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[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Nema Nabojiv, on 29 December 2017 - 04:57 AM, said:

Yesterday it took about five minutes to get a match so considering what I said before about the rewards, your argument is false.

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Nema Nabojiv, on 29 December 2017 - 04:57 AM, said:

my one example from yesterday involving the queues as they are now during a huge event means more than your example from when what I'm advocating for actually happened.

[The6thMessenger]

El Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 05:00 AM, said:

Premades such as hub groups are fine. They often offer us decent challenges. And coincidentally almost all of them are already in a unit. Cause they know how to actually progress in FP.

Sure. Of course, I agree.

But the way i see it, if want to be on the same buckets, that's what you're going to see, you're going to see [Redacted] like this till people are actually fighting people they have a chance, guys on their level, as opposed of just immenent roflstomps and spawn camps that are frustrating and aren't fun, and that is because we don't have separate buckets.

As sad as it is, that's the logical conclusion of what you want, you shouldn't complain.

Edited by draiocht, 29 December 2017 - 09:44 PM.
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[Nema Nabojiv]

Dakota1000, on 29 December 2017 - 05:10 AM, said:

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You totaly did not get what I told about the rewards and incentives for players to play FP. I wont even try to rephrase it again because if you didn't get it the first time you either dont want to or are mentally incapable to.

And no, its not one example. What I described was true for every FP event since July 2017 - there was and is enough people for pug or mostly-pug games.

[Fox the Apprentice]

Dakota1000, on 29 December 2017 - 04:53 AM, said:

Alternatively PGI just mans up and bans players who aren't even in a unit from participating from the endgame content all together so that match quality improves 100 fold and you all stop whining about being solos in the group queue with a victim complex.

Yes! IFF PGI never puts event rewards in FP ever again. Otherwise, the people that need that reward (read: not (MS) ) will find a way in, and not want to be spawn-camped by a team that only cares about the code of conduct when it's the OTHER team breaking it.

Don't spawn-camp. The mass ejections are a reaction to being spawn-camped. Both sides were in the wrong here.

[valrond]

El Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 03:54 AM, said:

I didn't write this thread to gain sympathy. I am simply exposing pathetic attitude of some players. And what sportsmanship you are referring to?

Yep, your attitude is pathetic. You don't even have the decency of letting them PLAY. You said yourself you surrounded the Drop Zone, you just killed them as they drop, no chance of doing ANYTHING. Why would they just stay there to be farmed?

You could have let them regroup and form a coordinated attack, but no, you didn't, and now you complain. It should be you and your Unit the one that gets reported.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Fox the Apprentice, on 29 December 2017 - 05:16 AM, said:

Don't spawn-camp. The mass ejections are a reaction to being spawn-camped. Both sides were in the wrong here.

Its the other way around. The teams started mass ejecting rather than fighting, so what is the other team to do other than walk up to their spawns unopposed? Just sit and wait for them all to eject because they lost wave 1 fair and square? Only side in the wrong here is the one who joined a match they didn't intend to fight.


>three different people ganging up saying bandito was spawn camping them caused mass ejections.
Boy I sure do love mob mentality!

Edited by Dakota1000, 29 December 2017 - 05:25 AM.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Nema Nabojiv, on 29 December 2017 - 05:16 AM, said:

You totaly did not get what I told about the rewards and incentives for players to play FP. I wont even try to rephrase it again because if you didn't get it the first time you either dont want to or are mentally incapable to.

And no, its not one example. What I described was true for every FP event since July 2017 - there was and is enough people for pug or mostly-pug games.

I got what you were saying about the rewards potentially bringing in more players to FP. What everyone here is telling you that *you* seem mentally incapable of understanding is that we tried split queue before and it didn't work out well due to PGI mismanagement and the whole lack of ideal situations. We are also advocating that split queue be reinstated if you read our posts before.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Just some commentary on FP for a moment. Its kinda sad that FP went from being grudge matches between units with lots of joking, banter, and fun to PUGs suiciding because they see a unit while trying to farm some stuff for some event.

[El Bandito]

Kroete, on 29 December 2017 - 05:23 AM, said:

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valrond, on 29 December 2017 - 05:18 AM, said:

Yep, your attitude is pathetic. You don't even have the decency of letting them PLAY. You said yourself you surrounded the Drop Zone, you just killed them as they drop, no chance of doing ANYTHING. Why would they just stay there to be farmed?

You could have let them regroup and form a coordinated attack, but no, you didn't, and now you complain. It should be you and your Unit the one that gets reported.

Sigh... why must you guys be so daft? We only went after them AFTER they started mass ejecting. Why should we simply stay idle and have them eject all of their mechs in cowardice?

Kroete, on 29 December 2017 - 05:29 AM, said:

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We did not break CoC by trying to get our matchscores against suiciding enemy. Our actions were completely just.

Nema Nabojiv, on 29 December 2017 - 05:27 AM, said:

But it was you who started this thread shaming those pugs. And you are MS, soooo....

So my fellow PUGs. You now know what to do if you got matched against premade and you really, really want to piss them off to the point they go and complain on forum.

Yes, go ahead, dear pugs, get reported and banned. Great idea!

Edited by draiocht, 30 December 2017 - 02:13 AM.
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[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Kroete, on 29 December 2017 - 05:29 AM, said:

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So just let them mass eject? Why? If they want to die so badly you might as well be a pal and help them out and boost your matchscore and payouts a bit higher while you're at it.

