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#221 stillnight

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 10:11 AM

HG has been sitting on Robotech for 30+ years and they haven't done a damn thing with it. Unfortunate though, I have have Robotech: Battlecry one of my favorite Playstation 2 games from my childhood. Instead of them fighting legal battles(which most of them are complete nonsense if you ask me)they should be working on rebooting the Robotech games since I know there are a ton of fans out there that would drool over a reboot for the modern platforms.

#222 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 10:12 AM

View PostApnu, on 25 July 2017 - 09:44 AM, said:

I've seen a lot of posting of the goofy comparisons (like the Locust and the Officer Battle Pod), but what of the others on earlier pages?

Here are the comparisons from pages 10, 11, and 12.

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I find it very suspicious they cut off the Phoenix Hawk's arm.

And for review, here are laughable comparisons on pages 13 and 14.


Is it just me, or is the Warhammer concept seems to be... Stretched vertically? I can only assume to resemble the proportions of the "original" more.
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#223 Metus regem

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 10:20 AM

View Poststillnight, on 25 July 2017 - 10:11 AM, said:

HG has been sitting on Robotech for 30+ years and they haven't done a damn thing with it. Unfortunate though, I have have Robotech: Battlecry one of my favorite Playstation 2 games from my childhood. Instead of them fighting legal battles(which most of them are complete nonsense if you ask me)they should be working on rebooting the Robotech games since I know there are a ton of fans out there that would drool over a reboot for the modern platforms.



Not just that, I would love to see a more modern take on it, like some of the later Macross entries....

#224 SMDMadCow

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 10:54 AM

View PostNeonKnight, on 25 July 2017 - 10:04 AM, said:

When are folks going to look at this document:

https://www.unitedst...42820/38-0.html

Page 20+ items 30+ are all aimed at Catalyst Game Labs, the maker of the Tabletop version.

This is more than just an attack against MWO and the HBS Battletech game, but an all out attack against all things battletech.


Looks like HB's answer to the complaint, states as defense: Plaintiffs copyright is invalid.

#225 Will9761

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:11 AM

If PGI released any more of the Unseen mechpacks, I would buy them just to spite those Hapless Goons. What's next, they are going to compare the Catapult to a Phalanx? Yeah rightPosted Image .

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:19 AM

View PostWill9761, on 25 July 2017 - 11:11 AM, said:

If PGI released any more of the Unseen mechpacks, I would buy them just to spite those Hapless Goons. What's next, they are going to compare the Catapult to a Phalanx? Yeah rightPosted Image .

I'm reaaaally hoping that once PGI/HBS/CGL kick HG back under the rock they crawled out of, they release like a celebratory pack containing the rest of the Unseens.

#227 Metus regem

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:25 AM

View PostSMDMadCow, on 25 July 2017 - 10:54 AM, said:

Looks like HB's answer to the complaint, states as defense: Plaintiffs copyright is invalid.



Oh snap!

Page 29, line 22 thru 27:

"6. Plaintiff’s claims are barred, in whole or in part, because Plaintiff does not own

some or all of the works of authorship that form the subject of the claims for relief.

7. Plaintiff’s claims are barred, in whole or in part, because some or all of the

works of authorship that form the subject of the claims for relief are not original to Plaintiff

and, therefore, Plaintiff lacks standing to pursue these claims.."

Well that is a F-U for HG, as well as pointing out that they never had the rights in the first place.

#228 ScrapIron Prime

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:27 AM

"39. Defendants’ actions have irreparably damaged and, unless enjoined, will continue to irreparably damage Harmony Gold."

Player Response: Harmony Gold has, by it's own actions, displayed plainly that it has the moral fortitude of a Bag of D***s, and by it's own actions have irreparably damaged themselves and any product lines they may be attempting to foist upon the gaming community. Please crawl back under your rock.

PS - My sig file presently contains an image from Macross... not Robotech... that you do not have rights to. I won't even give you that, HG. Go away.

Edited by ScrapIron Prime, 25 July 2017 - 11:29 AM.


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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:34 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 25 July 2017 - 11:19 AM, said:

I'm reaaaally hoping that once PGI/HBS/CGL kick HG back under the rock they crawled out of, they release like a celebratory pack containing the rest of the Unseens.


