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#41 Wolfways

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:54 PM

View PostOmniFail, on 13 December 2017 - 06:17 PM, said:


There are a few guys out there who are all about keeping locks, narcing, and tagging.

I'm one of them when I play my Raven. Unfortunately whenever I do play it there is always a lack of LRM's on my team Posted Image

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:58 PM

View PostXetelian, on 13 December 2017 - 06:53 PM, said:

One of those things where if I was paid a nickle every time I saw an LRM assault mech I'd have $500.


1. Most of them don't keep up with the nascar and die early and immediately disconnect
2. The maps with less nascar they hide in the back and are the last to die after the team gets overwhelmed


I have seen a DWF S with two LRM20s and one LRM10 and 2000+ ammo
I have a screen shot of an aLRM10 + aLRM15 and 2 ERLL AS7 DDC
I also have a screen shot of a three LRM15 KGC 0000


100 ton mechs have 100 CT armor that could be used to benefit the team but I always see this builds after 11 people have died and we're spectating the one that hid in the back the whole time and did very little damage.






I don't care if you do 1000 damage in your LRM 100 tonner, even if you did 83 damage to 12 people, you would be of more use if you were taking damage.

A HBK has without quirks over 126 armor combined between 2 ST and the CT, so you're not even cracking the armor of a 50 ton mech when you do 83 spread damage to it and that isn't counting the arms and legs + front and back as it twists wildly to spread the damage. Yes, doing 83 damage does shave off a considerable amount of armor for us to finish them off but that is a 50 ton mech, if there are 4 assaults you're barely scratching their paint.

And if you're up front in an assault you're going to die instantly as the enemy drill straight through your ct and you can't torso twist.

#43 Khobai

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 06:59 PM

Quote

They can also

carry 8 Tags, or


8 tags is way too much I only use 4

#44 OmniFail

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 07:02 PM

View Postjjm1, on 13 December 2017 - 06:46 PM, said:

"But is it fun to play against" - the rules of game design.


I do not want my enemies to have fun. But sometimes they do anyway no matter how hard I try.
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#45 davoodoo

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 08:32 PM

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Yes, let the anger come! Strike me down while you can! But it won't make your dried-up ovaries any more fertile! matchmaking any better!

Edited by davoodoo, 13 December 2017 - 08:36 PM.


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Posted 13 December 2017 - 08:45 PM

My atlas' will keep lrm spam alive and well until they get a lot more mobility or armor buffs to make up for the waist high hard points and lack of hard points due to power creep. My jenner2c can do a 60 laser vomit. My atlas hardly can do an 40 alpha.

#47 Bohxim

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Posted 13 December 2017 - 08:49 PM

Stop using assaults as your personal shield and a means to get easy shots when they're shooting them. There's hard cover and twisting.

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 01:44 AM

View PostJediPanther, on 13 December 2017 - 08:45 PM, said:

My atlas' will keep lrm spam alive and well until they get a lot more mobility or armor buffs to make up for the waist high hard points and lack of hard points due to power creep. My jenner2c can do a 60 laser vomit. My atlas hardly can do an 40 alpha.

After looking at every single Atlas chassis and coming up with the worst Alpha being 65.8 on the D and D-DC, I can only assume you are boating small lasers and machineguns. Decent Atlanti range from 60 to 80 damage for an Alpha Strike.

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 02:01 AM

View PostWolfways, on 13 December 2017 - 06:54 PM, said:

I'm one of them when I play my Raven. Unfortunately whenever I do play it there is always a lack of LRM's on my team Posted Image

Same. My 3L is set up to help LRM boats. So it rarely gets to see use.

#50 lazorbeamz

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 02:08 AM

lrm are very powerful

#51 Exard3k

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 02:17 AM

View Postlazorbeamz, on 14 December 2017 - 02:08 AM, said:

lrm are very powerful


But they killed LRMs...I read it on the forums.

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 02:22 AM

View Postlazorbeamz, on 14 December 2017 - 02:08 AM, said:

lrm are very powerful

Like a water pistol.

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 02:49 AM

View PostXetelian, on 13 December 2017 - 06:53 PM, said:

100 ton mechs have 100 CT armor that could be used to benefit the team but I always see this builds after 11 people have died and we're spectating the one that hid in the back the whole time and did very little damage.

I don't care if you do 1000 damage in your LRM 100 tonner, even if you did 83 damage to 12 people, you would be of more use if you were taking damage.

100 Armor, thats 1,5 alphas or two enemys firing together once at him ...

Now tell me how tanking 1,5 alphas would do more for a team then doing 1000 damage?

Edited by Kroete, 14 December 2017 - 02:50 AM.


#54 OmniFail

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 04:08 AM

Yeah Xetelian. Tell us all about your make believe armor sharing. Be awesome show us the math.

#55 Rushmoar

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 04:50 AM

View PostTroa Barton, on 13 December 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

Tell me more about how to properly play a game.

If you aren't using the race car in Monopoly you're a scrub and a detriment to the housing market!

Seriously, people can play the game how they please.

Yea I am going with this answer too. Let people play what they like, up to them to pick what works best for them not what works best for you.

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 07:34 AM

View PostCementi, on 13 December 2017 - 03:16 PM, said:

I have a pink Atlas with an XL engine PPC's (standard for the minimum range) and as many LRM's as I can cram on it (its the loyalty one).

I break it out to play when people I game with regularly ***** about the same thing the OP is bitching about. Just to make them twitch.


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#57 Mystere

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 07:37 AM

View PostDjPush, on 13 December 2017 - 03:30 PM, said:

Most of you didn't read past the title. Which doesn't surprise me in the least. Most of you didn't even read the title properly. Pretty ****** sad.


Oh! I did read the title and your post correctly. But even if I did not, my comment still holds. Posted Image

Edited by Mystere, 14 December 2017 - 07:38 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 07:45 AM

View PostMischiefSC, on 13 December 2017 - 04:56 PM, said:

God I would love to core that LRMAtlas out on the RT from behind with a Crit Lynx. If the game actually modeled ammo explosions completely you would see that from orbit.


Huh? There is no ammo on the RT. Please explain. Posted Image

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 08:15 AM

"Please hold locks!"




Spoiler


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Posted 14 December 2017 - 08:24 AM

View PostThoseWhoFearTomorrow, on 14 December 2017 - 08:15 AM, said:

"Please hold locks!"

Havent heard that for a long time.

Today i had a match on polar with my narc raven,
there was not a single lrm in my team. :(





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