Edited by draiocht, 30 December 2017 - 02:12 AM.
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[naterist]

i raff in your general direction.


this is what happens when the "deep" part of the game is all about electonic penile stoking over an actually immersive experience. give any game like that a small amount of time, and it becomes the home of weebs who only care about their games, with no actual consideration for how people act and react to situations.

this is not your faction play forum safe space. here the unbridalded rage of the community is unleashed in reaction to years of ******** game design, and units whove capitalized on that stupid game design. there is no cure, only enjoying the chaos.

[PFC Carsten]

El Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 05:00 AM, said:

And coincidentally almost all of them are already in a unit. Cause they know how to actually progress in FP.

There is progress? Or do you mean farming faction rewards?

[El Bandito]

naterist, on 29 December 2017 - 05:38 AM, said:

i raff in your general direction.

this is what happens when the "deep" part of the game is all about electonic penile stoking over an actually immersive experience. give any game like that a small amount of time, and it becomes the home of weebs who only care about their games, with no actual consideration for how people act and react to situations.

this is not your faction play forum safe space. here the unbridalded rage of the community is unleashed in reaction to years of ******** game design, and units whove capitalized on that stupid game design. there is no cure, only enjoying the chaos.

All I am seeing here is the support of people who actually know how FP works, and childish rant of pugs who are clueless but quick to vent their ignorant frustrations against teams more organized than them.

PFC Carsten, on 29 December 2017 - 05:40 AM, said:

There is progress? Or do you mean farming faction rewards?

Of course there is personal progression. Me for example. Back in 2015 I was simple a IS pug with no unit tag. Instead of sitting on my thumbs complaining about getting repeatedly farmed by organized groups I instead resolved to "git gud", and joined Marik units. That's when I learned how to play FP mode, how to build optimum mech builds, how to get better at shooting and positioning, and how to call drops and wrangle pugs. By late 2016 I was confident enough in my skill to join (MS) during their recruitment drive, in order to further refine my play style. Under (MS), I improved every facet of my previous skills, eventually climbing up to become one of the best players of (MS), which is one of the better units, and certainly the most active one. Now that's called progression.

Edited by El Bandito, 29 December 2017 - 05:52 AM.

[naterist]

El Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 05:41 AM, said:

All I am seeing here is the support of people who actually know how FP works, and childish rant of pugs who are clueless but quick to vent their ignorant frustrations against teams more organized than them.

so youve gotten your pat on the back from all your friends. now what. solve all your problems did it? i seriously fail to understand the purpose of this thread. if they ejected then it means you got a free move on the slider for your faction. reque and do it again. what is all the constipation about?

[Nema Nabojiv]

El Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 05:41 AM, said:

All I am seeing here is the support of people who actually know how FP works, and childish rant of pugs who are clueless but quick to vent their ignorant frustrations against teams more organized than them.

Oh, and now we have a case of "our brave and noble soldiers vs. theirs band of dirty barbarians". Precious!

[El Bandito]

naterist, on 29 December 2017 - 05:44 AM, said:

so youve gotten your pat on the back from all your friends. now what. solve all your problems did it? i seriously fail to understand the purpose of this thread. if they ejected then it means you got a free move on the slider for your faction. reque and do it again. what is all the constipation about?

If you still do not get it then there is no use talking to you. Feel free to get off this thread.

Nema Nabojiv, on 29 December 2017 - 05:47 AM, said:

Oh, and now we have a case of "our brave and noble soldiers vs. theirs band of dirty barbarians". Precious!

Hey, if I see inferiority complex, I point it out. I make no excuses. And I tolerate no douchebaggery.

Edited by El Bandito, 29 December 2017 - 05:48 AM.

[naterist]

El Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 05:47 AM, said:

If you still do not get it then there is no use talking to you. Feel free to get off this thread.

no, if you still dont get it there is no use talking to you. you can feel free to leave meow.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

naterist, on 29 December 2017 - 05:44 AM, said:

so youve gotten your pat on the back from all your friends. now what. solve all your problems did it? i seriously fail to understand the purpose of this thread. if they ejected then it means you got a free move on the slider for your faction. reque and do it again. what is all the constipation about?

Its bad for that whole immersive gameplay that you are mad at PGI for not focusing on. What's more immersive than matching up against people of any skill or coordination level and trying your best to beat them? Definitely not matchmakers that only ever put you up against equal opponents and definitely not ejecting from 3 mechs in a row after losing with one.

Besides that its bad for the pay on both teams, and to be honest its just more sad than something to be mad over. People so unable to put up a little fight that they'd just go into a gamemode only to quit. It just sounds so lame.

[The6thMessenger]

El Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 05:41 AM, said:

All I am seeing here is the support of people who actually know how FP works, and childish rant of pugs who are clueless but quick to vent their ignorant frustrations against teams more organized than them.

And what does that leave us? Mass ejections, piss poor match qualities, dwindling playerbase that makes match finding even harder. Play the blame game or call them out doesn't help, doesn't change a thing.

Dakota1000, on 29 December 2017 - 05:49 AM, said:

Its bad for that whole immersive gameplay that you are mad at PGI for not focusing on. What's more immersive than matching up against people of any skill or coordination level and trying your best to beat them?

The one that certified pilots are also pitted with certified pilots.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 29 December 2017 - 05:51 AM.

[naterist]

The6thMessenger, on 29 December 2017 - 05:49 AM, said:

And what does that leave us? Mass ejections, piss poor match qualities, dwindling playerbase that makes match finding even harder. Play the blame game or call them out doesn't help, doesn't change a thing.



The one that certified pilots are also pitted with certified pilots.

praise jeebus, we have a convert to sanity.