60 replies to this topic

[Xetelian]

Take them here:
https://twitter.com/Chris_C_Lowrey

I bet it wont amount to much but they say the squeaky wheel gets the grease.







I doubt the dozen threads about it are really going to change anything and it seems like a good time to test the new balance guy's twitter out.

[El Bandito]

I'll PM the guy and lend him my flame shield. It is battle tested.

Edited by El Bandito, 18 June 2017 - 03:34 AM.

[PhoenixFire55]

He is just a tool. Might as well talk to a chair you are sitting on.

[Vellron2005]

Everybody going bananas over the laser nerfs needs to remember - heavy lasers are coming.. they have to put them somewhere in the middle..

They are supposed to do more damage for more heat, so a SPL used to do 6 damage, not Heavy Small Laser will do 6 damage.. but for more heat..

[Xetelian]

Vellron2005, on 19 June 2017 - 01:00 AM, said:

Everybody going bananas over the laser nerfs needs to remember - heavy lasers are coming.. they have to put them somewhere in the middle..

They are supposed to do more damage for more heat, so a SPL used to do 6 damage, not Heavy Small Laser will do 6 damage.. but for more heat..

When have we ever kept the TT values of damage on lasers?

[cazidin]

PhoenixFire55, on 19 June 2017 - 12:17 AM, said:

He is just a tool. Might as well talk to a chair you are sitting on.

I really don't think that's fair to the man. I don't agree with the recent changes but he seems like a nice guy. For whatever reason, PGI has made their Marketing Executive put in charge of balance. He went on record saying that he doesn't play much, if at all, had zero input before, and just handled the mechpack sales.

[B0oN]

Soooooo, lemme get that straight :
We haven´t played with the new laser values, but the complaining starts already, yes ?

Sounds legit ...













... totally not .

[cazidin]

The Shortbus, on 19 June 2017 - 07:39 AM, said:

Soooooo, lemme get that straight :
We haven´t played with the new laser values, but the complaining starts already, yes ?

Sounds legit ...













... totally not .

From experience we can say that a lot of these changes seem bad. You're right that we haven't played with them yet, but it's very probably true that they're close to as bad as we imagine.

[PhoenixFire55]

cazidin, on 19 June 2017 - 07:36 AM, said:

He went on record saying that he doesn't play much, if at all ...

Hence what I've said about being a tool. Or do you mean to tell me that a guy with zero played matches during last couple months is actually doing the balance decisions? ... lol

[Chris Lowrey]

There really is no reason to spam my Twitter feed unless you want to. I read the forums as well, and have been taking notes on all the feedback from the weekend.

We'll see how predictions stack up to reality once the patch drops and if anything isn't working out the way we want them to they will be iterated upon in future patches.

[cazidin]

PhoenixFire55, on 19 June 2017 - 07:47 AM, said:

Hence what I've said about being a tool. Or do you mean to tell me that a guy with zero played matches during last couple months is actually doing the balance decisions? ... lol

Ah, perhaps I misunderstood. I thought more of the tool as an insult, rather than a tool of PGI to use and throw away.

[Mister Glitchdragon]

The Shortbus, on 19 June 2017 - 07:39 AM, said:

Soooooo, lemme get that straight :
We haven´t played with the new laser values, but the complaining starts already, yes ?

Sounds legit ...













... totally not .

Many people's favorite go-to toys have been reduced considerably. They are upset. This is part of the MW:O forums/balance process: We move from one dramatic dumpster-fire of QQ (Skill Tree/ Engine Decoupling was before this) to the next (July patch notes are going to drive these forums off the leash, watch!).

I'm not immune; my MAD IIC is taking a hit. Still, I find it's more fun to watch than to join in.

Edited for grammar

Edited by Mister Glitchdragon, 19 June 2017 - 07:57 AM.

[cazidin]

Chris Lowrey, on 19 June 2017 - 07:54 AM, said:

There really is no reason to spam my Twitter feed unless you want to. I read the forums as well, and have been taking notes on all the feedback from the weekend.

