4 srm6's with ecm and JJ's. Still playing around with some build Ideas.

Edited by Battlemaster56, 03 June 2017 - 02:08 AM.