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#121 Unnatural Growth

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:36 AM

And it's been a looonnnggg time since I played FP, but isn't spawn camping against the CoC?

Seriously, I don't remember.

Is it?

#122 El Bandito

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:36 AM

View PostOldOrgandonor, on 29 December 2017 - 06:36 AM, said:

And it's been a looonnnggg time since I played FP, but isn't spawn camping against the CoC?

Seriously, I don't remember.

Is it?


It. is. not. And (MS) do not spawn camp, unless our cowardly opponents hide in their spawns and do not come out--which equates to wasted time. Those fools in this particular match were even worse, cause they were ejecting.

Edited by El Bandito, 29 December 2017 - 06:39 AM.


#123 Heavenward

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:37 AM

While its against CoC, i can feel for them not wanting to get clubbed. its a shame but PUG's have no real place in FP as its one hell of an uphill struggle to face a disciplined team.

Unless I'm dropping in a premade group i wont touch FP. Nah i just wont touch it period it isnt worth the time and frustration

Edited by Heavenward, 29 December 2017 - 06:40 AM.


#124 Nema Nabojiv

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:39 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 06:31 AM, said:


Except the pugs' actions were bad enough to warrant reporting, since they broke CoC--how many times do I have to state this until some blockheads eventually get it?

Noone denies your right to report them. However, from ethical standpoint, half of the people in the thread dont see what they done as something bad, thats all.

And since any law is at its core, is a formalization of a socially acceptable behavior, and a lot of people seeing their behavior as acceptable, the law therefore, or in our case part of CoC turned out ot be obsolete and needs to be changed.

#125 naterist

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:41 AM

WHO

CARES

pgi will not take any action because pop is too low, and lowering it more is bad for their already depleted income (if you believe all those threads about whales up and leaving). so whats the point. report away, it will do you no good. whos was the last account that you saw that said banned- (insert here anything other than cheating). ******* never. and in the long run, it really has no effect on you. ya, you gotta reque to get a lootbag. you reque anyways dont you? plus you got a free win, which moves the slider just as much as any other kind of win. your literally might as well be screaming into an industrial fan for all the good this thread does you.

#126 Quandoo

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:43 AM

Overall game quality has dropped to a level that made me consider to quit this game.
If they don't fix matchmaking already, there is no point in playing this.

Every holliday they invite new players and match them against T1 - ruining the game for both !
The last few days I only saw 12-2 games etc. so boooooooooring.

Stop mixing ranks just to launch games after 10 secons. Rather I wait 3 minutes than having to play such boring matches all day.

Edited by Quandoo, 29 December 2017 - 06:46 AM.


#127 Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:45 AM

View PostNema Nabojiv, on 29 December 2017 - 06:39 AM, said:

Noone denies your right to report them. However, from ethical standpoint, half of the people in the thread dont see what they done as something bad, thats all.

And since any law is at its core, is a formalization of a socially acceptable behavior, and a lot of people seeing their behavior as acceptable, the law therefore, or in our case part of CoC turned out ot be obsolete and needs to be changed.


That's not really how laws ever work irl. Laws tend to not be based solely on what is morally right, as that's often entirely subjective. Instead its more often based on a general set of rules. If we had laws that changed based off what people thought was morally right we might just be back in the salem witch hunts.

View Postnaterist, on 29 December 2017 - 06:41 AM, said:

WHO

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pgi will not take any action because pop is too low, and lowering it more is bad for their already depleted income (if you believe all those threads about whales up and leaving). so whats the point. report away, it will do you no good. whos was the last account that you saw that said banned- (insert here anything other than cheating). ******* never. and in the long run, it really has no effect on you. ya, you gotta reque to get a lootbag. you reque anyways dont you? plus you got a free win, which moves the slider just as much as any other kind of win. your literally might as well be screaming into an industrial fan for all the good this thread does you.


They ban those teamkilling guys like daily. Reports are at least resulting in bans.

#128 naterist

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:46 AM

View PostDakota1000, on 29 December 2017 - 06:45 AM, said:


That's not really how laws ever work irl. Laws tend to not be based solely on what is morally right, as that's often entirely subjective. Instead its more often based on a general set of rules. If we had laws that changed based off what people thought was morally right we might just be back in the salem witch hunts.



They ban those teamkilling guys like daily. Reports are at least resulting in bans.


well way back in the day the rules were that you fought and died for your king, and you give him all your money to not pay his soldiers with. i wonder what changed that if not for morals.

Edited by naterist, 29 December 2017 - 06:46 AM.


#129 El Bandito

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:46 AM

View Postnaterist, on 29 December 2017 - 06:41 AM, said:

WHO

CARES

pgi will not take any action because pop is too low, and lowering it more is bad for their already depleted income (if you believe all those threads about whales up and leaving). so whats the point. report away, it will do you no good. whos was the last account that you saw that said banned- (insert here anything other than cheating). ******* never. and in the long run, it really has no effect on you. ya, you gotta reque to get a lootbag. you reque anyways dont you? plus you got a free win, which moves the slider just as much as any other kind of win. your literally might as well be screaming into an industrial fan for all the good this thread does you.