We'll see how predictions stack up to reality once the patch drops and if anything isn't working out the way we want them to they will be iterated upon in future patches.

Hey, Chris, can I ask you a few questions while you're here?

First. I understand that you can't share your data with us but... could you maybe elaborate on why the IS Large Laser and C-ER Med were nerfed? Those seem like outliers to me, the former having been rather mediocre™ from experience and the latter... OK being good but more of a good kind of average.

Second. Are you and Paul working together, or are you the Balance Guy now? Honestly, you seem like a nice guy. I don't want you to get "thrown under the bus" should things go awry.

Third. How're you doing?

Fourth. Expect Twitter Spam. I'm sorry, but, this comes with the job. I just hope that it's not too severe or hateful, because I like having more open communication with PGI's staff.

Edited by cazidin, 19 June 2017 - 07:59 AM.

[Felicitatem Parco]

Chris Lowrey, on 19 June 2017 - 07:54 AM, said:

There really is no reason to spam my Twitter feed unless you want to. I read the forums as well, and have been taking notes on all the feedback from the weekend.

We'll see how predictions stack up to reality once the patch drops and if anything isn't working out the way we want them to they will be iterated upon in future patches.

But what if it wasn't just pure salty mishmash... Like low-sodium Spam? Would that still be okay?

[Greyhart]

Chris Lowrey, on 19 June 2017 - 07:54 AM, said:

There really is no reason to spam my Twitter feed unless you want to. I read the forums as well, and have been taking notes on all the feedback from the weekend.

We'll see how predictions stack up to reality once the patch drops and if anything isn't working out the way we want them to they will be iterated upon in future patches.

logged in just to like this.

Any change is going to cause complaining.

Except of course implementing a cone of fire and heat penalties . No one would complain about them would they. Nope never a word said against them, universally loved and adored

Edited by Greyhart, 19 June 2017 - 07:58 AM.

[Cementi]

Chris Lowrey, on 19 June 2017 - 07:54 AM, said:

There really is no reason to spam my Twitter feed unless you want to. I read the forums as well, and have been taking notes on all the feedback from the weekend.

We'll see how predictions stack up to reality once the patch drops and if anything isn't working out the way we want them to they will be iterated upon in future patches.

This sadly too many people here have been rewarded by crying so we get this silly crap every time something is adjusted. Nerfs are part of gaming. Constant power creep is not healthy and eventually stuff has to be dialed back. If its too much then they can dial it back up but honestly CSPL's doing twice their table top damage value was stupid.

[Chris Lowrey]

cazidin, on 19 June 2017 - 07:56 AM, said:

Hey, Chris, can I ask you a few questions while you're here?

You guys can ask, but I can't guarantee that I will get around to answering. Kinda have a lot on my plate already for the next few days.

Best venue to ask questions at this time would either be when I'm streaming a bit of the new Patch with NGNG or with the upcoming Townhall that Russ might bring me into. Even if I'm not in the townhall, I should still be in chat and can answer questions then.

Until then though I can't guarantee much. Have to focus on getting other stuff done right now.

[Cementi]

Greyhart, on 19 June 2017 - 07:58 AM, said:

logged in just to like this.

Any change is going to cause complaining.

Except of course implementing a cone of fire and heat penalties . No one would complain about them would they. Nope never a word said against them, universally loved and adored

I would take a day off work to read the forums on the day they make that announcement. It would be glorious.

[R Valentine]

The lack of buffs to things like small lasers and IS ERPPCs bothers me more than any of the nerfs. They didn't touch weapons no one uses.

[Cementi]

Chris Lowrey, on 19 June 2017 - 08:01 AM, said:

You guys can ask, but I can't guarantee that I will get around to answering. Kinda have a lot on my plate already for the next few days.

Best venue to ask questions at this time would either be when I'm streaming a bit of the new Patch with NGNG or with the upcoming Townhall that Russ might bring me into. Even if I'm not in the townhall, I should still be in chat and can answer questions then.

Until then though I can't guarantee much. Have to focus on getting other stuff done right now.

Just good to see your here reading stuff. Can't be easy so thanks for that.