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[r4zen]

Khobai, on 29 December 2017 - 01:02 AM, said:

like I said they need to fix it by having separate buckets for pugs and premades

Sounds great in theory, a nightmare in practice. What's to stop units from syncdropping when there's no group queue matches to be found?

[Fox the Apprentice]

Dakota1000, on 29 December 2017 - 05:24 AM, said:

Its the other way around. The teams started mass ejecting rather than fighting, so what is the other team to do other than walk up to their spawns unopposed? Just sit and wait for them all to eject because they lost wave 1 fair and square? Only side in the wrong here is the one who joined a match they didn't intend to fight.


>three different people ganging up saying bandito was spawn camping them caused mass ejections.
Boy I sure do love mob mentality!

I'm not concerned with this one instance, I'm concerned with the overall FP experience.

It's irrelevant which came first this map - they got tired of being farmed (of which spawn camping is a big part) over the course of previous matches, and said they had enough.

[PFC Carsten]

El Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 08:16 AM, said:

You expect PGI to actually turn FP around with such amount of players? Good luck. We have been offering suggestions since 2014.

I expected this years ago when CW as it was then called was introduced. PGI saw what happened in Quickplay and yet, Unit guys cried rivers how they would not get matches if queues are split. That was the beginning of the problem. It drove many players away from CW. Then came Faction Play, Long Tom and everything was made worse. Now even most unit guys would only touch Faction Play, as it was renamed with a ten foot pole. Expect outside of bribesevents. I could go on how PGI cannibalizedbucketized population further with comp-mode and soon Solaris, but that won't lead to anything.

So no, I'm not expecting PGI to do anything. I'm long past that. PGI will throw a boneevent into the direction of FP every now and then, trying to fool unit whales into believing that the mode is still alive somehow so they keep buying mechpacks, funding Russ's whatever it is.

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Oh, I see you have activated some more of your unit to keep repeating phrases in order to white-knight the status quo. Well, good luck then and have fun in FP.

Edited by PFC Carsten, 29 December 2017 - 09:41 AM.

[El Bandito]

Dee Eight, on 29 December 2017 - 09:23 AM, said:

So what if they'd all simply mass disconnected and then gone to switfch their decks and joined another match instead? You'd all been able to farm your match scores (though no headshots without spread weapons or bot assistance)...they'd be playing someone else not out to ruin their experience. Would you be reporting them or starting this thread still ?

Of course I would be reporting them. I play FP to fight, not to shoot disconnected targets.

[El Bandito]

KingCobra, on 29 December 2017 - 09:15 AM, said:

And you can see by this fellows crying about him losing his rewards FP is dead organized teams have finally got what they wanted a dead game mode.

Except FP is not dead to us. (MS) still gets daily matches even without events, during NA prime time. Moreover, us organized teams are chiefly what's keeping FP alive. We keep FP running everyday during prime time, we give the other units actual opposition to fight against instead of ghost drops, or mass ejects, we help smaller units to drop with us for full team experience, we invite and train new players who are interested in organized FP.

What do organized teams get for all that effort? Scorns from those with no will to improve themselves yet want all the candies for free.

Edited by El Bandito, 29 December 2017 - 09:51 AM.

[Fae Puka]

All I can say, is well played the PUGS!

I've dropped in a few over the current event and where it's ended up PUG v PUG, there have been some surprisingly excellent games, plenty of fun, shared match scores and damage and pretty close results . . . it's what folk are looking for. For MS to call this unsportsmanlike, perhaps the clearer picture is that none of you thought to give up the numbers advantage with a couple of players exiting the game early (something I've seen 228 do in the past) to give the PUGS the incentive to try. Yes they lost, but it showed that the "elite" are not just their to farm - that is true sportsmanship.

We know the game mode is broken, we know some units are "win at all costs", we know that you love to brag about 48 - 6 wins; the only solution is sat in the player's laps at encouraging players to get better and not just reduce them to c-bill/xp cash cows.

[Mystere]

Dakota1000, on 29 December 2017 - 03:00 AM, said:

I wish the people who mass eject like this would just stay out of FP entirely. If you don't have even a little bit of fighting spirit in you where you just quit after a single wave then you have no business in the mode, go back to quickplay where you only have your one wave.

And its sad to see multiple people here applauding the actions of these quitters. Can we just go back to a forced requirement to at least be in a unit to get into FP. Maybe require that the unit have at least 2 players in it though you both don't have to drop at the same time. This would get rid of most of the bad pugs while leaving players who try to work as a team as the only population.

Honestly, can you all just let the people who enjoy FP just enjoy FP instead of constantly dropping in it uncoordinated and angry when you find anyone playing it the right way?

A unit of 1 is still fine by me. Requiring a unit of 2 just means I will smurf myself. <shrugs>

[TWIAFU]

r4zen, on 29 December 2017 - 09:35 AM, said:

Sounds great in theory, a nightmare in practice. What's to stop units from syncdropping when there's no group queue matches to be found?

One of his "solutions" to end sync dropping like that was people would be forced to quit units to drop in solo CW...

Units bad. Groups bad. VOIP bad. Teamwork bad.

[kapusta11]

Oh noes, seals don't want to be clubbed.

[SOL Ranger]

Are the fish jumping out of the barrel before you get to shoot them? That's so unfair!