In that case, why bother replying? Your dozens of replies in this thread are equally pointless. See, I made this thread cause I wanted to make it. Nothing more, nothing less. I didn't ask for any change to be made.


View Postnaterist, on 29 December 2017 - 06:46 AM, said:

well way back in the day the rules were that you fought and died for your king, and you give him all your money to not pay his soldiers with. i wonder what changed that if not for morals.


Currently young men still die in a god forsaken place half-way around the world for pointless ideologies. The system is still there, our rulers simply changed titles. But we are veering off topic.

Edited by El Bandito, 29 December 2017 - 06:54 AM.


#130 naterist

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:47 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 06:46 AM, said:


In that case, why bother replying? Your dozens of replies in this thread are equally pointless. See, I made this thread cause I wanted to make it. Nothing more, nothing less. I didn't ask for any change to be made.


im having fun. and my drink isnt empty yet.

#131 Unnatural Growth

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:49 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 06:35 AM, said:



1. It will cost 30 minutes at least, cause you forgot to take account of queue time, and lobby wait time. You don't play FP, do you?

2. The pugs' actions were bad enough to warrant reporting, since they broke CoC--how many times do I have to state this until some blockheads eventually get it? Our action broke no rules, and was completely justified due to the enemy's cowardice.



You didn't read my first reply, did you?

No. I don't play FP. Wouldn't catch me dead in that sh*tshow. I have no idea what the wait times are these days (thankfully), but when I played FP, in a unit, (years ago) we often sat for 20-30 min straight in a lobby with no game. Sometimes we'd be lucky to get one match drop a night, and sometimes we wouldn't get any drops at all, before some or most of us would give up, have to go, real life stepped in, etc.

I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. If you read my first post, I agree with most of what you're opinion is. Right up until you guys decided to spawn camp. That's never going to be ok, if it's not against the CoC it should be. I don't know why it isn't, but I'll take your word for it not being a violation (just more example of the cess pool game mode I guess).

And I do think the other guys were dead wrong to eject out. I would have stayed and put up the fight with that other Bucket of Joy guy, and just taken the beating.

#132 naterist

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:49 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 06:46 AM, said:


Currently young men still die in a god forsaken place half-way around the world. The system is still there, our rulers simply changed titles. But we are veering off topic.


a) damn, nihilistic much?

b)there isnt a topic to this thread. way i see it, its just non stop whining.

#133 naterist

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:54 AM

this thread in a nutshell



#134 Nema Nabojiv

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:55 AM

View PostDakota1000, on 29 December 2017 - 06:45 AM, said:

That's not really how laws ever work irl. Laws tend to not be based solely on what is morally right, as that's often entirely subjective. Instead its more often based on a general set of rules. If we had laws that changed based off what people thought was morally right we might just be back in the salem witch hunts.

Well, I think the change in what people deem right is the exact reason why we don't have witch hunts anymore.

#135 El Bandito

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 06:56 AM

View Postnaterist, on 29 December 2017 - 06:49 AM, said:

there isnt a topic to this thread. way i see it, its just non stop whining.


Now you are just trolling. I see no reason to further reply to you.

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 07:06 AM

Since when if ever has FP been Sport?

I wonder that there are still People playing this gamemode...

...if they would have Milestones for the Underdogs like "most incoming damage" or "shot by most enemy Mechs" etc. for the Underdog-Leaderbord with reasonable Prizes there would MAYBE a Playerbase that would go into Underdog battles not having the desperate feeling to be simply feed to the meatgrinder martyrdom for OTHER PEOPLES fun and income wasting precious lifetime gathering bad mood leaving them the only to fight back - to not play the game!

Edited by Thorqemada, 29 December 2017 - 07:07 AM.


#137 PFC Carsten

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 07:07 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 06:23 AM, said:


I am not looking to change things. I am just calling out bad behavior.

That's the problem.

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 07:07 AM

View PostEl Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 05:02 AM, said:


*FACEPALM* What were we suppose to do? Just wait on our side until they finished ejecting all of their mechs, thus missing out our match scores? Cause that would be idiotic.


You're supposed to ******* complain to PGI not swigging beers taking it easy and sealclubbing some poor pugs

The real trouble is that big units/most FW players don't really want a competitive environment, they'd much rather club seals and get their jollies that way.

#139 Dr Hobo

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 07:11 AM

After reading the OP.

I play FW,rarely now,it's not fun,it's a slog solo. I still fight to the end(only eject when I'm a stick). But I can see both sides of the coin.

Idon't know why PGI is intent on keeping FW on life support. At this point,it does nothing. It's not fun,it's not engaging,it serves no purpose and isn't endgame. They dropped the ball and pulled a kurt cobain with it.

The horse is beaten,it doesn't need to be beat more I think.

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 07:16 AM

FP is a failed gamemode. It needs to be rebuilt. But PGI has shown no interest in developing or exploiting the potential. They just ram stuff in and hope it works. Which leads us to the situation here. They shouldn't have ejected, but I can fully understand why they did. These events that force people to play FP for the rewards, along with a requirement that they do well and win or do really really well on a loss are just going to make events like this more common.

I can't wait for Solaris.



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