Catten Hart, on 11 November 2017 - 12:46 AM, said:
D'awwww, that's cute.
No, your information is biased and incorrect. You're assuming I don't like C-SPLs because they were something that annihilated me regularly, and I never said that. In fact, even in their prime, I only really got even hit by SPL users in either Arctic Cheetahs in QP or SPL+MG Novas in Scouting.
The problem was that the weapon was so blatantly overpowered *Compared to the competition in the same weapon bracket* and yet people willfully ignore that now, saying it's too weak. So let's do some number crunching, because obviously, this bat needs to be swung until the horse is a red mist.
Boating six Clan SPLs, pre-nerf, did a whopping 36 damage in a concentrated salvo. While I can no longer remember the refire rate, I do know it was quite low for having that much damage.
Compared to the IS SPL then and now, that is an 'incredible' 18 damage difference.
Here, I'll put it into something my 6-year-old Nephew could probably understand.
36
-18
18
Double the damage. That's one more point per laser than IS Standard Medium Laser damage, as well, which I will display with another helpful, 6-year-old compliant equation.
36
-30
6
So, in this amazingly simple summary;
6 tons of Clan pre-nerf SPLs does 36 damage, 6 tons of IS SPLs does 18 damage, and 6 tons of IS Medium Lasers does 30 damage. Unless you are completely unable to understand math in any way, shape or form, that is an incredibly blatant imbalance that was a complete necessity to patch.
EDIT; As for the whole '5' damage thing, no. Stop trying to buff anything on the Clan side sheerly for the sake of buffing it so it completely outdoes IS tech. We don't need a Small Pulse Laser doing the same damage in a shorter duration at a similar-but-slightly-shorter range compared the IS standard Medium Laser. It's unnecessary. 4 damage at better range leaves it superior to the IS SPL but only slightly worse damage per shot than the IS Medium Laser (And a better choice at times due to faster refire and lower heat), which is exactly where it should be.
Alright. First off, what the...?
Are you just thinking up some numbers and think that's okay?
C-SPL weren't OP compared to other weapons, they were simply OP. End of story. They made chassie like the stormcrow and nova with a bunch of hardpoints simply to strong in brawl.
Now you're trolling if you take them, they simply don't do enough damage for the heat they produce, while also having no range. It's a DPS weapon that's not able to deal DPS. (Same as the IS-MPL, but that's another story.)
So, they were OP. Now it's UP. Why not balance it so people can use it? It really seems like you just got some hate on the SPL.
And since you didn't wanna put in mwo clan laser patchnotes in google, I did that for you.
Old C-SPL had 6 dmg, 3 heat, cd 2.25 + duration 0.75
now it has 4 dmg, 2.4 heat, cd 1.9 + duration 0.6
So, the HPS was 1, now it's 0.96. All while dealing 50% less dmg.
The heat to damage ratio just randomly flew out of the window.
They either have to increase the dmg to 5, or decrease the produced heat to make it bearable to even carry the weapon.
Now unto your so easy equation that's simply wrong.
IS-SPL did 4 dmg and now deal 3.5 dmg.
If you want to go with "I'm so smart and you're so dumb" how bout going with facts instead of stuff you think is right?
It's all listed in smurfys.
That's either 24 or 21 dmg with 6 IS-SPL.
Nothing of your "but it does double dmg it's OP".
The IS-SPL is simply UP (just like the C-SPL now is) but it has lower heat and duration going for it. It's not the same weapon system. They play differently.
Catten Hart, on 11 November 2017 - 12:46 AM, said:
4 damage at better range leaves it superior to the IS SPL but only slightly worse damage per shot than the IS Medium Laser (And a better choice at times due to faster refire and lower heat), which is exactly where it should be.
You know the funny thing bout what you're saying here?
Clans don't have IS medium lasers.
They can't simply take an alternative.
They have no other weapon to take when going into brawl.
Small and small pulse simply can't contest anything. The heat is way to high for the damage they deal. The only possiblity is to take C-MPL.
Seems like you want weapons that have more range to also be able to fight equally with weapons with short range.
A medium laser has a range of 270 (without 10% energy range quirk the IS has) and the C-SPL has 165 meters range and you want the medium laser to be as strong as, if not, stronger than the SPL in a direct showdown.
I hope everyone sees the irony here.
Edited by Bonzai VI, 11 November 2017 - 09:27 AM.
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PGI you really deserve butt kick ...