[Dee Eight]

Dakota1000, on 29 December 2017 - 03:11 AM, said:

I'm more confused over why they'd join FP in the first place rather than QP if they're busy like that. I don't play FP unless I have a good amount of free time set out for the day.

bECAUSE...to get the free mech...you need 200 loot bag pulls...and only 50 were available as bonuses. Sun cobra pre-orders got 25, playing on the 27th for the holiday giveway got 25... only 100 are available for QP matches. Thus... you'll need at least another 50 via FP matches, which with 2 awarded per successful 250 score match, means another 25 matches. However if you DIDN'T pre-order the mech, you need another 13 FP matches. And again if you missed playing on the 27th...then you need to do all 50.

[Mystere]

Nema Nabojiv, on 29 December 2017 - 03:25 AM, said:

And another thing. Now if El Bandito's unit REALLY wanted to get a fight with another organized group, they would have contacted the guys from other units playing at the same time through their TS or messangers or what have you and syncdropped against each other. People been doing this for years in EVE:O if they want goodfights.

Saying 'we would be happy to play against another premade' while dropping in a 10 man group during event and not getting in touch with another group is a hypocricy. They knew they have a high chance to sealclub and they got their seals.

Synch dropping in CW is not 100% guaranteed. Using Eve is a terrible example given it's a single-shard universe. CW is implemented as a set of independent arena "matches" -- one of the biggest failures in CW's design.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Fox the Apprentice, on 29 December 2017 - 09:36 AM, said:

I'm not concerned with this one instance, I'm concerned with the overall FP experience.

It's irrelevant which came first this map - they got tired of being farmed (of which spawn camping is a big part) over the course of previous matches, and said they had enough.

Then play quickplay instead? That's the thing, they came to FP then just mass ejected. Why not just go to QP if that's the plan when things aren't going their way?

[TWIAFU]

Col Jaime Wolf, on 29 December 2017 - 09:46 AM, said:

comstar

na1.mech-connect.net

its open, its free and best of all there are tons of friendly people including assies! and drunken hijinks!,

you don't have to be good, you don't have to be a spartan warrior you just have to be willing to ask questions, follow orders as best you can and make the effort to bring the best game you can to help out your team. and please please understand it is so much more enjoyable to not only win, but to feel as tho you really had a part in that win and that you made a difference for your team.

or keep beating your head against the wall in a game mode that comes with a warning that it is entirely intended for team play.

Comstar is busy at ALL times of the day!

US and EU times!

Don't be afraid. Your Mother did not mean forever when she told you not to talk to strangers...

Stop in, scroll through the channels, stop in one and all you have to say is; " Hi, I'm so and so, have room?"

That is the hardest part...

[El Bandito]

Dee Eight, on 29 December 2017 - 09:49 AM, said:

bECAUSE...to get the free mech...you need 200 loot bag pulls...and only 50 were available as bonuses. Sun cobra pre-orders got 25, playing on the 27th for the holiday giveway got 25... only 100 are available for QP matches. Thus... you'll need at least another 50 via FP matches, which with 2 awarded per successful 250 score match, means another 25 matches. However if you DIDN'T pre-order the mech, you need another 13 FP matches. And again if you missed playing on the 27th...then you need to do all 50.

Except farming Scouting is much faster to do, with higher chance of success. So puggers really have no excuse.

[Dago Red]

SOL Ranger, on 29 December 2017 - 09:47 AM, said:

Are the fish jumping out of the barrel before you get to shoot them? That's so unfair!

I don't even agree with your apparent side of this but that is a damn funny quip and I salute it.

[Racerxintegra2k]

El Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 12:15 AM, said:

These chicken-livered snotfaces began to mass eject as soon as their first wave was crushed early in the match. In order to get our matchscores, our unit mates basically had to surround their drop zone and get some shots in before they eject out of all of their mechs, and lost a few to their dropship fire. Sure, they have their chicken-livered reasons for throwing the towel (hoping to get to the next drop fast and praying that (MS) wont be there), but it is still crappy sportsmanship. Only one of them offered any semblance of resistance (a guy named Bucket of Joy).




Naturally they were reported.

You all made match score and the match lasted 1/2 as long. They did everyone a favor by leaving an unwinnable and super frustrating situation.

[El Bandito]

Racerxintegra2k, on 29 December 2017 - 09:56 AM, said:

You all made match score and the match lasted 1/2 as long. They did everyone a favor by leaving an unwinnable and super frustrating situation.

Not the point. We queue in FP to fight, not to shoot at stationary targets. And such blatant violation of CoC should be reported.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Dee Eight, on 29 December 2017 - 09:49 AM, said:

bECAUSE...to get the free mech...you need 200 loot bag pulls...and only 50 were available as bonuses. Sun cobra pre-orders got 25, playing on the 27th for the holiday giveway got 25... only 100 are available for QP matches. Thus... you'll need at least another 50 via FP matches, which with 2 awarded per successful 250 score match, means another 25 matches. However if you DIDN'T pre-order the mech, you need another 13 FP matches. And again if you missed playing on the 27th...then you need to do all 50.

What, are they stupid or something? Its just a cbill mech that they could get right now. If they hate FP so much then they could just play 50 matches of quickplay instead and have money to buy the thing.

[Mystere]

TWIAFU, on 29 December 2017 - 09:46 AM, said:

One of his "solutions" to end sync dropping like that was people would be forced to quit units to drop in solo CW...

Units bad. Groups bad. VOIP bad. Teamwork bad.

Correction. One of his "solutions" is to turn CW into a solo-only mode. It's really insane ... or an agenda. <smh>

Edited by Mystere, 29 December 2017 - 10:03 AM.