Buff Atlas
#41
Posted 19 December 2017 - 03:59 PM
#42
Posted 19 December 2017 - 04:51 PM
FupDup, on 19 December 2017 - 03:45 PM, said:
Yeah, because the range increase was uselessly small and having that tiny bit of extra heat efficiency was worth more than having that tiny bit of extra range. Why bother?
#43
Posted 19 December 2017 - 06:08 PM
#44
Posted 19 December 2017 - 06:53 PM
#46
Posted 19 December 2017 - 07:36 PM
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that anology is extremely poor. because on the first modules, the extra range wasnt worth the extra heat. it sucked because the cost wasnt worth the reward.
but people already GLADLY spend tonnage to max out their armor. so why would you think people wouldnt spend more tonnage to increase their armor even more? people have already deemed paying tonnage to be worth more armor, because thats why mechs get maxed out on armor on the first place.
it makes no sense what youre saying
people already do it... youre saying they wouldnt do it, when they already do? derrrr logical infallacy, lmao
people would absolutely pay more tonnage for more armor if they could. especially on assault mechs that have tonnage to spare.
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Omnis can totally use Reflective if they have it stock, like the Wendigo. Not being able to customize your armor type does not equal "can't use it," otherwise you might argue that Omnis can't use FF since many don't have FF stock...
but the omnis that dont have it stock will be completely screwed.
if battlemechs got significant damage reduction to energy weapons but omnimechs didnt... it would render most omnis obsolete overnight
its a bad argument that makes no sense. adding the wendigo is not going to save all the other omnimechs lmao.
adding reflective armor for battlemechs and not allowing most omnimechs to use it, in a meta dominated by laser vomit, is as good as a death sentence for omnimechs. fact.
my way of doing it through the skill tree is a better way because every mech gets access to it then. not just battlemechs. and omnimechs arnt punished into obsoletion.
Edited by Khobai, 19 December 2017 - 07:54 PM.
#47
Posted 19 December 2017 - 07:50 PM
Khobai, on 19 December 2017 - 07:36 PM, said:
if battlemechs got significant damage reduction to energy weapons but omnimechs didnt... it would render most omnis obsolete overnight
its a bad argument that makes no sense. adding the wendigo is not going to save all the other omnimechs lmao.
adding reflective armor for battlemechs and not allowing most omnimechs to use it, in a meta dominated by laser vomit, is as good as a death sentence.
my way of doing it through the skill tree is a better way because every mech gets access to it then. not just battlemechs. and omnimechs arnt punished.
That's a meta problem, not an Omnimech or skill tree problem.
And I wouldn't call it "completely" screwed, the Omnis who use FF instead of Reflective armor get tonnage savings for more firepower and the ones with just Standard Armor get more critslots for spamming DHS and stuff.
#48
Posted 19 December 2017 - 07:56 PM
and another mech doesnt
the mech that doesnt is screwed
#50
Posted 19 December 2017 - 08:12 PM
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even if its only 20%, thats enough to make omnimechs obsolete
having 20% more hitpoints is huge in this game
if battlemechs get 20% resistance to laser vomit but omnimechs dont, why would you ever use omnimechs?
reflective armor is something that simply should not exist as long as omnimechs have locked equipment.
if you had suggested omnimechs get unlocked equipment that would at least be reasonable
but trying to suggest its okay to offer battlemechs massive damage reduction but not omnimechs is ridiculous
unless omnimechs get unlocked equipment im gonna have to say its better to do it through the skill tree so both battlemechs and omnimechs get equal treatment.
Edited by Khobai, 19 December 2017 - 08:16 PM.
#51
Posted 20 November 2020 - 06:03 AM
#52
Posted 20 November 2020 - 07:01 AM
#53
Posted 20 November 2020 - 07:05 AM
#54
Posted 20 November 2020 - 01:45 PM
#56
Posted 20 November 2020 - 04:01 PM
Edited by D A T A, 20 November 2020 - 04:01 PM.
#60
Posted 20 November 2020 - 06:35 PM
Lockheed_, on 20 November 2020 - 06:22 PM, said:
Do people suddenly form an opinion about something and then search the forums and see where they can dump it?
What's more worrying is how a 3 year old issue is still relevant today.
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