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[ingramli]

With the desync of engine, it now twist its torso like an 75` old man, and left with a oversize engine which take away the available tonnage, i guess it is time to switch to something else, perhaps a night gyr?

[Khobai]

the timberwolf era has been over for a while

[ingramli]

Khobai, on 18 May 2017 - 03:46 AM, said:

the timberwolf era has been over for a while

sure it has been nerfed for serval times, but this one is different, it is more than enough to kill it and officially dead

Edited by ingramli, 18 May 2017 - 03:49 AM.

[Khobai]

pretty much all clan mechs pilot like garbage trucks now though

[Mystere]

A game in which a Timberwolf is as agile as molasses is not "A BattleTech Game". <SHRUGS>

Edited by Mystere, 18 May 2017 - 06:22 AM.

[The6thMessenger]

Honestly, i can still run TBR just fine. The turn nerfed it's brawl potential though.

[Battlemaster56]

ingramli, on 18 May 2017 - 03:44 AM, said:

With the desync of engine, it now twist its torso like an 75` old man, and left with a oversize engine which take away the available tonnage, i guess it is time to switch to something else, perhaps a night gyr?

Khobai, on 18 May 2017 - 03:46 AM, said:

the timberwolf era has been over for a while

FOOLS!!!! The era of the Timberwolf is never over, you just been simply deceived...



But no seriously the Timberwolf is still top tier viable in this game, just because the night gyr is good in one or two niche picks doesn't mean the wolf is dead just theirs mechs that fill only a certain role that can easily be forgotten in the near future, when a new meta appears.
FOOLS!!!! The era of the Timberwolf is never over, you just been simply deceived

The6thMessenger, on 18 May 2017 - 03:54 AM, said:

Honestly, i can still run TBR just fine. The turn nerfed it's brawl potential though.

I just focus mainly on the agility aspect to regain some of it's former agility help it out alot.

[Lily from animove]

it still has proper speed and good loadouds possible, why should it suddenly be dead or it's era over? It's no mech with a real disadvantage, thats why it never will be bad at all.

[JohnnyWayne]

It rather feels like that all the agility skills are not working. I fully skilled that tree and pretty much nothing changed. Not to forget the bugged champion timberwolf.

PGI please get your **** together and fix this. When I go full agile I expect at least the same agility as before.

Lily from animove, on 18 May 2017 - 03:58 AM, said:

it still has proper speed and good loadouds possible, why should it suddenly be dead or it's era over? It's no mech with a real disadvantage, thats why it never will be bad at all.

Piloting it feels like piloting a brick. Thats a huge disadvantage from my point of view. The NIght Gyr is now more than ever clearly the better 75 ton mech.

Edited by JohnnyWayne, 18 May 2017 - 04:01 AM.

[Nesutizale]

People allways yell if their OP XYZ isn't OP anymore. Saw it in many games. Don't bother with it.

[ingramli]

The real problem is it is unable to get rid of its oversized useless xl375 now, it really hurts

[Khobai]

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People allways yell if their OP XYZ isn't OP anymore. Saw it in many games. Don't bother with it.

engine decoupling was supposed to give mechs agility based on their tonnage rather than engine size

specifically so mechs couldnt take bigger engines to get more agility.

it wasnt supposed to be used as a tool for balancing Clans vs IS. i dunno how the timberwolf ended up being one of the least agile 75 tonners lol

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it still has proper speed and good loadouds possible, why should it suddenly be dead or it's era over? It's no mech with a real disadvantage, thats why it never will be bad at all.

except piloting like a garbage truck and having a locked 375 engine IS a real disadvantage

you might as well just play night gyr now, it pilots like a garbage truck too, but at least it doesnt have an oversized engine and it gets magic heatsinks

Edited by Khobai, 18 May 2017 - 04:14 AM.

[occusoj]

Nesutizale, on 18 May 2017 - 04:03 AM, said:

People allways yell if their OP XYZ isn't OP anymore. Saw it in many games. Don't bother with it.

The days when Timby was significantly OP are long gone.
Without doubt it was a strong mech but not OVERpowered, there was no reason for the nerfs it got.

Btw. I played mostly IS until the last patch, TBR isn't and wasn't my "OP XYZ".

[ingramli]

Khobai, on 18 May 2017 - 04:07 AM, said:

engine decoupling was supposed to give mechs agility based on their tonnage rather than engine size

specifically so mechs couldnt take bigger engines to get more agility.

it wasnt supposed to be used as a tool for balancing Clans vs IS. i dunno how the timberwolf ended up being one of the least agile 75 tonners lol

it is not the least agile 75 tonner, but it lost too much free tonnage for too little benefit in return, it is hard to compete with other 75 tonners for fire power now, and it is not agile enough to play other roles that require mobility either....

Edited by ingramli, 18 May 2017 - 04:19 AM.

[Paigan]

Lily from animove, on 18 May 2017 - 03:58 AM, said:

it still has proper speed and good loadouds possible, why should it suddenly be dead or it's era over? It's no mech with a real disadvantage, thats why it never will be bad at all.

- It is filled with locked equipment.
- It has only low hardpoints except for the A-LT which begs desperately to get focussed off first to basically castrate the Mech by destroying one easy-to-hit component.

Compare a MADIIC:
Only slightly slower and still pretty agile (yes, even with the new skill tree. Learn2skilltree, Khobai)
More HP, better hitboxes
Better and higher hardpoints
Even an ECM variant.

The TBR isn't the "TimberGod", anymore, for some time now.
Even the EXE (with decent MASC usage skill) was something like a TBR with the armor of a 95tonner.
At the latest, the release of the MADIIC killed it.

And now it's left with tons of locked equipment and not even an awesome agility any more.

If they don't REALLY differentiate Mechs by huge sets of individual positive AND negative quirks to actually give them a role and a unqiue stats-"character", newer Mechs will always either deprecate most of the older ones or just be new looks of something that is already there.
It's a self-deprecating business model.

Edited by Paigan, 18 May 2017 - 04:24 AM.

[Khobai]

im a big fan of giving omnimechs universal hardpoints

the worse omnimechs could have more universal hardpoints

an agility buff combined with universal hardpoints might help fix the timberwolf I dunno

[Knighthawk26]

Yep, TBR's were my goto mechs for a long time. I still posted a match with 900 damage in one yesterday, but had more meh matches than good ones. The TBR's ability to hit and run, and brawl is limited now, and the lower hardpoints make it less viable for other roles. Since the patch all mechs run hotter in general and that also affected the Timberwolf builds more than some others.

[The6thMessenger]

Knighthawk26, on 18 May 2017 - 04:46 AM, said:

Yep, TBR's were my goto mechs for a long time. I still posted a match with 900 damage in one yesterday, but had more meh matches than good ones. The TBR's ability to hit and run, and brawl is limited now, and the lower hardpoints make it less viable for other roles. Since the patch all mechs run hotter in general and that also affected the Timberwolf builds more than some others.

True. Once i ditched that brawling build from my TBR, into Gauss-PPC, I'm having OK games again.

Khobai, on 18 May 2017 - 04:23 AM, said:

im a big fan of giving omnimechs universal hardpoints

the worse omnimechs could have more universal hardpoints

an agility buff combined with universal hardpoints might help fix the timberwolf I dunno

I'm still waiting for that 1M on the Warrant's CT.

[Sleepyboy14]

I wouldn't say the Timberwolf era is over, because much like other mechs they had moment in the spotlight then burn out and still get used or faded away. As for the Timberwolf, I think it's gonna live on and still get used.

[627]

Let's count the numbers how many victors and how many timbies you see in a match on average and then we can talk about that again.