I'd put up $160 for a "Independence for Battletech" mech pack consisting of the Stinger/Valkyrie/Crusader/Longbow. Great Idea Juodas!

#230 Juodas Varnas

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:37 AM

View PostMarauder3D, on 25 July 2017 - 11:34 AM, said:


I'd put up $160 for a "Independence for Battletech" mech pack consisting of the Stinger/Valkyrie/Crusader/Longbow. Great Idea Juodas!

Throw in a Scorpion/Goliath in there and you've got yourself a deal! Posted Image

#231 Vortex013

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:46 AM

The Macross franchise failed to deliver and now they try to steal something from the our community? Acually it feels more like piracy from their side. Whatever goes into this law suit will be actually not invested into MWO... sad.

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:49 AM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 25 July 2017 - 11:37 AM, said:

Throw in a Scorpion/Goliath in there and you've got yourself a deal! Posted Image


Scorpion would fit even better than the Valkyrie, since we just added the Javelin, a Jumpy 30 ton missile mech. I'm down on the Scorpion, you just need to convince Mr. Nay-sayer Russ Bullock.

Can Cry-Engine do quads? I remember back in MW;LL they said the engine couldn't run quads. If they could, I'd welcome the Scorpion!

#233 ScrapIron Prime

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:50 AM

View PostVortex013, on 25 July 2017 - 11:46 AM, said:

The Macross franchise failed to deliver and now they try to steal something from the our community? Acually it feels more like piracy from their side. Whatever goes into this law suit will be actually not invested into MWO... sad.

They're mad because the Robotech Miniatures game they kickstartered the other year FLOPPED. Only the backers had any interest at all, the game was dead on release. And yeah, the minis are being used to play Battletech, so Harmony Gold felt it was time to rage against their archenemy Jordan once again.

#234 GrimRiver

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:54 AM

I thought HG only has the rights to distribute Macross and Robotech but no rights to the design of the mechs themselves?

Besides they've been sitting on those copyrights for many years while doing nothing with it, can that be used against HG for patent/copyright trolling?

#235 Lupis Volk

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:54 AM

Wow HBS released the burn. Still i myself would buy a big FU mech pack PGI.

#236 Metus regem

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:56 AM

View PostGrimRiver, on 25 July 2017 - 11:54 AM, said:

I thought HG only has the rights to distribute Macross and Robotech but no rights to the design of the mechs themselves?

Besides they've been sitting on those copyrights for many years while doing nothing with it, can that be used against HG for patent/copyright trolling?



HG got the video rights from a company that never actually had them in the first place (thanks to a recent ruling in Japan, where Macross comes from), so that makes HG's claims null and void.... if anything they might be able to be sued for unlawful use of the IP and it's rights....

#237 ScrapIron Prime

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 11:59 AM

View PostGrimRiver, on 25 July 2017 - 11:54 AM, said:

Besides they've been sitting on those copyrights for many years while doing nothing with it, can that be used against HG for patent/copyright trolling?

They kickstartered a Robotech miniatures game the other year. It flopped hardcore, dead on arrival. And HG is smoking mad that the minis they produced for the kickstarter are being used to play... Battletech. Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image

Edited by ScrapIron Prime, 25 July 2017 - 12:00 PM.


#238 C E Dwyer

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 12:13 PM

View PostJuodas Varnas, on 25 July 2017 - 10:12 AM, said:

Is it just me, or is the Warhammer concept seems to be... Stretched vertically? I can only assume to resemble the proportions of the "original" more.
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Yes they've stretched the picture

#239 Frankdark

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 12:16 PM

View PostVortex013, on 25 July 2017 - 11:46 AM, said:

The Macross franchise failed to deliver and now they try to steal something from the our community? Acually it feels more like piracy from their side. Whatever goes into this law suit will be actually not invested into MWO... sad.

Marcoss preformes great in Asia.
But Harmony Gold blocks it for Western Market so that´s why you not hear and get much.

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 12:17 PM

View PostCathy, on 25 July 2017 - 12:13 PM, said:

Yes they've stretched the picture


Anyone surprised HG is falsifying evidence? Anyone?





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