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[Mechwarrior1441491]

First man to cut or rip from the other mans beard, wins.

[Will9761]

I found a video on why people should not support Harmony Gold:

[Yellonet]

There's already a thread on this.

[Mechwarrior1441491]

Maybe Hg is also sick of not seeing new maps or content in MWO.

[Chiasson Brinker]

The thing of it is that the offending mechs listed by name in this suit are the Locust, Shadowhawk and Atlas. WTF?

[Akillius]

Yes it looks like HG is up to old tricks of trying to scare other companies into giving them free cash again.

Khobai, on 23 July 2017 - 01:02 PM, said:

maybe but in the screwed up american legal system theres no penalty for frivolously suing and losing. especially if you have the cash to throw at a lawyer and the other guy doesnt.

in other countries if you lose a lawsuit you have to pay the legal costs of the person who won the lawsuit

that prevents frivolous lawsuits

There is an obscure law called Vexatious Litigation and it's in California at least... um where is HG's HQ located again?
https://en.wikipedia...n#United_States
If found guilty of this just 1 time then good luck using any law system again.


That suit carelessly says they own the rights etc. but it should say "Exclusive license" and it mentions the 1995 case...
However that was the case where both FASA and HG rights were found to be non-existent. This left HG only with the televised and video rights. This new lawsuit does not mention Revell as the real owner of the rights to the toys/images/etc. Nor does it mention the agreement HG had with Revell.
I was under the impression that original 1970's agreement between Revell and HG was only good for a couple decades.
Wonder if Hobbico (current owner of Revell) sold those rights to HG, or extended them?

[TheArisen]

Sheesh they just don't know when to leave it alone...

[TheMundaneYesYes]

I really hope PGI and harebrained pushes them on this, they can not just sit and sue everyone all the time.

[Akillius]

This topic was already being discussed before hand.
But that topic title isn't very descriptive...
https://mwomercs.com...the-story-here/

[Darkhorse13Golf]

The Mechs were redesigned to make Harmony Gold happy. This is disgusting and they are obvious vultures.

[Andi Nagasia]

JC Daxion, on 23 July 2017 - 02:05 PM, said:

Doesn't number two look almost exactly like the F-18? Maybe US military should sue them.... they could use some cash i'm sure!

http://www.gettyimag...a%2018%20hornet

Nope,

F14 Tomcat,

the Aircraft was designed with a (Variable-Sweep Wing System) that would allow Ether Speed or Mobility,
this could be changed in flight, to impart the benefits the Pilot may need in action or combat,

this is the RoboTech Fighter,


and this is the Hasbro transformer,


Clearly both are Based on the real Life F-14 Tomcat,

so Clearly Grumman, should be Suing Harmany Gold for using its AirCraft,
as the (Grumman F-14 Tomcat) flew 1970, where as the First episode of (Robotech) came too in 1985,

[Mystere]

Arnold The Governator, on 23 July 2017 - 12:44 PM, said:

They better not harass PGI about my pet mech or else....



Seriously, Canada needs to legalize dueling again so that whoever is behind these mindless quick money lawsuit schemes can get glove slapped.

I really miss the old days:



Things were acted on much more decisively back then.

[Spr1ggan]

Promessa, on 23 July 2017 - 01:54 PM, said:

They do, it's backed by Sony, but they can't seem to keep a director and they don't have a script. Hopefully that fails..

Maybe Sony have given up on it. Rumours are they're looking to do a Starship Troopers movie that's faithful to the book, with the power armour and all that.

[Chados]

Well, okay then. I'll lock this if mod tools allow it. Forgive me for posting on a topic that clearly wasn't obviously shared, that we all have an interest in. e-e

Nope. All I can do is delete. Mods, please lock this topic as repetitive.

Edited by Chados, 23 July 2017 - 04:45 PM.

[Wintersdark]

Luminis, on 23 July 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

I'm no expert in Copyright Laws or anything, but I think there's something about losing one's copyright claims due to inaction. Might just be a token case for Harmony Gold to not lose claims due to remaining inactive for too long, so they can potentially keep up further lawsuits in the future.

But I only skimmed some articles on that matter, so that might be a completely false notion...

You don't lose copyright.


You're thinking about trademarks ("Xerox" "Kleenex" etc). If you don't defend your trademarks you lose exclusive use of them. You retail copyright regardless.

[Tarl Cabot]

Nope, they should combine the two but using your subject line!!!

[Andi Nagasia]

Mod here, Delete or Merge?

[Kokurokoki]

lol so Harmony Gold is suing PGI to fund their robofail movie?

I'm laughing so hard now.

But seriously, as a Macross and Battletech fan, **** Harmony Gold. They issued a cease and desist order to a Brazilian director that was working on a Macross fan-film that he was gonna release to the world for free. Yeah. They are ******* scumbags and I hope PGI punches them in the face (legally) like our Atlas's should be able to do in the game to other mechs.

[Wintersdark]

CK16, on 23 July 2017 - 02:54 PM, said:

Can PGI,HBS, & CGL counter sue for harassment......'Intent to threaten, intimated, annoy, and alarm"

No.

Aggravated Assault Mech, on 23 July 2017 - 03:37 PM, said:

It indicates that Harmony Gold is probably aware of the dubiousness of their claim on Macross designs and isn't confident of their chances in court. After all, Hasbro continued to produce and sell the offending design- what claim does Harmony Gold really have if that's the case?.

HBS/CGL/PGI probably won't "use" anything because the case will probably end up the same- dismissed or discreetly settled out of court. The risk of going to court is far, far greater to Harmony Gold than it is to Weisman and friends.

This. I figure HG is just trying for scare tactics/hoping to score an easy settlement, and while you don't lose copyright for failing to.defend it, failure to defend it does hurt you in unclear cases, as victory in IP cases like this is almost entirely based on opinion vs. hard rule of law.

If HG actually goes to court and loses, then that would build precedent that could be used in later cases - they'd lose the last tiny bit of ground to stand on.

[Chados]

Merge it, my man. Merge it!